2011 Trade Deadline Thread

[MNSoxChief102]

His hit rates are 5.2% lower than they should be and his home run rates are 54% higher than they should be. Even it all out and he'd have an ERA around 3.50. Of course that's in Oakland so it's probably more like a 3.80 in Fenway.

 

Considering who he'll be replacing (Miller et al), I'll take it.

[AtWork]

Considering who he'll be replacing (Miller et al)' date=' I'll take it.[/quote']

 

I think he'll be fun to watch, he's striking out over a batter an inning. He probably won't go very deep into games though.

[example1]

I like getting Harden more than I would have liked Bedard. He can be filthy.

[MNSoxChief102]

I think he'll be fun to watch' date=' he's striking out over a batter an inning. He probably won't go very deep into games though.[/quote']

 

I can live with that.

[BornToRun]

Think we're still out there for an outfielder or lefty reliever?

[MNSoxChief102]

Think we're still out there for an outfielder or lefty reliever?

 

Survey says.... YES

[Jasonbay44]

Think we're still out there for an outfielder or lefty reliever?

 

I think we are definitely still looking to acquire an outfielder.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I think he'll be fun to watch' date=' he's striking out over a batter an inning. He probably won't go very deep into games though.[/quote']

 

He's averaging right at 6 innings per outing. If he can give us 6 IP, 2-3 ER, we'll win a lot of games with him on the mound.

[example1]

I heard' date=' pure speculation, that the PTBNL is Workman.[/quote']

 

Wouldn't be shocking. Can't be officially traded because he hasn't been there a year, high upside but not spectacular pitcher (yet). Seems exactly like a Beane move.

 

Now, the question is, when Workman starts to put it together in 3 years, who will Beane trade him for then? It's a revolving door of prospects there in Oakland.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think he'll be fun to watch' date=' he's striking out over a batter an inning. He probably won't go very deep into games though.[/quote']

 

Good lineups can work him a bit, but his stuff is unquestioned, and if he settles into your #3 spot (in Buchholz' absence) then there are worse out there. If he gets his bearings and starts throwing strikes more frequently, he has the stuff to be a #2

[BornToRun]

Wouldn't be shocking. Can't be officially traded because he hasn't been there a year, high upside but not spectacular pitcher (yet). Seems exactly like a Beane move.

 

Now, the question is, when Workman starts to put it together in 3 years, who will Beane trade him for then? It's a revolving door of prospects there in Oakland.

 

Must suck to be an A's fan.

[AtWork]

Think we're still out there for an outfielder or lefty reliever?

 

We're definitely still looking.

[jacksonianmarch]

Wouldn't be shocking. Can't be officially traded because he hasn't been there a year, high upside but not spectacular pitcher (yet). Seems exactly like a Beane move.

 

Now, the question is, when Workman starts to put it together in 3 years, who will Beane trade him for then? It's a revolving door of prospects there in Oakland.

 

If the PTNBL is Workman, then this is a good deal for both sides. Beane can continue his fascination with corner IFers who can take a pitch but have limited power and the sox can get an insurance policy in their rotation. Workman hasnt been great, but he has a big league arm and was just drafted last yr. He's the prize of this deal if he works out

[MNSoxChief102]

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-royals/2011/7/30/2306481/rich-harden-bolsters-red-sox-rotation-while-not-costing-much-of

 

The Boston Red Sox may have silently pulled off the best deal of the MLB trade deadline, unless the player to be named later is significant. That’s because the pieces of the trade between the Red Sox and Athletics is one-sided with what we know now. In the reported deal, the A’s are sending Rich Harden to the Red Sox for minor league 1B Lars Anderson.

 

On the surface, Anderson seems a good catch. He’s been among Baseball America’s Top 100 prospects the last three seasons. He was No. 87 coming into the 2010 season, but he’s been lackluster both in 2010 and 2011 at the AAA level. Certainly he’s put up serviceable numbers with .261/.362/.420 line this year that’s nearly identical to last year, but it’s not a cornerstone first baseman like you’d expect.

 

With almost 1,000 at bats at the AAA level, it’s clear that Anderson is not the bright future first baseman that everyone believed him to be back in 2009. And now that Adrian Gonzalez is firmly established as the BoSox cornerstone player, Anderson simply has no place to go in Boston. So in essence, Theo Epstein flipped a player he couldn’t use anyway for a guy who is one of the best strikeout pitchers in baseball — health issues or not.

 

The Red Sox just acquired a dangerous arm for their postseason rotation in exchange for some AAA fare once celebrated. That’s an incredible trade any way you slice it, so here’s believing the A’s are getting something substantive later on with this one. For now, it’s an absolute steal.

[SoxFanForsyth]

If Harden can get back together with Curt Young, he could be fantastic. He was K'ing 10+/9 back in his glory days at Oakland. If Young can get him back into that pitcher, that's a fantastic rotation.

[example1]

Good lineups can work him a bit' date=' but his stuff is unquestioned, and if he settles into your #3 spot (in Buchholz' absence) then there are worse out there. If he gets his bearings and starts throwing strikes more frequently, he has the stuff to be a #2[/quote']

 

Wonder why the Yankees didn't think of getting Harden for a bucket o'balls? I guess they prefer risking it with crappy starters down the stretch.

