Drew replaces Iggy on Wednesday

[rorschach]

What are your thoughts on a cold, below average hitter in Stephen Drew replacing a red hot Jose Iglesias this coming Wednesday? Personally I don't think it is the right decision, as I believe he has earned his playing time for at least the time being. Why not let Iggy's hot bat run it's course, while slowly phasing Drew into the lineup starting with giving Iggy a day off here and there for rest sake.

 

I guess to me, it just doesn't make much sense, to bench a kid whose a defensive dynamo, who is also batting .529 against to of the better pitching staffs in the AL.

 

What say you folks?

[mvp 78]

Drew's OPS prior to his ankle injury was 100+, that's not below average.

 

Also, how do we know Drew just won't be phased in gradually at this point anyway.

[a700hitter]

I wanted Iggy to get his opportunity in 2013, but the team invested $8 million in Drew. The money always wins.

[Bellhorn04]

Fluid situation I would say. If Drew doesn't play well the clamor for Iggy will be swift and deafening. If he does play well there's a controversy a'brewing.

[a700hitter]

Fluid situation I would say. If Drew doesn't play well the clamor for Iggy will be swift and deafening. If he does play well there's a controversy a'brewing.

Once Iggy gets sent down, it's a dead issue. They can't bring him back up for 10 days.

[Dojji]

Drew was going to start at some point. You can rail against the money winning, but the team isn't going to mothball $8M in shortstop for an entire season. That would be freaking ridiculous whether you like Iggy or not.

[a700hitter]

Drew was going to start at some point. You can rail against the money winning, but the team isn't going to mothball $8M in shortstop for an entire season. That would be freaking ridiculous whether you like Iggy or not.

I said that the money will win. I agree that Drew will play when able, and Iggy will get the bus ticket to Pawtucket. I am not sure where you have a disagreement with what I posted. I would never have signed Drew. I am on record that this was a season to see what we have with some of our more ripe prospects. Is that where you disagree... about the signing?

[MANNYHOF24]

Am I the only one who wants I see what Drew can do? He is a lefty that was one of the best hitting and defensive SS's in the game for 4 seasons...

[redsoxbeatz]

Am I the only one who wants I see what Drew can do? He is a lefty that was one of the best hitting and defensive SS's in the game for 4 seasons...

 

I want to see him play too, but if Iggy stays hot these next two days I think he should play till he goes cold... but if Drew steps in on Wed and impresses off the bat then great!

[a700hitter]

Am I the only one who wants I see what Drew can do? He is a lefty that was one of the best hitting and defensive SS's in the game for 4 seasons...

We could do worse than having Drew play SS for us. He is a known quantity. There is no Drew mystery (I resisted saying Nancy Drew Mystery-- no I didn't). I am interested in seeing what Iggy has. He is not a known quantity.

[a700hitter]

I want to see him play too, but if Iggy stays hot these next two days I think he should play till he goes cold... but if Drew steps in on Wed and impresses off the bat then great!

If Iggy goes 10 for 10 before Wednesday, they will still put him on the Pawtucket shuttle.

[rorschach]

Drew's OPS prior to his ankle injury was 100+, that's not below average.

 

Also, how do we know Drew just won't be phased in gradually at this point anyway.

 

Because Farrell has already said Drew is his starting SS when he returns.

 

Drew is a career .260 hitter who strikes out a ton and hardly ever walks (about 3 K's for every 1 walk.) In his 6 seasons in the Big's he's flirted with the Mendoza line twice.

 

Plus combined the last 2 seasons he's played a total of 164 games. He's inherited the Drew injury bug from big bro.

[redsoxbeatz]

If Iggy goes 10 for 10 before Wednesday, they will still put him on the Pawtucket shuttle.

 

That's why what we think doesn't matter

[a700hitter]

That's why what we think doesn't matter

That's right. The only thing we can do is disagree and discuss.

[jung]

I think it is 50-50 that they just allow Iggy to play his way out of the lineup and then start Drew. Saves them a lotta' grief and aggravation. The fact is that Iggy is taking away base hits. So he is not just making the plays he should make and a few more...he is taking hits away.

