How about Daniel Bard so far?

[BornToRun]

The armchair GM's know better. However' date=' since Dice-K is about ready, they are right about moving him to the BP.[/quote']

 

I'm in favor of shuttling Dan back to the pen but the people here act as if the FO has no idea what they're doing when the facts are that if we on a forum thought about what to do with this team, the odds are that they have already considered it.

[User Name]

I'm in favor of shuttling Dan back to the pen but the people here act as if the FO has no idea what they're doing when the facts are that if we on a forum thought about what to do with this team' date=' the odds are that they have already considered it.[/quote']

 

Nah, armchair GM's know better.

[Bellhorn04]

His performance against Det & Bal were actually worse than his perfrormance against Cle and Philly. So in a matter of speaking Bard has been going backwards over the past 5 starts.

 

How was the performance against Detroit a step backward? The consensus here was that it was a step forward.

[mvp 78]

I'm in favor of shuttling Dan back to the pen but the people here act as if the FO has no idea what they're doing when the facts are that if we on a forum thought about what to do with this team' date=' the odds are that they have already considered it.[/quote']

 

That's unpossible.

[OregonBostonian]

Bard has all three of his minor-league options remaining because he hasn't been in the minor leagues since the Red Sox placed him on the 40-man roster. But because more than three years have elapsed since Bard made his major-league debut, he would have to clear Optional Assignment Waivers.

 

If I am not mistaken, the way the Optional Assignment Waiver works, if he were claimed the Sox could revoke the option and could continue to use the optional assignment waiver through the current waiver period which started on the 31st day of the 2012 season and ends in August as I recall.

 

It is generally understood by general managers that a player on optional assignment waivers will not be claimed by another team. Bard might be attractive enough to prompt another team to break the gentleman's agreement.

 

However, the Sox can simply revoke the waiver if Bard were claimed which is why ML league teams don't break the gentlemen's agreement not to claim a player from Optional Assignment Waivers. It is a waste of time since the team can continue to use the Optional Assignment Waiver on the same player through the current waiver period. It just becomes a big circle jerk for the team trying to claim the player. Also if a player is claimed and his team does not revoke the waiver, the claiming team has to pay the player's entire salary.

 

Good post!

 

Thanks!

[OregonBostonian]

I'm in favor of shuttling Dan back to the pen but the people here act as if the FO has no idea what they're doing when the facts are that if we on a forum thought about what to do with this team' date=' the odds are that they have already considered it.[/quote']

 

Not to be a J A, but why do you keep saying this. If we all let our opinions be dictated by the conventional wisdom of the FO, what would be the point of having a fan forum.

 

It just seems that you are obsessed with telling us that the FO already thought of it. No problem! I'm sure they have, 10 ways to Sunday........ BUT! If I'm not mistaken, we would have pretty much nothing to talk about if we didn't kick these things around????

 

No offense, but your point is lost on me?

[User Name]

You're new to the board. That's why you don't get it. And you are kind of being a "J A" since you could have sent a PM or presented the question in another manner.

 

He's not saying "don't talk about things" but continually calling the FO "stupid" and "inept" and saying they "can't think of things" we come up with here while sitting on our respective couches is kinda ridiculous.

 

I'm not trying to be mean to you, i just don't see the reason for calling out a member in such a manner.

[OregonBostonian]

Nah' date=' armchair GM's know better.[/quote']

 

Look Dick! That's about enough out of you!

[User Name]

Read the above post please.

[OregonBostonian]

Look Dick! That's about enough out of you!

 

Sorry about the double meaning! Just messin! I get it, but many simply want to float ideas. I get that some simply want to bash the FO. Of course we don't see the whole picture, so we are left to our opinions. I think most are just venting when they see things, that on their face, are inexplicable.

 

Like you Dick....... You were inexplicable. So brilliant, yet so......... ????

[OregonBostonian]

Read the above post please.

 

I think I quoted the wrong guy

[OregonBostonian]

I'm in favor of shuttling Dan back to the pen but the people here act as if the FO has no idea what they're doing when the facts are that if we on a forum thought about what to do with this team' date=' the odds are that they have already considered it.[/quote']

 

It's BornToRun I was originally quoting

[a700hitter]

Sorry about the double meaning! Just messin! I get it, but many simply want to float ideas. I get that some simply want to bash the FO. Of course we don't see the whole picture, so we are left to our opinions. I think most are just venting when they see things, that on their face, are inexplicable.

 

Like you Dick....... You were inexplicable. So brilliant, yet so......... ????

Some people find it easier to attack the poster rather than the post. It's very unnecessary. As you say, this is a place to float ideas and vent. I don't know why that upsets some people.

[User Name]

Sorry about the double meaning! Just messin! I get it, but many simply want to float ideas. I get that some simply want to bash the FO. Of course we don't see the whole picture, so we are left to our opinions. I think most are just venting when they see things, that on their face, are inexplicable.

 

Like you Dick....... You were inexplicable. So brilliant, yet so......... ????

 

Put smiley faces or some other thing indicative of not being serious so that others don't take offense. And don't listen to posters like a700 who love busting balls then play the victim.

 

You can say whatever you want, whenever you want to. It's just that some wanna act like their knowledge is "superior" to everyone else, including the team. That creates friction.

 

Enjoy your posting, for you are a gentleman and a scholar.

[OregonBostonian]

Some people find it easier to attack the poster rather than the post. It's very unnecessary. As you say' date=' this is a place to float ideas and vent. I don't know why that upsets some people.[/quote']

 

Ahhh! Go ahead! Make my day!

