World Baseball Classic?

[a700hitter]

Thank f***ing god that its over

As you know, I go to Spring Training every year. It pisses me off that I miss seeing a lot of players every 4th year because they are at the WBC. I would have liked to have Victorino and Xander this Spring.

[BSN07]

As you know, I go to Spring Training every year. It pisses me off that I miss seeing a lot of players every 4th year because they are at the WBC. I would have liked to have Victorino and Xander this Spring.

 

The Sox had it better then some teams. But I get what your saying. A couple players every 4 years isn't that bad though. You did miss out on a possible Aceves inspired brawl though, that I can see being upset over

 

And because of the WBC we got to see Bogaerts prove in a SSS that he can handle 3B. While I hope he sticks at SS for the most part, it's nice to know he's capable of picking up another position if needed.

[a700hitter]

The Sox had it better then some teams. But I get what your saying. A couple players every 4 years isn't that bad though. You did miss out on a possible Aceves inspired brawl though, that I can see being upset over

 

And because of the WBC we got to see Bogaerts prove in a SSS that he can handle 3B. While I hope he sticks at SS for the most part, it's nice to know he's capable of picking up another position if needed.

4 years ago was worse. More guys were missing including Pedroia and Ortiz.

[VA Sox Fan]

The Sox had it better then some teams. But I get what your saying. A couple players every 4 years isn't that bad though. You did miss out on a possible Aceves inspired brawl though, that I can see being upset over

 

And because of the WBC we got to see Bogaerts prove in a SSS that he can handle 3B. While I hope he sticks at SS for the most part, it's nice to know he's capable of picking up another position if needed.

 

From the Globe:

 

 

 

Bogaerts: WBC experience was 'phenomenal'

 

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff March 20, 2013 09:14 AM

 

 

FORT MYERS, Fla. — Xander Bogaerts was back at Red Sox this camp this morning after being gone nearly a month for the WBC. He helped the Netherlands reach the semifinals, a sold achievement given the competition and their young roster.

 

"It was a phenomenal time," Bogaerts said. "I'm so glad I did it. The people back home were so excited with how we did."

 

Bogaerts had quite a journey. He left the Red Sox on Feb. 23 and joined the team in Taiwan for the first round. After the Dutch advanced, they trained in Arizona for a few days, then traveled to San Francisco for the semifinals. Now he's back in Red Sox camp.

 

Bogaerts speaks four languages — English, Dutch, Spanish and Papiamento — but that didn't help him much in Taiwan.

 

"You had to use hand signals for everything," he said. "But it was interesting being over there and we played well."

 

Bogaerts said the best part of the experience was getting to know players like Andrelton Simmons of the Braves and one of his idols growing up, Andruw Jones.

 

"That was amazing, getting to talk to Andruw. We got to be close friends," Bogaerts said. "He was the player we all watched and wanted to be like coming up."

 

Bogaert played well, too. Counting two exhibition games, he was 9 of 25 with three doubles and three RBIs over nine games. He also played third base for the first time in his career.

 

"That was tough because it's so different than shortstop," Bogaerts said. "I had to get used to the ball coming so fast. But I made the adjustment."

 

The Sox have said that Bogaerts will remain at shortstop, although he could get some time at third base as a way to get some at-bats in games.

 

John Farrell said Tuesday that Bogaerts would spend some time in major league camp before going down to prepare for his season in the minors.

 

"The WBC was a good experience. I learned a lot," Bogaerts said. "Now I want to get some at-bats hopefully and get ready for the season. I'm glad I'm back."

[italstallianion]

Wow, a foursome - me and 3 *******s. I am enjoying this. Where do I start first?

 

 

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[italstallianion]

You have no idea how much like a douche this makes you sound. Different cultures enjoy their sports in different ways. Just because it's not the way you think it should be doesn't make it wrong.

 

Just to point out just how ignorant your comment is, a soccer match in Japan isn't nearly as loud and crazy as one in Latin America (notice the trend for loud?). So are places where they don't "dance around" during soccer games "idiots"?

