Treading Water in August?

[a700hitter]

And besides, you invest entirely too much stock in a 10-12 game span.

 

Remember when you were saying "Don't count the Jays out" because they won like 12 in a row? Same exact situation.

LOL!! That streak did not make me think the Jays would threaten for the Division. I don't know why people think that. I said that I thought they would have a say in the Division -- as a spoiler if nothing else. I still think that they can play that role much the same way the O's did a few years in a row.

 

BTW, I am not the one that threw in the towel on them and dropped my signature after one game.

[Bellhorn04]

The Yankees are pretty much a lock to win the next 2 vs. the Jays. If they lose either one I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[SoxFanForsyth]

LOL!! That streak did not make me think the Jays would threaten for the Division. I don't know why people think that. I said that I thought they would have a say in the Division -- as a spoiler if nothing else. I still think that they can play that role much the same way the O's did a few years in a row.

 

BTW, I am not the one that threw in the towel on them and dropped my signature after one game.

 

Hey. Sometimes I get emotional.

 

Funny how the whole board was trying to calm me down after that loss, and now I'm trying to calm down the whole board.

[jung]

Using Workman on Monday night was a very bad move and contributed to painting Farrell in the box he was in last night.

 

Not saying the Yankees will come back...just saying it is not the same as the Toronto situation from earlier in the year.The team situations are not the same and the time of year is entirely different. I will say it again...nothing early in the year compares to coming down the stretch at crunch time. Not the same thing at all.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The Yankees are pretty much a lock to win the next 2 vs. the Jays. If they lose either one I'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

Warren vs Dickey and Pettitte vs Happ?

 

I can definitely see the Blue Jays winning both of those, or at the very least splitting.

[Bellhorn04]

Warren vs Dickey and Pettitte vs Happ?

 

I can definitely see the Blue Jays winning both of those, or at the very least splitting.

 

Dickey is going to get pummelled. Balls will be flying into the short porch.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Dickey is going to get pummelled. Balls will be flying into the short porch.

 

Never know with knucklers. He's been pretty good lately though. 2.60 ERA in his last 4 starts, averaging 7 IP/outing.

[Bellhorn04]

Hey. Sometimes I get emotional.

 

Funny how the whole board was trying to calm me down after that loss, and now I'm trying to calm down the whole board.

 

Yeah, because you're the bipolar one.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yeah, because you're the bipolar one.

 

I try to stay even keeled but sometimes I can't take it.

[a700hitter]

I didn't mention Kuroda because I was mentioning how often they have to run out bad pitchers.

 

Great. They run out Kuroda every 5 games. That's 20% of their games. With 37 games left, he'll start 7-8 more games. That leaves 30 starts left to Pettite, CC, Hughes, and Nova. You could argue that Nova has been good too, which is why I left him off, but still that leaves 22-24 starts between that gruesome trio of starters.

 

Not exactly inspiring.

Neither is Dempster or Dubront. Lester has been on a good run, but he has been very inconsistent over the course of the season. Our 3 are marginally better than those 3.

[Thunder]

Neither is Dempster or Dubront. Lester has been on a good run, but he has been very inconsistent over the course of the season. Our 3 are marginally better than those 3.

 

This is why we need Buchholz back. When he comes back the top 3 of our rotation will be pretty solid. If Lester's next start is even half as good as Monday's, it will be a sign that he is starting to turn things around. Peavy has been pretty good so far, but hasn't really gotten run support, at least in his last two starts. I think Buchholz's return will improve the morale of not just the pitching staff, but the whole team. They know that if they get some runs and play good defense, they are almost guaranteed to win with their dominant ace on the hill.

 

On a side note, Buchholz has been out since game 2 of the DH on June 8th, the last game I was at.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Neither is Dempster or Dubront. Lester has been on a good run, but he has been very inconsistent over the course of the season. Our 3 are marginally better than those 3.

 

When Buchholz comes back on around 9/6 or 9/7, that's where there's going to be a big discrepancy.

 

And regardless, Lester Doubront and Dempster are light years better than Pettitte Hughes and CC. Hughes and CC have ERA's approaching 5. Lester and Doubront are sitting around 4. Dempster is about the same as Pettitte.

[Bellhorn04]

The starting pitching performances are crapshoots. Hughes has pitched 2 decent games in a row. He's not incapable of a good streak. Nor is Pettitte.

 

The Yankees bullpen seems a lot better than ours. Ours is rapidly emerging as a potential killer. Especially with Farrell making bad decisions like using Workman on Monday.

[a700hitter]

Everyone (including myself) is overreacting to a tough stretch. That's all this is, a tough stretch. The Sox have gone on a few of these this year. May was bad (.500) too.

 

The good thing is that this team is able to turn the page quickly and rebound. They'll come out tonight, pound the baseball, Doubront will throw a good game, and they'll take this series and go to LA on a good note. They'll have Lackey Lester Peavy throwing in LA against Nolasco Ryu Capuano, so I like the matchups there too.

 

Then we have 18 of the following 30 games at home, where the Sox play .635 baseball.

 

Buchholz will probably get back around 9/5, but I think the Sox will push off his 1st start back to 9/7 so that he can face NYY - TB - NYY in those back to back to back series.

