8/20 Sox @ The SF Not Matt Cains

[RedSoxNC84]

Son of a bitch I thought I could grab some more mojo tonight. Had some pretty good stuff cooked up for tomorrow's gamethread. Oh well

[jung]

What is next Farrell? Are we going to start games with our relief pitchers so we can save our starters for the later innings? This is seriously getting ridiculous with him. Ya' gotta put yourself in position to win the game and you have to use the best you have to get there and THEN hope somebody pitches or plays over his head to preserve your win. You can't put some dick head out there with the game on the line, saving your best if the dick head survives. Stupid ....ass backwards ********!

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

f*** the Red Sox. Thanks for losing a game you should have had in the bag. I'm so f***ing sick of this s***, this team disgust me. Nothing cones easy with these guys huh? Whatever man, and thanks Farrell for being such a dumbass.

[RedSoxNC84]

Yeah it is getting pretty frustrating. This team had no problem winning games not that long ago, now it seems almost every game is a struggle now, with the exception of a couple easily won games.

[Beaneater]

Also hope we have a 4-5 run lead in the 9th and we can see what Brayan Villareal has to offer. Guy pumps absolute gas, but he also is pretty wild.

 

Last year, though, he was outstanding for the Tigers, posting a 2.63 ERA. The more you think about it, the more you realize that dishing Iglesias for Peavy and a sub-3.00 ERA that throws 98+ was an outstanding deal

 

Did anyone bump this yet? SFF hit the nail on the head, except for the 4-5 run lead part.

[Navafan29]

I like Farrel :l

[SoxFanForsyth]

Bad loss last night. Entirely too many missed opportunities at the plate. Though I often hear players say it's the 2nd game where the fatigue gets you after a late night followed by a long road trip.

 

Really need to start putting this crap together.

 

Are the Red Sox going to make the playoffs? Yes. As bad as they've been playing lately, they've still got a 5 game lead in the WC over the Guardians and a 5.5 game lead over the Orioles. There's no way that the Guardians or Orioles are 5 games better than the Red Sox over 35 games.

 

Plain and simple: The Red Sox and Rays are both making the playoffs. We've got a 34 game season left to see who wins the AL East.

 

Put this absolute garbage play behind you. Come out today. Destroy Zito and go take 2/3 from the Dodgers. Just win series. Don't have to win every game, just win series.

[Palodios]

Bad loss last night. Entirely too many missed opportunities at the plate. Though I often hear players say it's the 2nd game where the fatigue gets you after a late night followed by a long road trip.

 

Really need to start putting this crap together.

 

Are the Red Sox going to make the playoffs? Yes. As bad as they've been playing lately, they've still got a 5 game lead in the WC over the Guardians and a 5.5 game lead over the Orioles. There's no way that the Guardians or Orioles are 5 games better than the Red Sox over 35 games.

 

Plain and simple: The Red Sox and Rays are both making the playoffs. We've got a 34 game season left to see who wins the AL East.

 

Put this absolute garbage play behind you. Come out today. Destroy Zito and go take 2/3 from the Dodgers. Just win series. Don't have to win every game, just win series.

 

The Sox have 9 more games against the Orioles, so it isn't exactly going to be hard to lose grip on the season. If they continue having 10-15 LOB in one or two run games, they're not going anywhere. This team's ability to produce with men on has been so abysmal that they're not going win anything unless they turn that around.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I will say this, though. This team hasn't won 2 games in a row since playing the Astros 8/6-8/7.

 

Sound familiar? Pretty much the exact same thing that happened in 2011. The Sox won 2 straight on 8/27/11 in a DH against Oak, then did not win 2 consecutive games again until April 13th and 14th, 2012.

 

This team will right the ship, starting tonight, but it's just a strange coincidence.

 

Also, the Sox are 16-15 since the ASB, so it's not like they're playing .333 and winning 1 and then losing 2 like Sept of 2011. They're winning 1 and losing 1.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The Sox have 9 more games against the Orioles, so it isn't exactly going to be hard to lose grip on the season. If they continue having 10-15 LOB in one or two run games, they're not going anywhere. This team's ability to produce with men on has been so abysmal that they're not going win anything unless they turn that around.

 

This is something that ebbs and flows through the season. There's no rhyme or reason for it, it just happens that way. It'll turn. We have had a couple stretches like this already this season. They'll snap out of it.

[Bellhorn04]

What's really disturbing is blowing leads like this. 6-3 vs. the Yankees, 2-0 vs. the Giants. Offense shuts down and pitchers cough it up. And manager is starting to look questionable.

[Palodios]

In August, the Red Sox have lost 10 games. 5 of those were decided by 1 run.

[SoxFanForsyth]

In August, the Red Sox have lost 10 games. 5 of those were decided by 1 run.

 

Yup. It's just another .500 month. Just like May. Gotta bounce back the same way as June, when they went 17-11.

[SoxFanForsyth]

In August, the Red Sox have lost 10 games. 5 of those were decided by 1 run.

 

We also lost to the Rays 2-1 on that Nava blown all in the 11th loss. So 6 of the past 11 losses have been by 1 run.

 

Makes me think it's just a minor tweak that needs to be made. We're not getting blown out. We're just not exactly right.

[Bellhorn04]

We have to win today. If we lose today it's 4 straight series losses, against teams with worse records. That would not be not good at all.

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox house of cards might be falling. Then again, they could just go on a 9-1 run again and bury the East. They're an interesting team because a lot of the team is playing over their head, yet just when it looks like they're coming back to earth, they take off again

[SoxFanForsyth]

The sox house of cards might be falling. Then again, they could just go on a 9-1 run again and bury the East. They're an interesting team because a lot of the team is playing over their head, yet just when it looks like they're coming back to earth, they take off again

 

They're 9-10 in August and they're 16-15 since the ASB. That's hardly "house of cards falling". Even if they continue to play .500 baseball, they'll still win 91 games.

