Next Manager

[Bosoxbryson]

its worked so far why not jason varitex?

[SoxFanForsyth]

I think it's hilarious how everyone is so down on Farrell because of his record with the Jays.

 

What, exactly, was Francona's record with the Phillies before coming to Boston? Oh, 65-97.

 

Point being - different strokes for different folks. Just because a coach doesn't work out in one place doesn't mean he's just simply not a good coach. Farrell already has all of the respect of the Red Sox players, especially the leaders (i.e. Pedroia, Ortiz, Lester, Buchholz).

 

It's also been widely reported that Farrell and Alex Anthropolus haven't exactly seen eye to eye, but we all know that he fits in well with the Red Sox FO. Having the backing of a FO is extremely important (see: Valentine, 2012).

[Bellhorn04]

I think it's hilarious how everyone is so down on Farrell because of his record with the Jays.

 

What, exactly, was Francona's record with the Phillies before coming to Boston? Oh, 65-97.

 

Point being - different strokes for different folks. Just because a coach doesn't work out in one place doesn't mean he's just simply not a good coach. Farrell already has all of the respect of the Red Sox players, especially the leaders (i.e. Pedroia, Ortiz, Lester, Buchholz).

 

It's also been widely reported that Farrell and Alex Anthropolus haven't exactly seen eye to eye, but we all know that he fits in well with the Red Sox FO. Having the backing of a FO is extremely important (see: Valentine, 2012).

 

I would agree that the Jays' W-L record shouldn't necessarily be used as the measuring stick for Farrell. But to those who support him I would ask them to evaluate what they see as his strengths based on his 2 years with the Jays. And there are a couple of things that raise questions.

 

-Why exactly do we have reports about him and Anthropolus not being on good terms?

 

-More importantly, what happened to the Jays clubhouse? First we had Escobar and the absurd eye-black incident. Then we had Vizquel's strange outburst about the lack of discipline and teaching of young players.

 

Hopefully the Sox FO won't just disregard these red flags.

[Elktonnick]

I would agree that the Jays' W-L record shouldn't necessarily be used as the measuring stick for Farrell. But to those who support him I would ask them to evaluate what they see as his strengths based on his 2 years with the Jays. And there are a couple of things that raise questions.

 

-Why exactly do we have reports about him and Anthropolus not being on good terms?

 

-More importantly, what happened to the Jays clubhouse? First we had Escobar and the absurd eye-black incident. Then we had Vizquel's strange outburst about the lack of discipline and teaching of young players.

 

Hopefully the Sox FO won't just disregard these red flags.

 

Given the criticism of both Francona and Valentine over "losing" the clubhouse, it seems the Red Sox would be prudent to find out exactly what happened in Toronto. The Red Sox however have a pattern to disregard negative information once they have set their mind on obtaining certain personnel. I'd prefer that they look elsewhere. Someone with a totally different organizational perspective would be preferable in my view.

[a700hitter]

Mike Lowell. I don't know if he has been mentioned or if he would be interested, but he would command respect. Guys would play for him.

[iortiz]

Seriously, who cares about the manager, go and get the f***ing arms.

[redsoxfan3]

Mike Lowell. I don't know if he has been mentioned or if he would be interested, but he would command respect. Guys would play for him.

 

He has been mentioned in several reports I have seen. Him with Bill Mueller and Varitek have been the options of former players. I think a former player like Varitek or Lowell would be a decent option. I just hope that Cherington really does evaluate and interview a lot of candidates and does not just the idea of only hiring Farrell in mind. I know that he will conduct several interviews, but let's just hope he gives others a chance. I am not big on Farrell and I am not saying he will not be a good manager here, but there are plenty of options. Let's just hope we choose the right option.

[Bellhorn04]

The buzz is pretty strong that it's going to be Farrell. And I'm hearing a lot of negativity about Farrell already. Great...

