2011 Trade Deadline Thread

[SoxSport]

Why doubt Reddick's abilities? 66 AB with 3 HR and 17 RBI and 1.095 OPS. Sub-standard in the minors and wicked awesome in the majors.

 

I wouldn't want to give up Reddick (+ some more?) for a SP yet though. We need to see how Kalish does after his injury, if he ever freakin heals up.

 

Twice now Reddick has come up to the majors and "overachieved." He hit well in Boston a couple of years ago, and then funked out when demoted to AAA. Maybe it's an attitude thing. They should think twice about demoting him again. Either play him or trade him for value.

[a700hitter]

Cafardo at the Globe this morning is drumming up Reyes. He says think big. They may have the pieces

with Iglesias, Reddick et al., provided the Mets will deal Reyes. I don't think they will. Besides, the Red Sox are not a speed team. They still haven't figured out how to use two speed guys--much less three.

Theo picks these FAs like fruit off a tree, without much regard for chemistry and his manager's laid back, big-ball style.

 

So I don't know about Reyes. I do know they need another RHd bat in that lineup--to take some pressure off their LHd hitters. And it probably should reside in RF since Papi's ego would never allow a DH platoon. The latter could be Papi's undoing in Boston--besides a multi-year contract.

 

The other mention was the Yankees going after Jiminez. Figures they will definitely get another starter.

Age is a problem which may catch up with them this year (see Jeter, ARod).

 

Epstein can go in different directions. Most likely a RHd bat is the priority, as reported. But it really depends on what trade opportunities present themselves--what other teams want and what the Red Sox are willing to give up.

The only thing that I disagree with in this post is the Sox need to platoon at DH. Ortiz is hitting lefties better than most RH hitting options.

[boston22407]

Though Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd said he'll "listen to anything," he considers the possibility of trading Ubaldo Jimenez "not very likely."

"We will listen to anything, but the reality is that rumor is not very likely to take place,'' O'Dowd said. We wouldn't expect him to say anything else. Jimenez being dealt has been a longshot all along, but it's clear the Rockies aren't dismissing the possibility. The Yankees, Reds and Tigers have all been linked to the right-hander.

[boston22407]

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21120966/report-sox-no-rush-

[boston22407]

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that some teams are concerned about Heath Bell's declining strikeout rate.

Bell has seen his K/9 rate go from 10.6 the last two years to 6.6 this season, and although it hasn't hurt his effectiveness, it is a pretty alarming drop. His velocity isn't down much at all, though, so we're not especially concerned. The Phillies and Rangers appear to be the front-runners for his services at this point.

[SoxSport]

Though Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd said he'll "listen to anything," he considers the possibility of trading Ubaldo Jimenez "not very likely."

"We will listen to anything, but the reality is that rumor is not very likely to take place,'' O'Dowd said. We wouldn't expect him to say anything else. Jimenez being dealt has been a longshot all along, but it's clear the Rockies aren't dismissing the possibility. The Yankees, Reds and Tigers have all been linked to the right-hander.

 

Unless Jiminez has a physical problem, O'Dowd would be nuts to trade him. He's one of the young centerpieces out there.

[boston22407]

Ubaldo Jimenez wants to finish his career with the Rockies.

Jimenez is one of the hottest names being thrown around the hot stove right now, but the 27-year-old doesn't want to go anywhere. "As a player, you always want to be on the same team for your whole career," Jimenez said. "I'd like to finish my career here, but that's something you can't control. Baseball is a really good game, but there's a business side." Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd said Sunday that although he'll "listen to anything," he considers the possibility of trading Jimenez "not very likely." SI.com's Jon Heyman reported that at least 12 teams have contacted the Rockies regarding the right-hander's availability and also said that the Rockies would be interested in Yankees prospect Jesus Montero in a potential Jimenez deal

[SoxSport]

The only thing that I disagree with in this post is the Sox need to platoon at DH. Ortiz is hitting lefties better than most RH hitting options.

 

Papi is having a renaissance year--so far. But it's a suspiciously good year for a guy who has juiced up in the past with Manny. One of those asterisk contract years. I doubt it will translate into a long term contract for the money he wants.

 

He and Manny have had so many big hits in Boston you have to like him. But you don't have to trust him. If he has come back just from hard work and conditioning, more power to him. I just have my doubts. I think angel dust is still common in baseball.

[SoxSport]

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that some teams are concerned about Heath Bell's declining strikeout rate.

Bell has seen his K/9 rate go from 10.6 the last two years to 6.6 this season, and although it hasn't hurt his effectiveness, it is a pretty alarming drop. His velocity isn't down much at all, though, so we're not especially concerned. The Phillies and Rangers appear to be the front-runners for his services at this point.

 

I think the Red Sox are going to ditch Pap, make Bard the closer next year and use the savings to get another pitcher or outfielder, or maybe a SS. Bell doesn't fit in that picture in Boston, but you never know--with that close FO relationship with SD.

