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It would make no sense in the world to hold onto Middlebrooks and watch him play twice a week. The guy either needs to play or be dealt. If Drew falls back in your lap, you deal Middlebrooks for something else of use
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Peavy's a stiff? News to me. Otherwise spot on post Spudboy.

 

What SoxSport and some others seem to be conveniently forgetting and besides what Palodios just mentioned (which is very accurate mind you) is that this team just lost a lost of offensive talent. Bringing back Drew would help them maximize their offense, not the other way around. WMB would get enough AB's anyway. If he's hitting, he will fit into the lineup. In the meantime, by signing Drew, you increase your offensive depth and protect your team against injury.

 

SoxSport's position seems to be based a lot more on a dislike for Boras than what's logically beneficial for the team, and that's just not very smart.

Yeah, you have Drew play 2/3rd of the time at SS, WMB 2/3rd at 3rd and Xander playing 1/3rd at each.
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I'd take him back gladly. Whatever you think of Bogaerts, he's a couple years away from unleashing his true potential and I'm fully convinced that Drew has more than he showed us last year.

 

Sorry Dojii, but that is not going to wash. Instead of being a couple of years away from unleashing "his true potential" both he and WMB could get stale from a lack of playing time, or worse, being on that damn Pawtucket shuttle going "for more damn seasoning". We help up Youkilis for two years with that mind set when Millar was fading badly and Kevin never got into the starting lineup until he was 27. I don't want that with either WM or XB. Let them play and develop. We are defending World Series Champions and both Cherington and Farrell have a barrel of good will to play on. This season is the perfect time to turn the page and get these guys the development and experience they need. Remember, this is only the first of seven years in this decade and if the young guys perform and improve we will be perennial WS contenders for the rest of the decade. Let Drew go wherever he can land a parachute contract.

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Peavy's a stiff? News to me. Otherwise spot on post Spudboy.

 

What SoxSport and some others seem to be conveniently forgetting and besides what Palodios just mentioned (which is very accurate mind you) is that this team just lost a lost of offensive talent. Bringing back Drew would help them maximize their offense, not the other way around. WMB would get enough AB's anyway. If he's hitting, he will fit into the lineup. In the meantime, by signing Drew, you increase your offensive depth and protect your team against injury.

 

SoxSport's position seems to be based a lot more on a dislike for Boras than what's logically beneficial for the team, and that's just not very smart.

 

Maximize their offense...how? Drew can't hit lefties worth s*** (196 last year) and he will NOT be platooned by Farrell no matter what anyone here thinks. We would get much more offensive bang if we just let WMB and X play and develop. We don't need Drew. From all reports Herrera would be a good utility man for us because he can play all three infield positions (save 1B) and is a decent hitter. Let Drew get his money somewhere else.

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Maximize their offense...how? Drew can't hit lefties worth s*** (196 last year) and he will NOT be platooned by Farrell no matter what anyone here thinks. We would get much more offensive bang if we just let WMB and X play and develop. We don't need Drew. From all reports Herrera would be a good utility man for us because he can play all three infield positions (save 1B) and is a decent hitter. Let Drew get his money somewhere else.

 

Drew can hit righties very well, and is excellent defensively. Who says he won't be platooned by Farrell? Are you in Farrell's head? You're clearly making this up. By all accounts the Red Sox should be more than able to play them however they see fit once the roster is completed. Stop making these unsupported assumptions.

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It would make no sense in the world to hold onto Middlebrooks and watch him play twice a week. The guy either needs to play or be dealt. If Drew falls back in your lap, you deal Middlebrooks for something else of use

 

Screw Drew. That's exactly the reason why they should avoid him. Drew is another overrated Boras client. Even the Yankees don't want him. :)

 

Drew isn't falling back on their lap. He's a free agent. Just say no and wait for the draft choice.

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Maximize their offense...how? Drew can't hit lefties worth s*** (196 last year) and he will NOT be platooned by Farrell no matter what anyone here thinks. We would get much more offensive bang if we just let WMB and X play and develop. We don't need Drew. From all reports Herrera would be a good utility man for us because he can play all three infield positions (save 1B) and is a decent hitter. Let Drew get his money somewhere else.

 

I suspect Farrell is the only voice for Drew in the organization. The FO went out and got Herrera, which tells you something about their priorities--a guy who can play multi positions and is not an embarrassment with the bat. I doubt there's a roster spot for both.

 

Drew had his place last year, but the Red Sox have outgrown their need for him. He has 'average' at best written all over him. In his contract year last year, it figured he'd put out more down the stretch. Fortunately for the Sox.

 

I have never liked either Drew. JD screwed the Phillies, and is forever hated there. He was paid $14 million a year in Boston for playing 2/3 of every season. Had some good moments, but they were few and far between. Both Drews have talent, but they are underachievers. JD was the better hitter--when he was healthy.