[Behindenemylines]

I am reading a lot about Farrell as well. If the Jays ask for some crazy compensation I hope the Sox walk away. The losing that went on in Toronto this season probably led to a lot of the problems the Jays had in the club house. Farrell had a lot of injuries to his starting pitching and he lost his best hitter for a good part of the season so that has a lot to do with their struggles. As for Varitek I here he is not interested in managing at this time. Lowell and Mueller are both interesting candidates. I had mention Ryne Sandberg as a possibility and then the Phillies made him their bench coach for 2013. He is probably going to be the next Phillies manager when Charlie leaves.

[a700hitter]

The buzz is pretty strong that it's going to be Farrell. And I'm hearing a lot of negativity about Farrell already. Great...

I watched a lot of the Jays games the last two years. His teams were very unsound fundamentally and they ran the bases recklessly. I had heard the same evaluations from our broadcasters and the Yankee broadcasters. We don't need this guy, especially if we have to provide compensation.

[Behindenemylines]

A lot of people say pitching coaches don't make good managers and that may be the case with Farrell.

[CX360]

Manny Acta is available now.

 

Just kidding of course. I wouldn't wish that slime on any team.

[TutGadol]

I was criticized for posting this before but I think it important to let you know in the U.S. major league baseball the term is manager not head coach.

 

I confess I had a culture shock when I was managing my second game in a Spanish baseball league nearly thirty years ago and the "arbitro" started flashing me a yellow card when I went out to protest a call. My players started rushing me off the field before I got a "red" card. My question for you is in the Israeli league do they "card" players as well.

 

Carding is a soccer thing, we don't really do that with other sports.

[Elktonnick]

Carding is a soccer thing, we don't really do that with other sports.

 

That's why I was stunned by them doing in Spain. Of course that was in 1980.

[iortiz]

Just heard that Tito to Cleveland...

[jung]

That is a surprise. Seems to me that Tito's major talents lend themselves to a big market team somewhere. Maybe Tito is just done with that.

[Rdsxmbnt]

That is a surprise. Seems to me that Tito's major talents lend themselves to a big market team somewhere. Maybe Tito is just done with that.

 

There's only 30 teams, even less big market ones. That means there are 30 manager jobs out there, he probably just took the first one he was offered.

[Dojji]

That is a surprise. Seems to me that Tito's major talents lend themselves to a big market team somewhere. Maybe Tito is just done with that.

 

I'm not so sure that's true. Tito did big market well, but in charge of a small market does he do things differently? We don't know that yet.

[CX360]

There's only 30 teams, even less big market ones. That means there are 30 manager jobs out there, he probably just took the first one he was offered.

 

Well no, he said it was either going to be Cleveland or staying with ESPN, so...

[Behindenemylines]

Tito has roots with the Guardians by the way of his father and has a good relationship with their GM. I wish him well. He took a lot of the blame and was treaded badly on his way out Boston. I will always respect Tito for what he was able to do in 2004. Down 0-3 to the $pankees and no history of that type of come back ever happening. Hewas responsible for part of the 2004 magic. The question who will be Sox next manager?

[SoxSport]

Let's all agree that the dumbest thing the Red Sox could do would be to give up a top prospect for

the right to sniff Farrell's underwear, I mean, make him their manager. Love affairs have been known to be bad for the Red Sox. AdGon comes to mind. There are plenty of good manager prospects out there--especially guys who are good with youngsters. They have to look no further than Arnie Beyeler, who is an ideal candidate for obvious reasons.

 

Cherington's recent remark about wanting a lineup 1-9 in hitters is disturbing. The guy still doesn't get it. The problem is PITCHING, Ben. This year, the Sox finished in the top 5 or 6 in AL hitting, the bottom 5 or 6 in pitching. And that's with Papi taking the last two months off and Ellsbury being a non factor. What's needed is a pitching overhaul, and that should include an increased emphasis on DEFENSE.