 

Love your movies man

[OregonBostonian]

Put smiley faces or some other thing indicative of not being serious so that others don't take offense. And don't listen to posters like a700 who love busting balls then play the victim.

 

You can say whatever you want, whenever you want to. It's just that some wanna act like their knowledge is "superior" to everyone else, including the team. That creates friction.

 

Enjoy your posting, for you are a gentleman and a scholar.

 

Dick! Seriously buddy! Chill out! I put smiley f'n faces on to let you know it was all being said in a friendly way.

 

Lighten up! I'm seriously tempted to use a frowny face!

[User Name]

Dick! Seriously buddy! Chill out! I put smiley f'n faces on to let you know it was all being said in a friendly way.

 

Lighten up! I'm seriously tempted to use a frowny face!

 

If you dare use a frowny face, i will be obligated to demote you from "Gentleman & Scholar" to either "Gentleman" or "Scholar".

 

Neither of us wants that.

[OregonBostonian]

I'm about to go all emotocon on Dick! and I'm a Republican. I actually cried when you died pal.

[User Name]

Do you have a "God hates Dems" sticker on your car?

[OregonBostonian]

If you dare use a frowny face, i will be obligated to demote you from "Gentleman & Scholar" to either "Gentleman" or "Scholar".

 

Neither of us wants that.

 

I don't want to get on your enemies list. We all know how that goes

[User Name]

I don't want to get on your enemies list. We all know how that goes

 

Hey i'm just trying to see which side of the bridge we're standing on here.

[OregonBostonian]

Hey i'm just trying to see which side of the bridge we're standing on here.

 

On the Right side Dick! Just like you. LOL (p.s. the hazards of raising teens! texting things like LOL & such)

 

yes! I hate myself when I do it, but it becomes a BAD HABIT

[User Name]

On the Right side Dick! Just like you. LOL (p.s. the hazards of raising teens! texting things like LOL & such)

 

yes! I hate myself when I do it, but it becomes a BAD HABIT

 

I'm not a fan of texting because of that. I'd just rather call or i use Swype to spell out words correctly. If you have an android i highly recommend it.

[a700hitter]

Dick! Seriously buddy! Chill out! I put smiley f'n faces on to let you know it was all being said in a friendly way.

 

Lighten up! I'm seriously tempted to use a frowny face!

Dick says that he doesn't listen to me because I love bustin balls and playing victim. I have that jackass on ignore, so I don't know what he says unless someone quotes him, but he constantly takes shots at me. What a major jackass!

[User Name]

You see what i mean my text buddy? Some people huh?

[a700hitter]

^ Ignored.

[User Name]

As my favorite Yankee fan Jacksonian always says: "Ignore is for pussies."

[FredLynn]

Dick! Seriously buddy! Chill out! I put smiley f'n faces on to let you know it was all being said in a friendly way.

 

Lighten up! I'm seriously tempted to use a frowny face!

 

Hey Oregon: don't take Username too seriously. He admits that he likes to stir the pot here. Don't fall for it. Keep it level. User is OK, he's just a born agitator-the only one on this board.

[OregonBostonian]

Hey Oregon: don't take Username too seriously. He admits that he likes to stir the pot here. Don't fall for it. Keep it level. User is OK' date=' he's just a born agitator-the only one on this board.[/quote']

 

No worries! I don't take anybody that seriously. Don't get me wrong. I like it when guys mix it up. To a limit. Pizzing matches can certainly get old, but some relatively good natured back & forth is good stuff. Tricky Dick never scared me. Just misunderstood So long as you weren't on the enemies list. No! Seriously. I love mixing it up. We Bostonians come from long lines of over-reactors. We get heated, but then it's over. Too many guys take this stuff WAY TOO SERIOUSLY! Don't get me wrong. I'm as passionate as they come about the Sox! Especially living in exile out in Oregon, where it's all white bread! BRUTAL!! Don't have kids where you're not prepared to live the rest of your life!!!! The sox bring me home for 162+ days / year. The Pats, B's, & C's help with the rest of the year. BUT the Sox are it! They are home! So if I occasionally go off, & get a bit overpassionate? Please excuse me! Probably missing home.

 

Nice to meet you all!

[OregonBostonian]

Back to the issue....

 

Bard simply has to work it out! Otherwise, we have some MAJOR LEAGUE ISSUES!

 

Bard? Just not cutting it!

Buch? Totally up in the air!!! Could easily go either way!

Lester? Still suffering from the Lackey Bad attitude syndrome! Simply has to shut the _ up & pitch! Get ANGER MANAGEMENT for _____ sake! Deal with it! Grow the ____ up! you're too good for this crap! Is crap ok on this board?

Beckett? Hope he keeps his head on all year!

Dubby? Loved the kid from the word go! I think the language barrier keeps him clean of the BS factor & trickle down ______ from Beckett / Lackey.

 

3 out of 5 are poor #5's right now.

 

Having said that..... Lester should get it together soon???? I hope!

Buch? Who knows? The kid is a head case!

Bard? Too smart for this UNION, I'm entitled BS! Somebody read the kid his press clipping too early! You gotta EARN a starting spot! Could be the problem? HE came in wanting to save his presious arm for a long & storied career. Despite what was implied at the press briefing. I think HE chose to notch it down to 92????

 

Just my opinion. I'm not buying the implications.