We lost the Reddick trade

[Dojji]

Have you guys seen Reddick's numbers with the Athletics this year? .864 OPS with 11 HR's.

 

Man, all I can do when I look at our own outfield mess is sit here and think "Boy, we could have used that guy." Meanwhile Sweeney has returned to earth -- not a bad player, but no match for what Reddick has done for Oakland -- and we haven't even seen Bailey debut yet, and at this point we can't guarantee him the closer's job back since Aceves has been lights out since his bad first couple games.

 

I'm not sue I want to gainsay the thought process behind the trade, and it's still not as bad as Masterson and 2 other talented pitchers for a DH masquerading as a catcher, but man, would anyone else really rather have Reddick than Sweeney and Bailey right now?

[MANNYHOF24]

Have you guys seen Reddick's numbers with the Athletics this year? .864 OPS with 11 HR's.

 

Man, all I can do when I look at our own outfield mess is sit here and think "Boy, we could have used that guy." Meanwhile Sweeney has returned to earth -- not a bad player, but no match for what Reddick has done for Oakland -- and we haven't even seen Bailey debut yet, and at this point we can't guarantee him the closer's job back since Aceves has been lights out since his bad first couple games.

 

I'm not sue I want to gainsay the thought process behind the trade, and it's still not as bad as Masterson and 2 other talented pitchers for a DH masquerading as a catcher, but man, would anyone else really rather have Reddick than Sweeney and Bailey right now?

 

Far too early to declare this one either way.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Are we serious here?? It's been 44 games and we're already determining the outcome of the trade?? How about we hang tight until Bailey makes some appearances.

 

Oye.

[User Name]

It's May 25th.

 

Let me guess, even with his OBP issues and extreme streakiness you were a staunch Reddick supporter, so now here you are, ready to rub in everyone's face how awesome he's been over less than two months in Oakland.

 

It's too early to evaluate the outcome of the trade.

[a700hitter]

I think it is proving to be a mistake. Reddick has a very live bat. I've said it before that the ball jumps off his bat. When he is going well, he looks like a young star. His problem has been consistency. Maybe the consistency issue is the reason why he never had a lot of trade value. Other teams have looked at and asked about other Sox prospects much more than Reddick. He was a guy who might never have amounted to anything more than a bench OFer. On the other hand, if he could find consistency, he could be a starting OFer and possibly an All Star. Did they sell low on him? That's hard to say, because he never had a lot of market value and his pedigree didn't indicate otherwise. If they had moved one of the more highly touted guys like Kallish or Lavarnway, they are not sure fire successes either, but the Sox would have gotten more in return than a sore armed pitcher and an OFer with no power. They opted to keep the guys with more trade value and now it is turning out bad for them, because Kallish is still injured and Lavarnway is still in the minors and Reddick is coming into his own. It's hard to second guess them on this, but then again, they get paid a lot of money to figure out who will make it and who will be a bust.

[mvp 78]

It's May 25th.

 

Let me guess, even with his OBP issues and extreme streakiness you were a staunch Reddick supporter, so now here you are, ready to rub in everyone's face how awesome he's been over less than two months in Oakland.

 

It's too early to evaluate the outcome of the trade.

 

Typical Dojji, forever holding a candle for Sox prospects so that he can say I told you so.

 

Bard = SSS

Reddick = we blew it

 

Really? Talk about picking and choosing your battles...

[NCPack2889]

Have you guys seen Reddick's numbers with the Athletics this year? .864 OPS with 11 HR's.

 

Man, all I can do when I look at our own outfield mess is sit here and think "Boy, we could have used that guy." Meanwhile Sweeney has returned to earth -- not a bad player, but no match for what Reddick has done for Oakland -- and we haven't even seen Bailey debut yet, and at this point we can't guarantee him the closer's job back since Aceves has been lights out since his bad first couple games.