 

Chances probably not better than 50-50 but I don't think Drew coming back and going right into the lineup every day is a dead nuts cinch.

[Dojji]

I'd drop Carp instead of Iggy. Let him and Drew wrestle for it and give Farrell ulcers thinking how best to use his 2 very good shortstops.

[a700hitter]

I think it is 50-50 that they just allow Iggy to play his way out of the lineup and then start Drew. Saves them a lotta' grief and aggravation. The fact is that Iggy is taking away base hits. So he is not just making the plays he should make and a few more...he is taking hits away.

 

Chances probably not better than 50-50 but I don't think Drew coming back and going right into the lineup every day is a dead nuts cinch.

Do they cut Ciriaco for this to happen?

[a700hitter]

I'd drop Carp instead of Iggy. Let him and Drew wrestle for it and give Farrell ulcers thinking how best to use his 2 very good shortstops.

When Ortiz comes back, Iggy would still have to go, and Drew might be rusty if Iglesias is playing in front of him.

[Dojji]

Do they cut Ciriaco for this to happen?

 

I think Ciriaco could fetch a useful return in trade.

 

But then I'm on record beleiving that Ciriaco could start for a few teams -- at second if not at short. Second base is notoriously weak in talent right now.

[rjortiz]

I really don't think Ciriaco nets us anything more than a C prospect or a reliever.

[Dojji]

When Ortiz comes back, Iggy would still have to go, and Drew might be rusty if Iglesias is playing in front of him.

 

Depends on how Bradley's doing. I'd say we can cross that bridge when we come to it.

 

The weakest link right now is Carp. If the team trusted Carp, he would have played over Nava on Sunday afternoon. He's gone now or later, might as well let Iggy have a bit more PT in the meantime.

[a700hitter]

I think Ciriaco could fetch a useful return in trade.

 

But then I'm on record beleiving that Ciriaco could start for a few teams -- at second if not at short. Second base is notoriously weak in talent right now.

If they DFA him to make room for Drew, they have 10 days to make a deal for him. We'd run the risk of losing him for nothing.

[Dojji]

I really don't think Ciriaco nets us anything more than a C prospect or a reliever.

 

You may be right, you may be wrong. I don't really want to lose Ciriaco if it can be avoided, I'm on record beleiving strongly in his value after all, but I think that it would be a crime to send Iglesias down right now.

[rjortiz]

Ciriaco can play SS, 2B, 3B, LF. I think that's what keeps him up with the ball club. Carp stays as the backup 1B. Bradley goes down to AA/AAA, and Nava/Gomes platoon in LF.

[Dojji]

That's Drew sorted, now what about Ortiz?

 

Bradley and one other player, or Iglesias and one other player, or Bradley and Iglesias, or two other players, are going down. Those are your options.

 

Right now if you don't make a move your obvious answers are either Carp and Bradley or Carp and Iglesias. Either wat, Carp is by far the weakest link. The franchise clearly trusts Nava over Carp at first, that's why Nava started there on a getaway day game. If you were going to work Carp into the lineup that was the time to do it; Farrell went with Nava.

 

That means that either Iglesias or Bradley goes down when Ortiz returns.

[rjortiz]

I think Bradley and Iglesias both go down, so they can continue taking regular AB's.

[Dojji]

You'd rather have Carp on the roster than Iglesias?

 

Why?

[rjortiz]

You'd rather have Carp on the roster than Iglesias?

 

Why?

 

I'm just speculating on who stays, but I'd rather have Carp, because Iglesias can get regular AB's, instead of toiling away on the bench.

[Dojji]

I think even in a bench role, Iglesias returns far more value than Carp.

 

If Iglesias were a top offensive prospect perhaps I'd feel differently, but I think that Iggy needs to do his learning in the bigs. He's not going to learn how to beat big league pitching by swinging in the minors.

[jung]

As things stand now I would probably opt to move Carp somewhere. Nava and Ciriaco have all that versatility going for them. Carp gives you some of that. But I like the positions Ciriaco plays and I like the way Nava as a backup plays the positions he plays. If Nava were a bust at 1st I might rethink that. Oddly enough he has done OK over there. Looks funny over there. He has played OK though. He likely knows more about Fenway's LF than any other current Sox OF.