2011 Trade Deadline Thread

[BornToRun]

If he gets hurt ONCE, I am flying to Boston myself and kicking his ass.

[example1]

Lars isn't what he used to be but still has time to improve.

 

Lars never was what he could otherwise have been had he been what he could have become.

[AtWork]

8:15pm: The Red Sox are out on Willingham and still trying on Harden, according to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle (on Twitter).

[jacksonianmarch]

Billy Beane may have a reputation for being shrewd and the whole Moneyball thing (big fan' date=' here) but he makes some weird moves. I suspect he will give up Harden for a few players we care NOTHING about.[/quote']

 

If he's dealing him tonight, then he's getting a good haul. Harden thus far in 5 starts has 30K in 29.1IP and has a WHIP of 1.16. He faced the Yanks recently, and we ground him out of the game early due to plate discipline, but his stuff was filthy enough that we couldnt hit it

[example1]

Thats the problem though' date=' he is rarely ever healthy.[/quote']

 

But he's healthy now. At least he isn't coming back after knee problems TONIGHT (Bedard). He isn't a savior, but if he's healthy I'm pretty comfortable with him and Lackey competing for the 4th starter spot in the playoffs.

 

If he goes on a solid run, he can be really, really good.

[Flynnatic10]

Lars never was what he could otherwise have been had he been what he could have become.

 

I don't get the last part. Are you saying Lars never was what he could be and if he was he would be what he could?

[jacksonianmarch]

I wont be a hypocrite here. I think getting Harden is a good move. So if the Yankees get him, I'd be stoked. If the sox get him for peanuts, I'll be a little pissed

[BornToRun]

Harden is never healthy for long, that's the problem. I'd rather try my chances on Bedard or look elsewhere.

[jacksonianmarch]

In a health contest, I think Harden might beat Bedard by a hair

[AtWork]

Lars is hitting .296/.367/.571 with 6 home runs in the month of July. We should trade him now before he reverts back to a goofy looking singles hitter.

[example1]

If he's dealing him tonight' date=' then he's getting a good haul.[/b'] Harden thus far in 5 starts has 30K in 29.1IP and has a WHIP of 1.16. He faced the Yanks recently, and we ground him out of the game early due to plate discipline, but his stuff was filthy enough that we couldnt hit it

 

No he isn't. I bet I could list 10-15 prospects the Sox won't give up for him and they can still land him.

[AtWork]

Looks as if #Athletics & #RedSox closing in on a deal for Rich Harden tonight. That one also not "done!" #trades

 

Jayson Stark

[example1]

Harden is never healthy for long' date=' that's the problem. I'd rather try my chances on Bedard or look elsewhere.[/quote']

 

Elsewhere where? Jeremy Guthrie?

[jacksonianmarch]

No he isn't. I bet I could list 10-15 prospects the Sox won't give up for him and they can still land him.

 

Lets see. Kuroda is off the table. Bedard looked AWFUL in his return last night. Ubaldo just got dealt. Garza and Shields arent moving. Harden is probably the best starter still available with almost a full day to go to the deadline. He wont give him away unless he has to at the last minute. If he gets what he thinks is right tonight, he'll deal him

[BornToRun]

Elsewhere where? Jeremy Guthrie?

 

I have no clue, I just don't like the idea of Harden. The guy will go down, I'm sure of it.

[jacksonianmarch]

Elsewhere where? Jeremy Guthrie?

 

I would love to see Guthrie in pinstripes, but I highly doubt these two franchises work on a deal together

[Meh]

No he isn't. I bet I could list 10-15 prospects the Sox won't give up for him and they can still land him.

 

whats your offer then?

[AtWork]

BTW - Brian Bruney is pitching the White Sox right now in a full Santa Claus beard.

[boston22407]

Harden and Coco for Lars?

[Meh]

Harden and Coco for Lars?

 

I can't tell if you're being serious

[BornToRun]

Harden and Coco for Lars?

 

If we get Harden, an OF better be part of it.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I still can't believe the Tribe are trading Drew Pomeranz.

[jacksonianmarch]

If the sox are dealing for Harden, they're giving away at least 1 prospect with a big league future.

[example1]

Lets see. Kuroda is off the table. Bedard looked AWFUL in his return last night. Ubaldo just got dealt. Garza and Shields arent moving. Harden is probably the best starter still available with almost a full day to go to the deadline. He wont give him away unless he has to at the last minute. If he gets what he thinks is right tonight' date=' he'll deal him[/quote']

 

Harden is often injured, not that good, on a team going nowhere. Both sides could be happy without the Sox losing any of their most important prospects.

[AtWork]

I can't tell if you're being serious

 

Unfortunately, I think they are.

[example1]

If the sox are dealing for Harden' date=' they're giving away at least 1 prospect with a big league future.[/quote']

 

Like David Murphy, Kelly Shoppach or Brandon Moss?

[jacksonianmarch]

Harden is often injured' date=' not that good, on a team going nowhere. Both sides could be happy without the Sox losing any of their most important prospects.[/quote']

 

Yes, but if a deal gets done TONIGHT then Beane thinks he's getting someone with a big league future. If he is dealt TOMORROW around 4pm or so, then he's dumping him for what he can get

[AtWork]

Harden's stats this year are inflated by his 15+% HR/FB ratio. That is sure to go down in Fenway, one of the least friendly parks for home runs and his ERA will likely be more like his xFIP of 3.53.

[boston22407]

Many reports now that the #RedSox will get Rich Harden

 

http://twitter.com/#!/PeteAbe

[jacksonianmarch]

Like David Murphy' date=' Kelly Shoppach or Brandon Moss?[/quote']

 

My guess would be someone like Kyle Weiland, a guy who profiles as a back of the rotation pitcher without much future in Boston.