2011 Trade Deadline Thread

[AtWork]

He's still not Jon Lester.

 

Oh, of course not. Someone would have to be a huge homer to claim otherwise.

[MNSoxChief102]

Ubaldo is warming up in SD

 

http://twitter.com/#!/TroyRenck/status/97459443519848448

 

http://twitter.com/#!/TracyRingolsby/status/97459484204609537

[yankees228]

I don't think Bartolo Colon is going to slow down any time soon. All his peripherals are solid.

 

But anyone who thinks Freddy Garcia (4.12 xFIP), Burnett (5.95 ERA post-ASG last year and 4.83 ERA post-ASG this year) and Phil Hughes (no explanation needed) are better than anyone else's 3, 4 and 5 starters needs to put their pom poms back in their closet.

 

This is reasonable ... although I still think there's a strong possibility that Freddy Garcia can continue to have a decent amount of success against most AL teams (but not BOS).

[boston22407]

Hold everything---Contrary to reports, Jimenez headed to bullpen to start........Remember, I said Red Sox source said they're still "trying"

[suns]

What do the red sox have that could beat Pomeranz, White, and McBride? Please tell me you have something to beat that. I don't want to deal Pomeranz

[AtWork]

This is reasonable ... although I still think there's a strong possibility that Freddy Garcia can continue to have a decent amount of success against most AL teams (but not BOS).

 

It's possible, but like I pointed out yesterday his major league high LD%, his BABIP that's 0.75 points higher than his expected BABIP and his HR/FB% which is half his career average all suggest that he's been one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball.

[MNSoxChief102]

Guardians are playing "Where's Ubaldo?" right now.

[boston22407]

Guardians are playing "Where's Ubaldo?" right now.

 

[Divinity]

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[SoxSport]

Heyman is full of crap with his Yankee hype. Remember when he said AdGon wouldn't sign with the Red Sox?

 

Well, Jiminez is being traded to the Guardians--according to MLBtraderumors.com

 

That takes the heat off the Sox, and now they can go after Bedard or Harden, since Kuroda (thank heavens) is staying in LA.

[yankees228]

It's possible' date=' but like I pointed out yesterday his major league high LD%, his BABIP that's 0.75 points higher than his expected BABIP and his HR/FB% which is half his career average all suggest that he's been one of the luckiest pitchers in baseball.[/quote']

 

Yeah that regression could certainly happen, although we're running out of time. I think Freddy's repertoire is conducive to success against the average and weaker hitting teams. But if the Yankees make the playoffs, I'll have zero expectations for him.

[MNSoxChief102]

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[example1]

What do the red sox have that could beat Pomeranz' date=' White, and McBride? Please tell me you have something to beat that. I don't want to deal Pomeranz[/quote']

 

Some combination of Lavarnway, Weiland, Reddick and Ranaudo would probably be a start.

[AtWork]

Yeah that regression could certainly happen' date=' although we're running out of time. I think Freddy's repertoire is conducive to success against the average and weaker hitting teams. But if the Yankees make the playoffs, I'll have zero expectations for him.[/quote']

 

If I had to put money on whether Buchholz will return this year or Garcia will pitch well, I'd put money on the former.

[Dojji]

Weiland, Middlebrooks, Ranaudo, Lowrie, would be tempting.

[MNSoxChief102]

Some combination of Lavarnway' date=' Weiland, Reddick and Ranaudo would probably be a start.[/quote']

 

Yep. I'd give up Lavarnway, Ranaudo, Weiland, and something else.

[AtWork]

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Hahaha, perfect!

[Dojji]

Yep. I'd give up Lavarnway' date=' Ranaudo, Weiland, and something else.[/quote']

 

Middlebrooks is a high end prospect we can spare. He's got to be on the table here.

 

And *if* you think he's a catcher in the long run, what Lavarnway is doing is eye-opening.

[SoxSport]

That's 10 minutes old now. Latest is he's still in line to start and the deal is still ongoing

 

Yeah. the rumor is Hank Steinbrenner has offered his wife in the package. That's the Yankees for you.

[BornToRun]

Middlebrooks is a high end prospect we can spare. He's got to be on the table here.

What top prospects will we have left is this happens? Will our farm be godawful?

[MNSoxChief102]

"Red Sox haven't abandoned hopes of getting Jimenez, according to M-L source. "Crazy," the source said."

 

http://twitter.com/#!/GordonEdes/status/97461899121266688

[AtWork]

What top prospects will we have left is this happens? Will our farm be godawful?

 

Yup.

[MNSoxChief102]

What top prospects will we have left is this happens? Will our farm be godawful?

 

For a little while. It can be replenished. Theo has proven that time and time and time again.

 

We had a solid draft this year. We'll have one again next year.

[AtWork]

"Red Sox haven't abandoned hopes of getting Jimenez, according to M-L source. "Crazy," the source said."

 

http://twitter.com/#!/GordonEdes/status/97461899121266688

 

Probably not all that crazy considering he's warming up in the bullpen right now.

[SoxSport]

The Sox will go big time for King Felix or AdGon. Not for Jiminez.

[Dojji]

What top prospects will we have left is this happens? Will our farm be godawful?

 

If we lose Middlebrooks and Lavarnway, we won't have a lot of high end guys that are close, especially since Navarro was also in our top 10, which he eanred given his age and minor league performance.

 

We'll still have quite a bit of talent at AA and below, but the high end guys less than 18 months away will be negligible in both quality and quantity.

[SoxSport]

"Red Sox haven't abandoned hopes of getting Jimenez, according to M-L source. "Crazy," the source said."

 

http://twitter.com/#!/GordonEdes/status/97461899121266688

 

that has to mean Middlebrooks.

[MNSoxChief102]

The Sox will go big time for King Felix or AdGon. Not for Jiminez.

 

Perhaps. It's possible the Rockies are looking for top level talent AND positional value. Red Sox have that if they really want to deal.

[SoxSport]

If we lose Middlebrooks and Lavarnway, we won't have a lot of high end guys that are close, especially since Navarro was also in our top 10, which he eanred given his age and minor league performance.

 

We'll still have quite a bit of talent at AA and below, but the high end guys less than 18 months away will be negligible in both quality and quantity.

 

next year they'll have a new bunch of studs. they draft well.

 

they're also in a position to offer Lowrie now in this deal. Lowrie can hit in Colorado.

[SoxFanForsyth]

What top prospects will we have left is this happens? Will our farm be godawful?

 

Our farm is extremely strong in the lower minors, with the likes of Bogaerts, Brentz, Chiang, Cecchini, Vitek, Brandon Jacobs, etc.

 

The huge strength that the Red Sox have right now is that they are locked up at every position for years, if you count the combo of Reddick/Kalish and Iglesias. So they have a lot of spare parts. If you add Jimenez to the Sox, you could have your rotation set for the next 2-3 years as well.

 

Basically, if our farm gets a little depleted at the upper levels, it's not going to hurt as bad because we have young, strong talent at the MLB level locked up for years.