 

 

The Campfighter might sound like a douche but I think he's right here.

 

I think it's unfair to criticize the US fans for not caring about the WBC when the players and teams themselves don't care about the WBC. If the WBC included the best US team it could possibly assemble (meaning Willie Bloomquist will be taken out back and disposed of) then I can see the Americans caring. But the Americans care more about the money and domestic teams than their country teams.

 

In addition, I think there's a difference between being a "good fan" and being an annoying, yelling, screaming, douchebag. My facebook feed had 1 friend flood with nonstop WBC posts. Any guesses as to who it is? I'll give you a clue, he used to post here and he's Dominican. He was annoying as f*** rubbing in a WBC victory that his team should have won. And if as a fan, you bring horns/vuvuzelas to games I hope your bench collapses.

 

On a slightly related note, the Dominican team should get 95 fastballs to the temple for acting like a bunch of douchebags for celebrating like they did during the WBC. It's baseball, not soccer. You didn't score a goal, you didn't win the World Cup. You won a tournament barely anybody cares about as one of the favorite teams that was supposed to win. I want to see Rawling's inscribed backwards on their heads.

[User Name]

And this is the exact problem that plagues the US. It's the "my way or the highway" mentality that doesn't allow people to see the bigger picture or accept that there are, actually, other people in the word. He's wrong, and so are you. It has nothing to do with s***** ass soccer, but has everything to do with people being able to celebrate however the f*** they want at a sporting event they paid their money to attend as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. If you have a problem with it, then you can promptly go f*** yourself.

 

Btw, are you sure that the post on facebook from "this annoying friend" wasn't made to someone else's wall and you were the one who came in "pre-emptively" like an ******* to piss on the punch? Just a question.

[Palodios]

I don't necessarily see it as a bad thing that the DR, or other countries celebrate the way they do. But it is important that they put things into perspective, and realize that the tournament is really just extended spring training. Winning the WBC is the equivalent of winning the mayor's cup-- its kind of fun, but the teams involved aren't necessarily the best teams out there.

[User Name]

If you put it into perspective, it is a very big deal to some of the other countries involved. To some other countries it isn't just "extended ST" or "The Mayor's Cup". It's a big national pride thing, and they put forth absolutely the best team they can.

 

Again, the American POV isn't the only POV.

[italstallianion]

And this is the exact problem that plagues the US. It's the "my way or the highway" mentality that doesn't allow people to see the bigger picture or accept that there are, actually, other people in the word. He's wrong, and so are you. It has nothing to do with s***** ass soccer, but has everything to do with people being able to celebrate however the f*** they want at a sporting event they paid their money to attend as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. If you have a problem with it, then you can promptly go f*** yourself.

 

Btw, are you sure that the post on facebook from "this annoying friend" wasn't made to someone else's wall and you were the one who came in "pre-emptively" like an ******* to piss on the punch? Just a question.

 

 

I don't see why you're getting upset with me. I was just voicing that players that celebrate obnoxiously for a game that they are among the only ones that care about and that they should win in the first place is classless. And in baseball, classless = sweet chin music. Having class and assuming mutual class and respect from others isn't what "plagues" the US. This has nothing to do with the US not seeing the big picture. This isn't just about celebrations, it's about respect and class, and you seem to lack both. Not to mention the fact that the tournament was reasonably handed to them. Do Dominicans act like this when they get wins handed to them in other walks of life.

 

You're just as "my way or the highway" as anyone. TheCampFighter and myself voiced our displeasure for obnoxious fans who would get slumped on sight for being jackasses if it were legal. Those fans have every right to do what they want, however on the flip side, we have every right to go to a game and not be interrupted by drunk or otherwise obnoxious fans. We paid just as much money to go to the games. Just because it doesn't physically hurt anyone doesn't mean it doesn't inflict on someone else, or that it isn't wrong. Those obnoxious players/fans are wrong and so are you. If you have a problem with me having a problem with it, then you can go f*** yourself...twice.

