Next Manager

[Gringo]

Who do you think it will be?

 

Maddox?

Sciosca?

Farrell?

[ConroyManfrogg]

Why on earth do people think Farrell is a good head coach.

 

It is hard telling what the market will be in four years. Meaning BV will be here for at least that duration.

[Dojji]

Why on earth would any of the really solid managerial candidates come here of all places? There's better places for an aspiring manager to put down roots right now.

 

With the way the room is, combined with the way the office is, this is a job that grinds good managers up. Look what happened to Tito. If he can't hack this job, with all the advantages he had going for him going into the year, I can't see any manager with a good reputation risking it by agreeing to come here. Likely it's going to be a new retread every few years until a few people wise up or leave.

 

That said my choice at the moment would be DeMarlo Hale. We got worse quickly after DeMarlo moved on. It might be a coincidence, but then again it might not.

[mvp 78]

Anyone with no ties to the organization would be fine with me. I don't really care for Hale, Mills, Farrell, etc. Though I'd give Beyeler consideration.

[Elktonnick]

Why on earth do people think Farrell is a good head coach.

 

It is hard telling what the market will be in four years. Meaning BV will be here for at least that duration.

 

There hasn't been a head coach in the major leagues since 1966 when Leo Durocher ended Phil Wrigley's failed experiment of a naming a head coach instead of a manager. During Wrigley's failed experiment the Cubs were consistently one of the worst teams in baseball.

[Behindenemylines]

If you bring someone from outside the organization it has to be someone that is respected around baseball. Because it is someone the players need to respect from day 1. This person can't the headline every night. If the manager is the headline every night then he is either saying something stupid or is managing is stupid. Before I make a pick I think there are some current managers that might be candidates.

[Dojji]

Anyone with no ties to the organization would be fine with me. I don't really care for Hale, Mills, Farrell, etc. Though I'd give Beyeler consideration.

 

I think that's a bit shortsighted. Hale's a solid coach, and I could easily see him measuring up to a managerial position.

[Dojji]

There hasn't been a head coach in the major leagues since 1966 when Leo Durocher ended Phil Wrigley's failed experiment of a naming a head coach instead of a manager. During Wrigley's failed experiment the Cubs were consistently one of the worst teams in baseball.

 

didacticism at its finest. You knew what he meant, don't be an *******.

[Dojji]

If you bring someone from outside the organization it has to be someone that is respected around baseball. Because it is someone the players need to respect from day 1. This person can't the headline every night. If the manager is the headline every night then he is either saying something stupid or is managing is stupid. Before I make a pick I think there are some current managers that might be candidates.

 

Maybe, but you have to make sure that you're approaching respectability from the right perspective. Just because the media or the fans respect a guy doesn't mean the players will. And two managers later don't try to tell me that the players have to sit down, shut up and take it. That's not what MLB has looked like at any time in the last 3 decades.

[Elktonnick]

didacticism at its finest. You knew what he meant, don't be an *******.

 

No an ******* would permit someone to continue to sound ignorant by using a term that is not used in major league baseball. Just as there is no crying in baseball, there are no head coaches in the major leagues.

[SoxSport]

The management seems to be in love with Farrell. The guy has had a mediocre two years managing the Jays. And he was no Johnny Sain as pitching coach in Boston. Yet they seem to be willing to sacrifice a prospect to get him. I hope not. He's not worth it.

Pitching coaches rarely make good managers, by the way. Somebody should remind Henry of that.

 

It's not just the manager that makes a successful organization. It's the people upstairs. And I don't see the people upstairs there yet that can reassemble this team. Henry pulled off a coup getting rid of a lot of gold plated deadwood. But I don't think he has the management team to be successful.

[SCM33]

Mike Stanley.

[InfernoOrangeSS]

I sincerely hope it is not Farrell.

[mvp 78]

I think that's a bit shortsighted. Hale's a solid coach, and I could easily see him measuring up to a managerial position.

 

Hale was the bench coach for ladt year's fiasco, no thanks. He showed little leadership over this group then, why would it change now?

[mvp 78]

Mike Stanley.

 

He quit coaching in 2002. Why would he come back?

[Bellhorn04]

I think Farrell's candidacy is toast. On top of the Jays' poor record they are now having the infamous 'clubhouse issues' coming to light.

[lospunchados]

Why on earth do people think Farrell is a good head coach.

 

It is hard telling what the market will be in four years. Meaning BV will be here for at least that duration.

 

His contract is only for two years with two options. so four years is definitly not guaranteed.

[Behindenemylines]

BV is done. Fair or not the era will end after one season. The club house has gotten worst and he has lost many who reside there. Now grant it some of those individuals will also be leaving with him.

[a700hitter]

I do not think much of Farrell. He has a young team that is very poor at executing the fundamentals and the team runs recklessly. He's had two years as manager. He should have done a better job.

[ConroyManfrogg]

The club house has gotten worst

 

thats not true

[Behindenemylines]

Ryne Sandberg would be an interesting candidate. HOF baseball career, managing in minors since 2007. The last two with the Phillies AAA team, and was named Baseball America's 2011 Manager of the Year.

[mvp 78]

Cafardo mentionned Brad Ausmus as a likely target. I'd be ok with it.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I'd like to see Dave Martinez get a shot at managing. We got rid of most of the big ego's on the team, and Dave seems like a guy who is more Francona-like, which is what the 2013 Sox would likely be better off having.

[ConroyManfrogg]

If BV gets fired i will be excited to hear his comments about the sox organization and the year he had.

[FenwayWest]

Read up on Ryne Sandberg.... I like him...

[TutGadol]

Pitcher's make crappy head coaches but I wouldn't mind giving Maddox a chance. He should get the player's respect. Hopefully the united hate for Valentine brought the clubhouse together.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

As long as Valentine's gone I don't really care.

[a700hitter]

Valentine fired!

 

http://www.facebook.com/RedSox

[Elktonnick]

Pitcher's make crappy head coaches but I wouldn't mind giving Maddox a chance. He should get the player's respect. Hopefully the united hate for Valentine brought the clubhouse together.

 

I was criticized for posting this before but I think it important to let you know in the U.S. major league baseball the term is manager not head coach.

 

I confess I had a culture shock when I was managing my second game in a Spanish baseball league nearly thirty years ago and the "arbitro" started flashing me a yellow card when I went out to protest a call. My players started rushing me off the field before I got a "red" card. My question for you is in the Israeli league do they "card" players as well.

[Gringo]

I want an entirely new manager/coaching setup with no ties to the club to take over. Anyone with the club right now as a coach should be shown the door too.

 

Maybe now we can get the fresh start we were promised last year.