6/22 Braves @ Red Sox

[a700hitter]

That's the absolute most frustrating game I've seen this year. Unacceptable for the Sox to let Jurrjens pitch that way. That's f***ing infuriating.

They didn't work him at all.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Feels like a 10-0 game with Lester out there dragging eevry inning out.

 

I would be frustrated if the Sox were going up against Halladay and got shut down like that.

 

But f***ing Jurrjens?!?! Thats the kind of s*** that makes you want to break s***.

[Station 13]

I would be frustrated if the Sox were going up against Halladay and got shut down like that.

 

But f***ing Jurrjens?!?! Thats the kind of s*** that makes you want to break s***.

 

Give him some credits. He throws 1st pitch strike to almost every batter. He pitches to the corners.

[SoxSport]

Again tell me why do we want Crawford back

 

They are stuck with him, unless you can get a buyer for $20 mil per year for a few+ years.

[Station 13]

They didn't work him at all.

Jurgen threw a lot of first pitch strikes.

[SoxFanForsyth]

They didn't work him at all.

 

I don't even know why they came to the game.

[SoxSport]

There is nothing worse than a reliever who turns a close game into a less close game.

[jung]

It depends on whether Ells and CC would have been patient or not. CC certainly is not the most patient hitter on the planet by a long shot.

 

That was as disciplined and heady a performance by a junk baller as I have seen in a long time. But the Sox set themselves up for it by swinging at his junk early in counts early in the game and that sealed their fate right from the first inning.

 

Second time through the order, he went to starting them with that s*** FB and they laid off expecting the junk again and they got behind in the count. Third time through he was back to throwing junk early in counts and the Sox were back hackin' like they had been early in the game. Had they laid off early in the game, the whole profile of the game might have been different.

 

Guys like Nava did the best against him so if he was out of the game for CC, I am not sure this particular game would have worked out to our advantage.

 

We may still have lost to this guy on this night. However if they were a little smarter at the plate, we might have at least gotten to a tie late in the game handing it over to the bullpens.

 

I hate losing games like this cause it just points out our weaknesses relative to other teams...Starting Pitching and poise at the plate.

 

Don't mean to knock the guy especially since I don't know who they could have put in there to do better at least tonight but Pedey really did fail in some big spots tonight.

[SoxSport]

Daniel "the Natural" Nava

 

They'll never get this kid out of the lineup. Him and Middlebrooks.

 

Ellsbury is sure to get traded.

[Bellhorn04]

Pedey and Gonzo are futility personified right now...and they are our 2 and 3 hitters and play every day. Could be a problem.

[SoxSport]

Pedey and Gonzo are futility personified right now...and they are our 2 and 3 hitters and play every day. Could be a problem.

 

I don't know why they were 2-3 in the batting order tonite. Didn't they score 15 runs with Nava-Kalish 1-2?

[jung]

V saying that he thinks Pedey is back to healthy again???? Honestly I thought his bat looked slow tonight....I really thought he looked like a guy that was physically struggling with his swing tonight worse than I have seen from him on other nights with this damn thumb thing.

 

Maybe he is fine....that is what V says.

[SoxSport]

Aviles tried to hit a four run homer with one man on. We needed a hit there mike. This game would look much different at 3-1 and one out and one on.

 

Aviles loves to try to pull outside pitches. That's why his OBP is south of .300.

[Bellhorn04]

Pedey and Gonzo have one home run between them in June.

[FredLynn]

Unbelievable. We should have won that game given the pitching matchup.

[FredLynn]

Jurrjens was 13-6 with a 2.96 ERA last year...his s***** numbers this year probably injury-related. Bad timing for us apparently.

 

He has sucked all year and sucked in the minors when they sent him down too. No excuses for this one.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Lester's FIP is 3.52.

 

I'd be furious in frustration if I were him.

[Bellhorn04]

The offensive outburst against the Marlins was nice, but overall the offense has sucked for the month of June. The team slugging pct. for June is down to about .400.

[jung]

It is still about who you face and when you face them. This was the first game this month where they really embarrassed themselves. The starting pitching has been mediocre all season long...not great, with many good moments, many truly unspectacular, mediocre performances and a few terrible moments.

 

As for the offense, they have many good hitters but few smart hitters and that has plagued them all season. They pile on the runs when their inherent physical talents are allowed to show through but tend to be unable to buy a run in tight games against good to very good pitching. They fail to even mount a challenge to a good pitching performance. As a result we have a tough time coming out on the winning end of these 4-1 or 3-2 contests.

 

These are generally contests against teams that feature good to great pitching and weak hitting. So these are contests that tend to suggest that we have a weak offense but ignores the fact that the teams we are playing have weak offenses that we don't control. Giving up 3-5 runs against these weak hitting teams just does not get it done.

 

I do agree that this was a game where having guys like Pedey and Agons up in the order like they were tonight is just a mistake. Keep them in the lineup if you must but for crying out loud, not up that high in the order until they are hitting again.

[Bellhorn04]

He has sucked all year and sucked in the minors when they sent him down too. No excuses for this one.

 

Not saying there are excuses for putting up one run, but this guy has a career 3.5 ERA. He has had success at the major league level. Let's see how he does his next few starts against other teams.

[a700hitter]

Not saying there are excuses for putting up one run' date=' but this guy has a career 3.5 ERA. He has had success at the major league level. Let's see how he does his next few starts against other teams.[/quote']Maybe we turned him around.

[iortiz]

Damn!...We lost a great opportunity to climb in the division, anyway...let's go for the next 2!

 

Let's go Sox!

[a700hitter]

I am waiting for Pedroia to break out any day. Gonzo is a complete mystery.

[Station 13]

I am waiting for Pedroia to break out any day.

 

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Everybody is.

[Youk Of The Nation]

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The Forbidden Zone was once a paradise. Your breed made a desert of it, ages ago!

[jung]

If Pedey is back to 100% which is what V is saying I guess, that is the best Sox news I have had in awhile.

[mvp 78]

If Pedey is back to 100% which is what V is saying I guess' date=' that is the best Sox news I have had in awhile.[/quote']

 

The good news is he's healthy AND still sucking?

[Bellhorn04]

I saw Pedroia on the bench a couple of games ago with nothing covering his head, and I noticed an unnerving resemblance to Les Grossman.

 

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[TutGadol]

Is the game tonight going to start on time? I'd hate to wake up again to find the game one hour away from beginning.

[NC Sox Fan]

Is the game tonight going to start on time? I'd hate to wake up again to find the game one hour away from beginning.

 

Chances of rain in Boston tonight are low. Game should start on time.

 

As long as the offense shows up tonight, we should be in good shape.