 

For the Orioles to win 91 games, they have to go 24-13 the rest of the way, or .649 baseball (105 win pace). For the Yankees to win 91 games, they have to go 25-12 the rest of the way, or .676 win baseball (110 win pace), and they have Hughes, CC, and Pettitte starting 60% of those games.

 

Color me not worried. The only thing I'm concerned with is whether or not the Sox are going to be able to win the East.

[a700hitter]

Maybe Victorino should have let that ball drop foul to prevent the sac fly.

I was screaming "No" at the TV on that play. I was hoping that Victorino would let it fall foul and take another shot at getting the batter out without the run scoring. It reminded me of a play years back against Tampa when J.D. caught a long foul fly and either the tying or winning run scored.

 

We are 2 games down in the loss column, and don't look now, but the Yankees are only 5 games back in the loss column and Dumpster helped galvanize them and inject them with renewed energy.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I was screaming "No" at the TV on that play. I was hoping that Victorino would let it fall foul and take another shot at getting the batter out without the run scoring. It reminded me of a play years back against Tampa when J.D. caught a long foul fly and either the tying or winning run scored.

 

We are 2 games down in the loss column, and don't look now, but the Yankees are only 5 games back in the loss column and Dumpster helped galvanize them and inject them with renewed energy.

 

Yeah, lets let the reigning NL MVP have another shot to give the Giants the lead. That's silly. You take the out from Posey everytime, even if it ties the game. Tazawa has a huge HR problem, and Posey can absolutely mash. You catch that ball every single time with Posey up.

[Navafan29]

But wouldn't Posey's 30-40% chance of getting a hit be less dangerous than the 98% chance of the runner scoring on a sac fly?

[SoxFanForsyth]

But wouldn't Posey's 30-40% chance of getting a hit be less dangerous than the 98% chance of the runner scoring on a sac fly?

 

You also have to factor that if he was to get a hit, the runner on 1st would then be in scoring position with less than 2 outs, which would then increase their odds of scoring the go ahead run as well.

[Thunder]

So speechless after this game. No excuse for losing.

 

BTR, your turn for a GT.

[a700hitter]

Yeah, lets let the reigning NL MVP have another shot to give the Giants the lead. That's silly. You take the out from Posey everytime, even if it ties the game. Tazawa has a huge HR problem, and Posey can absolutely mash. You catch that ball every single time with Posey up.

Yes SFF that is a good point about Posey being the batter, but I don't think that it was a completely silly notion. Eck raised it as a possibility in the booth. I think the odds were better to get Posey out or walk him without scoring a run than for Victorino to throw the plate. If Taz gets out of that without the run scoring, Koji pitches the 9th and we put a game in the W column. As it turned out, catching the ball did not work out last night. Edited August 21, 2013 by a700hitter

[Thunder]

Looking ahead at this weekend, we have a dilemma. Yankees @ Rays for a 3 game set. Way the Yanks are playing, we need them to win, but they could be right up there to at the end of the weekend. Friday's probables are CC against Ramon Hernandez

[sk7326]

I don't blame Farrell per se since most big league managers have been conditioned to this ... but ... 2 outs, need to get one guy out ... and somehow Uehara never gets the call ... sigh

[SoxSport]

Farrell is getting criticized on the tweets for putting that wild guy in with the bases loaded--with predictable results.

 

They are 2-5 in 1-run games since the all-star break. TB is 10-2. That's the difference. They need to look at why they aren't winning these low scoring games. One reason has to be their weak middle part of the order. Especially against LHP. After Ortiz, you have a lot of outs.

 

They are going to have to get untracked, or they will miss the playoffs. the Yankees have recharged with Soriano. The Red Sox have not. Peavy has been good, but Farrell has a quick hook--except with Dempster.Wasted effort.

[a700hitter]

I am not sure why Ortiz was sitting against a RH pitcher last night when we will be facing lefties in 3 of the next 4 games.

[a700hitter]

The sox house of cards might be falling. Then again, they could just go on a 9-1 run again and bury the East. They're an interesting team because a lot of the team is playing over their head, yet just when it looks like they're coming back to earth, they take off again

This is what happens to over-performing teams in August. The dog days set in and the men separate from the boys when the going gets tough. This Red Sox team had outperformed everyone's expectations, so this bump should have been expected. To the credit of the FO, they saw the opportunity to make a big post season run and they reinforced the team with a pretty good starting pitcher. They did not stand pat and try to make do with what they had. I would have liked to add a RH to protect Ortiz, because the lineup around him is not very good at all.

 

The team has blown a tire. If Buchholz comes back by September 1st, they can fix it and back in the fast lane. If not, or if he just doesn't have it when he comes back, the wheels could fall off this bus.

Edited August 21, 2013 by a700hitter

[SoxFanForsyth]

I am not sure why Ortiz was sitting against a RH pitcher last night when we will be facing lefties in 3 of the next 4 games.

 

To be fair, Gaudin was set to pitch yesterday and he was scratched at like 8 pm last night eastern time.

[SoxFanForsyth]

This is what happensd to over-performing teams in August. The dog days set in and the men separate from the boys when the going gets tough. This Red Sox team had outperformed everyone's expectations, so this bump should have been expected. To the credit of the FO, they saw the opportunity to make a big post season run and they reinforced the team with a pretty good starting pitcher. They did not stand pat and try to make do with what they had. I would have liked to add a RH to protect Ortiz, because the lineup around him is not very good at all.

 

The team has blown a tire. If Buchholz comes back by September 1st, they can fix it and back in the fast lane. If not, or if he just doesn't have it when he comes back, the wheels could fall off this bus.

 

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