I am not over reacting at all, but I am cognizant of the fact that they are at a cross roads right now. They added Peavy. He will help. Getting Buch back will be huge and it should stem the bleeding if he returns to form. They could very well go on a run. If Buch doesn't help anchor our staff down the stretch, the wheels could come off this bus. Only time will tell if this is a speed bump, a blown tire or whether the wheels are coming off. I remain hopeful. This team is resilient and has come up big when they have been on the downturn.

[a700hitter]

When Buchholz comes back on around 9/6 or 9/7, that's where there's going to be a big discrepancy.

 

And regardless, Lester Doubront and Dempster are light years better than Pettitte Hughes and CC. Hughes and CC have ERA's approaching 5. Lester and Doubront are sitting around 4. Dempster is about the same as Pettitte.

I am not seeing the big advantage to us when comparing those 3. When Buch comes back, he will matchup with Kuroda. Until then, their rotation has the advantage.

[Thunder]

The starting pitching performances are crapshoots. Hughes has pitched 2 decent games in a row. He's not incapable of a good streak. Nor is Pettitte.

 

The Yankees bullpen seems a lot better than ours. Ours is rapidly emerging as a potential killer. Especially with Farrell making bad decisions like using Workman on Monday.

 

Taz and Koji are still our best bets with the game on the line. Besides Mo, who hasn't been that reliable, the Yankees don't have anyone reliable in to pitch 8th/9th. Workman is decent, but you are right. We just have too many injuries. The Yankees pen is where they have the least injuries.

[Orange Juiced]

I am not over reacting at all, but I am cognizant of the fact that they are at a cross roads right now. They added Peavy. He will help. Getting Buch back will be huge and it should stem the bleeding if he returns to form. They could very well go on a run. If Buch doesn't help anchor our staff down the stretch, the wheels could come off this bus. Only time will tell if this is a speed bump, a blown tire or whether the wheels are coming off. I remain hopeful. This team is resilient and has come up big when they have been on the downturn.

 

This team absolutely has the chops to go on a big run. They have very good starting pitching, and will get an ace (or an ace quality...he might not be an ace due to his injury history) back in the rotation when Buchholz returns. And I think Bogaerts will adjust to major-league pitching and be a helpful factor down the stretch.

 

I also think they'll avoid a long losing streak. Still haven't lost more than 3 in a row. But they do need to right the ship and get momentum moving forward again.

 

It's gonna be a very fun last 6 weeks of the season.

[a700hitter]

Taz and Koji are still our best bets with the game on the line. Besides Mo, who hasn't been that reliable, the Yankees don't have anyone reliable in to pitch 8th/9th. Workman is decent, but you are right. We just have too many injuries. The Yankees pen is where they have the least injuries.

Robertson is pretty good.

[Thunder]

Robertson is pretty good.

 

True.

Logan is a pretty good lefty killer. Joba has been inconsistent. Overall, I give their pen a B+, and our current pen a B.

[a700hitter]

Clairborne and Logan have been good too.

[jung]

We seem to be assuming and even banking on Buch coming back as he was when he went down. I think that is the least likely of events. He will surely improve the rotation. I do think chances are pretty slim that he comes back for the 2013.5 season as he was when he left the 2013 season.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I hope the O's season is on the line during the last series. So we can get payback and ruin their chance at the playoffs. 2011 still hurts.

[Bellhorn04]

Here's another potentially ugly development: the Yankees are reportedly talking to the Twins about Morneau.

 

Morneau has been hot recently. And his numbers at YS are ridiculously good. 433/507/883 in YS3.

 

Morneau could be a great fit for us but there's no indication we're interested.

 

We might be watching and weeping on this one.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Here's another potentially ugly development: the Yankees are reportedly talking to the Twins about Morneau.

 

Morneau has been hot recently. And his numbers at YS are ridiculously good. 433/507/883 in YS3.

 

Morneau could be a great fit for us but there's no indication we're interested.

 

We might be watching and weeping on this one.

 

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1h

For tweeps who have asked: The Yankees are not discussing a possible deal for Justin Morneau.

[SoxFanForsyth]

RSFFL make the GT.

[Bellhorn04]

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN 1h

For tweeps who have asked: The Yankees are not discussing a possible deal for Justin Morneau.

 

Now I'm definitely expecting it to happen.

[Bellhorn04]

Morneau also has a very attractive career .993 OPS at Fenway. Any reason we shouldn't be interested in him?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I'll make it, but I'm at work. I'm on my break now so I'll make it real quick before going back.

[mvp 78]

If they take care of business against the Rays, O's and Yanks, they'll be fine. It's going to be really close though.

 

I predicted they'd win 87 games this year. All I wanted was for them to be relevant in September. It looks like I'll be more than happy with this year's result. I didn't expect the playoffs, so any October games are gravy to me.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Morneau also has a very attractive career .993 OPS at Fenway. Any reason we shouldn't be interested in him?

 

Why? Napoli had a career 1.200 OPS at Fenway before we signed him.

 

I'd rather just have Carp than to have to give up the prospects for Morneau. Besides, we don't need more LHH. We need RHH.