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If Drew can be signed, it makes absolutely no sense not to sign him. What is wrong with depth at any time, but especially when both Middlebrooks and Bogaerts are unproven??? Ideally, Bogearts plays third and Drew plays short versus most right handers. Then, Bogaerts moves to short and Middlebrooks mans third against lefties.

 

Middlebrooks has not proven he can be a consistent regular, and the sample size is too small on Bogaerts. Drew is a perfect place holder. The youngsters can be worked in gradually.

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If Drew can be signed, it makes absolutely no sense not to sign him. What is wrong with depth at any time, but especially when both Middlebrooks and Bogaerts are unproven??? Ideally, Bogearts plays third and Drew plays short versus most right handers. Then, Bogaerts moves to short and Middlebrooks mans third against lefties.

 

Middlebrooks has not proven he can be a consistent regular, and the sample size is too small on Bogaerts. Drew is a perfect place holder. The youngsters can be worked in gradually.

 

That's because what you just stated above is common sense, and some posters here have declared war on common sense.

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I suspect Farrell is the only voice for Drew in the organization. The FO went out and got Herrera, which tells you something about their priorities--a guy who can play multi positions and is not an embarrassment with the bat. I doubt there's a roster spot for both.

 

Drew had his place last year, but the Red Sox have outgrown their need for him. He has 'average' at best written all over him. In his contract year last year, it figured he'd put out more down the stretch. Fortunately for the Sox.

 

I have never liked either Drew. JD screwed the Phillies, and is forever hated there. He was paid $14 million a year in Boston for playing 2/3 of every season. Had some good moments, but they were few and far between. Both Drews have talent, but they are underachievers. JD was the better hitter--when he was healthy.

 

There's enough nonsense in this post to make a Jose Canseco Tweet look like Nobel Literature prize material.

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Drew can hit righties very well, and is excellent defensively. Who says he won't be platooned by Farrell? Are you in Farrell's head? You're clearly making this up. By all accounts the Red Sox should be more than able to play them however they see fit once the roster is completed. Stop making these unsupported assumptions.

 

Why don't you read a damn paper once in awhile bub!! Farrell himself said if he had Drew he would not platoon him. Get off your duff and look it up. As for Drew's hitting righties VERY well????? Sure, just like in the World Series. I knew it was a mistake to take you off ignore; won't make that mistake again because I don't like dealing with a know-it-all clown.

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And they will essentially be able to sign for a one-year deal at reasonable money. What's not to like?

 

Oh, i know, it's that FARRELL HAS A LOVE AFFAIR WITH HIM AND HE SUCKS AND HE'S JUST LIKE VARITEK EVEN THOUGH HE'S STILL YOUNG AND IS A COMING OFF A GOOD SEASON EVEN THOUGH HE HAD A CONCUSSION BUT HE STILL SUCKS BECAUSE I HAVE AN IRRATIONAL HATE FOR HIM BECAUSE HIS LAST NAME IS DREW AND BECAUSE I THINK I KNOW WHAT FARRELL IS THINKING EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AND I LIKE TO WRITE IN CAPS AND SOUND REALLY PISSED ABOUT DUMB/IRRATIONAL THINGS ALL THE TIME EVEN THOUGH 99% OF THE TIME I END UP BEING PROVEN WRONG. /fred.

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Drew is falling back into the sox lap because nobody wants to give up the pick. Therefore the sox are the only team that doesn't have to give up a 1st rounder to sign him.

 

By that logic, if the Sox don't get him, the Yankees will. There will come to be a point where Drew will simply take whatever he get. If the Yankees could get him for long term with low value ie 3/15, that third round pick would be well worth it.

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There's enough nonsense in this post to make a Jose Canseco Tweet look like Nobel Literature prize material.

 

You're right...SoxSport loads so much nonsense into some of his posts that he makes it an overwhelming task to even respond.

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On another note, Bryce Brentz hit 17 HR in 82 games in AAA last year. 30-35 HR power in the minors, despite shooting himself in the foot. Maybe the Red Sox see him as a serious RF option if things go bad in the outfield.
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On another note, Bryce Brentz hit 17 HR in 82 games in AAA last year. 30-35 HR power in the minors, despite shooting himself in the foot. Maybe the Red Sox see him as a serious RF option if things go bad in the outfield.

 

He has worse holes in his swing than Josh Reddick had and they couldn't get rid of reddick fast enough

 

People need to get over the idea that power cures all ills. It doesn't. Not in this organization.

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He has worse holes in his swing than Josh Reddick had and they couldn't get rid of reddick fast enough

 

People need to get over the idea that power cures all ills. It doesn't. Not in this organization.

 

If an outfielder gets hurt, he's the next on the depth chart for RF.

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If an outfielder gets hurt, he's the next on the depth chart for RF.

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which is terrifying

 

And actually it might very well be Alex Hassan instead

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which is terrifying

 

And actually it might very well be Alex Hassan instead

 

Hassan is worse defensively than Nava. That'd be horrible.