 

As for the facebook incident, Dipre had a stream of ridiculous celebration posts that flooded my newsfeed. I reminded him that the US doesn't care about the WBC and that the Domincans won a tournament that was practically handed to them and they shouldn't act like douchebags for something they SHOULD win. He got butthurt and started attacking me for going out of my way and for thinking the world revolves around the US. (Which in true Dipre form brings in irrelevant and uncorrelated crap to arguments because he has to try and come back with something because he can never admit defeat)

 

The way you attacked me so passionately for me having never mentioned you, and the way you brought in irrelevant comments (me somehow being what plagues the US or that the Americans being self centered has something to do with Dominicans obnoxious celebrations), and the way that a simple disagreement turned into you telling me I can to f*** myself, and the weak "your facebook argument is invalid because you wrote on a post someone else posted on someone else's wall (even though the criticisms of the flood posts are correct and unchallenged)" all point to behavior Dipre would use.

 

And I was one of the few people that liked Dipre enough to take his side and befriend him, even though he can be an absolute jackass a lot of the time. Hell I often regret sharing the friendship and aspects of my personal life with him. He was a smart poster and brought a lot to the table, but his banning was almost unanimously supported because at times he was the biggest jackass of jackasses. He was stubborn, and an often ignorant cut-throat commenter on situations that completely did not merit it.

[italstallianion]

If you put it into perspective, it is a very big deal to some of the other countries involved. To some other countries it isn't just "extended ST" or "The Mayor's Cup". It's a big national pride thing, and they put forth absolutely the best team they can.

 

Again, the American POV isn't the only POV.

 

 

Honestly, I think that the whole "everyone in the world should act with class like Americans do" as well as the "everyone in the world should tolerate the way we Domincan players/fans act" are BOTH selfish arguments.

 

Likewise, the Domincan POV isn't the only POV. They have as much right to celebrate the way they do as I have the right to criticize them for it, as much as you have the right to criticize me for criticizing them for it, etc etc.

 

I still don't see how the Dominicans winning a tournament that almost nobody cared about and that they should have won is such a big deal. So if I put it into perspective, it's still not a big deal. Perhaps it is you with your national pride that isn't seeing the big picture (as opposed to the US that knows it just a game that doesn't matter enough to send top talent)

[Palodios]

If you put it into perspective, it is a very big deal to some of the other countries involved. To some other countries it isn't just "extended ST" or "The Mayor's Cup". It's a big national pride thing, and they put forth absolutely the best team they can.

 

Again, the American POV isn't the only POV.

 

The MLB, MiLB, and NPB all have spring training in March. Sure, some teams have more pride, and play harder, but their opponents aren't at their best. What's even worse, is that some of their own players aren't even at their best yet because of the time in the season.

 

Its like fighting Rocky before he goes through the training montage.

[a700hitter]

The best players in the World are not at the tournament, so the title is meaningless. The DR can celebrate all they want. Bragging rights only mean something if the people you are bragging to give a s***.

[mvp 78]

I hate when people have fun with things I don't like! Waaaaaah...

 

If you yell, you are not a good sports fan? No wonder baseball's popularity is tanking.

[mvp 78]

And whining about a facebook feed is completely ridiculous.

[italstallianion]

And whining about a facebook feed is completely ridiculous.

 

 

Fair enough, I just limited the information I see from him. It's just annoying to see one dude write dozens of statuses and wall posts about a game nobody else cares about. And instead of unfriending him (like a bitch) I spoke to him about it.

 

Real talk, while Dipre and I don't get along every once in a while, we were really good friends on here for years and I'm not going to throw away a multi year friendship over some stupid s*** like this. That type of petty s*** is something someone else I knew from here would do. #Shotsfired

[italstallianion]

The best players in the World are not at the tournament, so the title is meaningless. The DR can celebrate all they want. Bragging rights only mean something if the people you are bragging to give a s***.

 

 

The titles only as respected as the men who hold it.

[Palodios]

The titles only as respected as the men who hold it.

 

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