 

I'm not sue I want to gainsay the thought process behind the trade, and it's still not as bad as Masterson and 2 other talented pitchers for a DH masquerading as a catcher, but man, would anyone else really rather have Reddick than Sweeney and Bailey right now?

 

Bailey is the closer when he is healthy. There's no question about that. I think we should wait until we see what he can do before we can rule on this trade.

[Station 13]

Bailey is the closer when he is healthy. There's no question about that. I think we should wait until we see what he can do before we can rule on this trade.

 

Bailey should NEVER EVER close here after yet another injury to wipeout half of his season.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Way too many components of this move to analyze now. They got Bailey because he's cost controlled for this year and the following two. Sweeney has also hit well and is only 27. Finally one of the most important components of the deal was the bet that Kalish was going to be a better player overall than Reddick which I still think is a distinct possibility

[jung]

Mickey Mouse with an OF glove on might look appealing at this point given the number of injuries the Sox have suffered. In fact I might have seen Mickey running around our outfield with his ears stuffed in his hat and NAVA printed on the back of his shirt.:D Seriously anybody reading my posts knows I like the kid.

 

However I really cannot say that the trade is a failure from the Sox perspective at this point. This one will definitely take more time before the jury comes in.

 

You could have made the point about Bailey's injury issues before the trade was made but you could not guess that the Sox would be on their third set of OF's by game 35-36 of the season.

[Dojji]

You could guess that we'd have issues in right field. Crawford's health was a known concern, the fact that it went as bad as it possibly could have doesn't mean you couldn't have predicted that there'd be an issue there. Balancing that, Ross and Sweeney were playing over their respective heads before they got hurt, that could have turned out a lot worse for us. The only real surprise was Ellsbury, and he had no imapct on right field.

 

We basically traded away a useful puzzle piece at a time when their outfield was in total flux. You don't have to know exactly how this did go wrong, to see how it could have.

[AGomREDSOX15]

Reddick sucks he would not have 11HR thus far with the Sox

[mvp 78]

Bailey should NEVER EVER close here after yet another injury to wipeout half of his season.

 

Ells should never play CF and leadoff after another injury to wipeout half of the season.

[User Name]

Ells should never play CF and leadoff after another injury to wipeout half of the season.

 

Aces.

[Elktonnick]

Reddick wasn't appreciated here because he is a defensive liability especailly in right field in Fenway. Did you see his play the last time at Fenway when he was with the A's. I don't think much of Cherrington as a GM but he gets a pass on this one. The Sox couldn't foresee that they would have 7 outfielders on the DL at the same time. Yes Reddick is putting up some good numbers now but he is streaky. He did so with the Sox. Given his past history and his defensive shortcomings, I don't think it was a bad deal

[FredLynn]

Bailey is the closer when he is healthy. There's no question about that. I think we should wait until we see what he can do before we can rule on this trade.

 

Whats the matter with you? You don't think its fair to compare a trade the pits a position player on a hot streak to one who hasn't thrown a pitch for his team yet?

[a700hitter]

Whats the matter with you? You don't think its fair to compare a trade the pits a position player on a hot streak to one who hasn't thrown a pitch for his team yet?

I guess if he never throws a pitch for us that we will never be able to evaluate the trade.

[Dojji]

Whats the matter with you? You don't think its fair to compare a trade the pits a position player on a hot streak to one who hasn't thrown a pitch for his team yet?

 

How about the fact that our inability to get Bailey onto the field impacts the analysisof the trade all by itself?

 

How about that little bit?

 

You can't just dismiss that part. Bailey having apparently a preexisting injury is a facet of how this trade fell out and deserves attention all by itself.

[FredLynn]

How about the fact that our inability to get Bailey onto the field impacts the analysisof the trade all by itself?

 

How about that little bit?

 

You can't just dismiss that part. Bailey having apparently a preexisting injury is a facet of how this trade fell out and deserves attention all by itself.

 

You're right. Its pretty clear to me that Bailey is never going to see the mound at Fenway and that Reddick is going to keep hitting nearly .900 OPS. No doubt about it. After 44 games its time to make a decision about this trade, once and for all. Hell, I am surprised it took so long for us to decide.