[SoxFanForsyth]

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-royals/2011/7/30/2306481/rich-harden-bolsters-red-sox-rotation-while-not-costing-much-of

 

The Boston Red Sox may have silently pulled off the best deal of the MLB trade deadline, unless the player to be named later is significant. That’s because the pieces of the trade between the Red Sox and Athletics is one-sided with what we know now. In the reported deal, the A’s are sending Rich Harden to the Red Sox for minor league 1B Lars Anderson.

 

On the surface, Anderson seems a good catch. He’s been among Baseball America’s Top 100 prospects the last three seasons. He was No. 87 coming into the 2010 season, but he’s been lackluster both in 2010 and 2011 at the AAA level. Certainly he’s put up serviceable numbers with .261/.362/.420 line this year that’s nearly identical to last year, but it’s not a cornerstone first baseman like you’d expect.

 

With almost 1,000 at bats at the AAA level, it’s clear that Anderson is not the bright future first baseman that everyone believed him to be back in 2009. And now that Adrian Gonzalez is firmly established as the BoSox cornerstone player, Anderson simply has no place to go in Boston. So in essence, Theo Epstein flipped a player he couldn’t use anyway for a guy who is one of the best strikeout pitchers in baseball — health issues or not.

 

The Red Sox just acquired a dangerous arm for their postseason rotation in exchange for some AAA fare once celebrated. That’s an incredible trade any way you slice it, so here’s believing the A’s are getting something substantive later on with this one. For now, it’s an absolute steal.

 

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[BornToRun]

Yankees are so f***ed. Only guy out there is Bedard and he just got lit the f*** up. NYYfans is thinking Kershaw if anybody is in the mood for some lulz.

[jacksonianmarch]

Wonder why the Yankees didn't think of getting Harden for a bucket o'balls? I guess they prefer risking it with crappy starters down the stretch.

 

or starters who have been better than anything you guys are throwing out there sans Beckett and Lester

[AtWork]

Yankees are so f***ed. Only guy out there is Bedard and he just got lit the f*** up. NYYfans is thinking Kershaw if anybody is in the mood for some lulz.

 

Bedard would still be a pretty good consolation prize.

[BornToRun]

Bedard would still be a pretty good consolation prize.

 

Still, I don't think they were counting on this confluence of recent events.

[yankees228]

Yankees are so f***ed. Only guy out there is Bedard and he just got lit the f*** up. NYYfans is thinking Kershaw if anybody is in the mood for some lulz.

 

This can't be said enough times ... their rotation is not in the greatest of shape, but the team with the third best record in baseball and the best run differential is not 'so f***ed'.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The more I look into this trade, the more I'm excited about it. If Harden stays healthy, he's an absolute stud.

[example1]

or starters who have been better than anything you guys are throwing out there sans Beckett and Lester

 

... burn.

 

I would much rather go into the playoffs with the Sox rotation than the Yankees rotation, and so would you. It is just a matter of time until Colon collapses, Hughes is a BP pitcher right now and Burnett is completely unreliable.

 

Honestly, I would rather have Aceves as a middle-man than any of those guys.

[AtWork]

Still' date=' I don't think they were counting on this confluence of recent events.[/quote']

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were counting on having Cliff Lee and Phil Hughes being their number 2 and 3 starters

[SoxFanForsyth]

... burn.

 

I would much rather go into the playoffs with the Sox rotation than the Yankees rotation, and so would you. It is just a matter of time until Colon collapses, Hughes is a BP pitcher right now and Burnett is completely unreliable.

 

Honestly, I would rather have Aceves as a middle-man than any of those guys.

 

This times a million.

 

I'd take Beckett, Lester, and Buchholz over any pitcher that the Yankees have not named CC. And if Harden is healthy, I'd take him too.

 

A rotation of CC - Burnett - Colon is going to get torched in a short series.

[SoxSport]

A healthy Harden may be better than Jiminez. But he's rarely healthy.

[MNSoxChief102]

Forgot Anderson is originally from NorCal. Went to high school in Sacramento. Should be happy he's headed home, not to mention that he'll have a real shot at playing out there.

[AtWork]

This can't be said enough times ... their rotation is not in the greatest of shape' date=' but the team with the third best record in baseball and the best run differential is not 'so f***ed'.[/quote']

 

You're absolutely right. I hope the OP meant that the Yankees are f***ed as far as catching us in the division but I'm not so sure.

[jacksonianmarch]

... burn.

 

I would much rather go into the playoffs with the Sox rotation than the Yankees rotation, and so would you. It is just a matter of time until Colon collapses, Hughes is a BP pitcher right now and Burnett is completely unreliable.

 

Honestly, I would rather have Aceves as a middle-man than any of those guys.

 

It was a matter of time in April. He still hasnt collapsed, so if you hope in one hand and s*** in another, my guess is you'll end up with a handful of s***. Garcia has been good, a lot better than expected. Burnett has been better but still is Burnett and we have CC. Our rotation isnt amazing, but it's been getting it done this yr