Hopefully James and the other new consultants will help restore front office sanity, which has been missing the past few years.

[DocHolliday]

No matter who ends up as the next manager, the Red Sox simply cannot spend nearly as long as they spent last off season to come to a decision. Granted, they shouldn't necessarily rush and hire the wrong person. But it is extremely important that they move swiftly and, hopefully, they are are already into the early to middle stages of the process.

 

I think Pete Abe made a good point in his recent blog post today that as each day passes, the potential pool of managerial and coaching candidates will dwindle as well. Francona, who was hired over the weekend and was introduced today, serves as an example of how swiftly the other teams with current and potential managerial and coaching vacancies may have an advantage with early decisions. Say what you want about how Francona's tenure ended, but for the better part of his time here, he had a strong, talented, and committed coaching staff that played a large role in preparing the players to do their absolute best. Looking back on this season, it is very clear that V and his coaching staff were not committed to the same goal as a group.

 

When you also consider the multiple player personnel decisions this team faces as well, there simply is no excuse to spend nearly the amount of time spent last year on what turned out to be a terrible decision anyways.

[DocHolliday]

No matter who ends up as the next manager, the Red Sox simply cannot spend nearly as long as they spent last off season to come to a decision. Granted, they shouldn't necessarily rush and hire the wrong person. But it is extremely important that they move swiftly and, hopefully, they are are already into the early to middle stages of the process.

 

I think Pete Abe made a good point in his recent blog post today that as each day passes, the potential pool of managerial and coaching candidates will dwindle as well. Francona, who was hired over the weekend and was introduced today, serves as an example of how swiftly the other teams with current and potential managerial and coaching vacancies may have an advantage with early decisions. Say what you want about how Francona's tenure ended, but for the better part of his time here, he had a strong, talented, and committed coaching staff that played a large role in preparing the players to do their absolute best. Looking back on this season, it is very clear that V and his coaching staff were not committed to the same goal as a group.

 

When you also consider the multiple player personnel decisions this team faces as well, there simply is no excuse to spend nearly the amount of time spent last year on what turned out to be a terrible decision anyways.

[redsoxfan3]

Tim Wallach is an interesting option that I read about today. I do not really know much about him other than he has some managerial experience with the Dodgers AAA team and has experience as a hitting coach and 3B coach. Does anyone know more about him? He is getting an interview for the Red Sox position next week.

[Behindenemylines]

Tim Wallach is an interesting name that has been mentioned. I think the Sox are going to interview him and he is interested. He had some success at AAA with the Dodgers. In 2009 he was named Pacific Coast League manager of the year as his team won a franchise record number of games. I liked him as a player and have heard good things about him.

[redsoxfan3]

Tim Wallach is an interesting name that has been mentioned. I think the Sox are going to interview him and he is interested. He had some success at AAA with the Dodgers. In 2009 he was named Pacific Coast League manager of the year as his team won a franchise record number of games. I liked him as a player and have heard good things about him.

 

Like I said in my previous post, I do not know much about him, but I feel like he might be a decent option. I like the success he had in AAA with the Dodgers. I do not know much about his managing style, but he is a guy that many people probably do not know much about.

[Behindenemylines]

I think Wallach would make my short list as well.

[redsoxfan3]

I think Wallach would make my short list as well.

 

I think a pick like him would work over Farrell. He would cost a lot in terms of compensation. I do not like how bad his record has been with the Jays either. I just do not see why the FO is so high on him. I would probably even want Mills or Bogar over him as well. There are some interesting options with Mills, Ausmus, Varitek, Bogar, and Wallach. At least it sounds like the FO is exploring different options.

[jacksonianmarch]

I have a feeling Brad Ausmus will go far in the managerial search. Former defensive catchers have had some success this yr.

[SouthieFanatic]

I agree with Jackson, I think Ausmus will go deep in the search for a new manager. I hear Farrells name obviously, but I just don't like him as our manager. Tek is way too soon IMO