[seabeachfred]

Reddick wasn't appreciated here because he is a defensive liability especailly in right field in Fenway. Did you see his play the last time at Fenway when he was with the A's. I don't think much of Cherrington as a GM but he gets a pass on this one. The Sox couldn't foresee that they would have 7 outfielders on the DL at the same time. Yes Reddick is putting up some good numbers now but he is streaky. He did so with the Sox. Given his past history and his defensive shortcomings' date=' I don't think it was a bad deal[/quote']

 

If we could just get Ryan Kalish healthy at long last, you wouldn't hear diddly squat about Reddick. Ryan is a much better player, more disciplined, a better fielder, and more moxie in the lineup. We never should have sent him out last y ear and put RX Drew in that lineup. Perhaps if he had been with us from the start he might not have gotten injured any more than Ellsbury would have had idiot Epstink not forced his move to LF before the 2010 season to, get this, SAVE HIS LEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rdsxmbnt]

How about the fact that our inability to get Bailey onto the field impacts the analysisof the trade all by itself?

 

How about that little bit?

 

You can't just dismiss that part. Bailey having apparently a preexisting injury is a facet of how this trade fell out and deserves attention all by itself.

 

He collided with another player and injured his thumb, that's called a fluke injury.

[a700hitter]

He collided with another player and injured his thumb' date=' that's called a fluke injury.[/quote']I get jostled harder on the subway everyday than the collision suffered by Bailey. I would term that collision as casual or incidental contact.

[jung]

I get jostled harder on the subway everyday than the collision suffered by Bailey. I would term that collision as casual or incidental contact.

 

Lets face it....Bailey mostly tripped over his own two feet over there at 1st and hurt himself in a meaningless ST game...stupid...stupid....stupid....should be a perfectly fit for this team.

[NCPack2889]

Whats the matter with you? You don't think its fair to compare a trade the pits a position player on a hot streak to one who hasn't thrown a pitch for his team yet?

 

That's not what I said. I said that it's too hasty to draw any final conclusions on the trade with just two months of data.

[SoxSport]

It's possible the turning point of the season came on the decision to go outside for a closer to replace Pap

and convert Bard to a starter. Logic said Bard should replace Pap. They tried to cut corners and save money by trading for a cheap closer and moving a cheap reliever to starter. It was all about money.

[SoxSport]

Lets face it....Bailey mostly tripped over his own two feet over there at 1st and hurt himself in a meaningless ST game...stupid...stupid....stupid....should be a perfectly fit for this team.

 

 

 

This looks like a dysfunctional team right now. They have to bench a hot Middlebrooks to get some playing time for Youkilis.

[jung]

Well so far Youk has done pretty well since coming back. It is really to early to tell if this is just a few lucky swings or if he is actually going to come back to being the youk we have seen in the past...just to early to tell. I am encouraged by the fact that Youk is making smarter plate appearances than he was making before being injured which is not to say that WMB was making poor plate appearances. The thing is that there are so few Sox hitters making smart plate appearances that even one more or one less makes a difference as far as pitch count and how many good pitches these guys get to see.

 

I should point out that I was one of the guys that had his doubts about Youk coming back and like I said it is still to early to tell but at least he is not swinging the way he was just before going on the DL.

[Station 13]

Reddick just homered again, 12th now. Live bat and good defense, a cannon arm to boot.

[jung]

I could be wrong but i think the choice from the Sox side to get Bailey would have been Kalish or Reddick...Kalish looks to be a way more promising player. I am inclined to think Reddick will cool off. Remember he came up and started out for us like a house afire and then what?????

[a700hitter]

I could be wrong but i think the choice from the Sox side to get Bailey would have been Kalish or Reddick...Kalish looks to be a way more promising player. I am inclined to think Reddick will cool off. Remember he came up and started out for us like a house afire and then what?????

Consistency has been his problem.