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You guys remember that media jerkoff who said on the air during a game Schilling faked his bloody sock? That SOB still has his job broadcasting games. Schilling's eligibility for the HOF is now being discussed on the tweets, and would you believe the fake bloody sock fantasy is alive and kicking? Unbelievable. Concocted by the Yankee lovers at CBS and assorted Red Sox haters.
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which is terrifying

 

And actually it might very well be Alex Hassan instead

 

Well you were suggesting Darnell McDonald for a second go-round the other day and if that isn't terrifying, nothing is. Besides Brentz does have power and I hear he has a good arm in the outfield. You're right that power isn't everything but in certain positions it's good to have a guy with it out there.

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Why don't you read a damn paper once in awhile bub!! Farrell himself said if he had Drew he would not platoon him. Get off your duff and look it up. As for Drew's hitting righties VERY well????? Sure, just like in the World Series. I knew it was a mistake to take you off ignore; won't make that mistake again because I don't like dealing with a know-it-all clown.
Fred, just a point of clarification. Clowns are funny and likeable. He is not a clown. ;) A point of advice-- once you have someone on ignore never take him off. You are not missing anything except the aggravation that drove you to using the ignore feature.
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Fred, just a point of clarification. Clowns are funny and likeable. He is not a clown. ;) A point of advice-- once you have someone on ignore never take him off. You are not missing anything except the aggravation that drove you to using the ignore feature.

 

Gotcha Ted. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me......as the saying goes. Now my questions are....1, are we going to sign Drew, and, 2, are we really going to trade a starting pitcher? You know how I feel about the first one,, but I think trading a starter could be very dangerous. We've seen in the past how quickly injuries can decimate a rotation.

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Fred, just a point of clarification. Clowns are funny and likeable. He is not a clown. ;) A point of advice-- once you have someone on ignore never take him off. You are not missing anything except the aggravation that drove you to using the ignore feature.
I can see signing Drew, because WMB has had inconsistency at the plate. Also, Bogaerts could hit some bumps in the road. I agree with you on the other issue. I don't like trading pitchers, unless we can get someone for Dumpster.
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@PeteAbe: #Orioles announce they have signed OF Quintin Berry, who ended last season with the #RedSox. Berry received a minor league contract

 

Nooooooooo! Season over...

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Gotcha Ted. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me......as the saying goes. Now my questions are....1, are we going to sign Drew, and, 2, are we really going to trade a starting pitcher? You know how I feel about the first one,, but I think trading a starter could be very dangerous. We've seen in the past how quickly injuries can decimate a rotation.
If we do trade for a pitcher I think it should be a package deal for another good or great pitcher. Or even just add another experienced mlb starter. With our somewhat depleted offense, itll be more imperative for us to have strong pitching. Besides Lester and Bucholtz we have aging veterans and unproven minor leaguers. Theres alot of question marks their and I thing Farrells and Cheringtons intention is to bring along the newbies while still staying strong.
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If we do trade for a pitcher I think it should be a package deal for another good or great pitcher. Or even just add another experienced mlb starter. With our somewhat depleted offense, itll be more imperative for us to have strong pitching. Besides Lester and Bucholtz we have aging veterans and unproven minor leaguers. Theres alot of question marks their and I thing Farrells and Cheringtons intention is to bring along the newbies while still staying strong.

 

Give me the Lester of the second part of the 2013 season, Buccholz' first half and a healthy full season, Lackey g etting more run support and still pitching well and Doubrant finally living up to his promise and coming to ST in good shape and we're ok in the starting pitching department, and I don't think anyone should dismiss Pevey either. Health is the key there and it is clear you win with starting pitching. Yes, the hitting might be weaker but I think Pedroia will be fully recovered from that finger injury and shoud hit better and I expect a big year from Napoli and Papi. That is why I keep insisting that we must keep Middlebrooks in the lineup. I think he is due for a pretty productive season and I have full confidence in Bogaerts coming through for us. With the same can-do determination we saw last season we have as good a chance to win the AL East as any team in the division. From there we know what could happen.

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Give me the Lester of the second part of the 2013 season, Buccholz' first half and a healthy full season, Lackey g etting more run support and still pitching well and Doubrant finally living up to his promise and coming to ST in good shape and we're ok in the starting pitching department, and I don't think anyone should dismiss Pevey either. Health is the key there and it is clear you win with starting pitching. Yes, the hitting might be weaker but I think Pedroia will be fully recovered from that finger injury and shoud hit better and I expect a big year from Napoli and Papi. That is why I keep insisting that we must keep Middlebrooks in the lineup. I think he is due for a pretty productive season and I have full confidence in Bogaerts coming through for us. With the same can-do determination we saw last season we have as good a chance to win the AL East as any team in the division. From there we know what could happen.

 

Uh, if you get that out of your starters, you're gunning for 110 wins. Let's be a little realistic here.

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