[SoxSport]

SI.com's Jon Heyman reported that at least 12 teams have contacted the Rockies regarding the right-hander's availability and also said that the Rockies would be interested in Yankees prospect Jesus Montero in a potential Jimenez deal

 

Typical Heyman quote--a Yankee stooge boosting their minor leaguers. If Montero was any good, he'd be catching in NY. More likely, that's what the Yankees are offering--a guy they don't want.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Typical Heyman quote--a Yankee stooge boosting their minor leaguers. If Montero was any good' date=' he'd be catching in NY. More likely, that's what the Yankees are offering--a guy they don't want.[/quote']

 

I have no idea why the Rockies would want a guy who projects as a DH by the age of 25. Unless they plan on putting him at 1B, they would have no use for him. I don't know the Rox farm system, so I'm not sure if they have any studs who can play 1B or not, but if they do, they would have no need for Montero. He's not a catcher, he's only listed as a catcher to try to make him more appealing.

[boston22407]

The Red Sox are among the teams that have asked the Padres about Ryan Ludwick, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney.

The Red Sox could use a bat to play in the corner outfield and Ludwick certainly fits that bill, with a .795 career OPS over nine seasons. He's struggled this year in PETCO, posting a .240/.305/.379 slash line heading into play on Sunday. Ludwick is still owed roughly $2.25 million this season

[WhiskeyBreath]

Ludwick sucks.

[BornToRun]

Papi is having a renaissance year--so far. But it's a suspiciously good year for a guy who has juiced up in the past with Manny. One of those asterisk contract years. I doubt it will translate into a long term contract for the money he wants.

 

He and Manny have had so many big hits in Boston you have to like him. But you don't have to trust him. If he has come back just from hard work and conditioning, more power to him. I just have my doubts. I think angel dust is still common in baseball.

 

Dude, seriously?

[boston22407]

SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that the Rockies have asked the Yankees for catcher Jesus Montero, starter Ivan Nova and New York's top two pitching prospects — Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances -- in return for Ubaldo Jimenez.

Although Jimenez is a great piece, New York won't offer anything close to that. Jimenez is under team control through 2013 at a cheap price, but the Yankees won't give up the world for him. NBC's Matthew Pouliot suggests a realistic deal between the clubs could involve Montero, Betances and a lesser prospect.

[BornToRun]

So they want an overrated catching prospect, a 4 starter, and the Bumble B's?

[AtWork]

So they want an overrated catching prospect' date=' a 4 starter, and the Bumble B's?[/quote']

 

Montero, Nova, Betances and Banuelos is a pretty sweet package. There aren't too many players in baseball who couldn't be had for that price.

[Palodios]

SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that the Rockies have asked the Yankees for catcher Jesus Montero, starter Ivan Nova and New York's top two pitching prospects — Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances -- in return for Ubaldo Jimenez.

Although Jimenez is a great piece, New York won't offer anything close to that. Jimenez is under team control through 2013 at a cheap price, but the Yankees won't give up the world for him. NBC's Matthew Pouliot suggests a realistic deal between the clubs could involve Montero, Betances and a lesser prospect.

 

That's all they want for Jimeniz? Pfft, if I were them I'd negotiate to take out one of those players from the deal, and then pull the trigger. Just putting it out there-- for the next 3.5 years, this guy will cost 19 million dollars, and if anything happens to him, those are all club options so he's very easily dumped.

[SoxSport]

SI.com's Jon Heyman reports that the Rockies have asked the Yankees for catcher Jesus Montero, starter Ivan Nova and New York's top two pitching prospects — Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances -- in return for Ubaldo Jimenez.

Although Jimenez is a great piece, New York won't offer anything close to that. Jimenez is under team control through 2013 at a cheap price, but the Yankees won't give up the world for him. NBC's Matthew Pouliot suggests a realistic deal between the clubs could involve Montero, Betances and a lesser prospect.

 

Ridiculous. The Red Sox can give them more than that for a #1 starter. Are the Yankees using the NY media to try to steal this guy? Montero isn't a ML catcher, Nova sucks.

 

The Yankees are doing what they always try to do--get your best player for a pooh-pooh platter. They know they don't have the pitching.

[SoxSport]

Dude' date=' seriously?[/quote']

 

yeah, serious. welcome to the real world of HGH. everybody does it, according to Schilling.

even the Red Sox.

[SoxSport]

That's all they want for Jimeniz? Pfft' date=' if I were them I'd negotiate to take out one of those players from the deal, and then pull the trigger. Just putting it out there-- for the next 3.5 years, this guy will cost 19 million dollars, and if anything happens to him, those are all club options so he's very easily dumped.[/quote']

 

Hell, the Red Sox should get in there and up the bidding.

[WhiskeyBreath]

Ridiculous. The Red Sox can give them more than that for a #1 starter. Are the Yankees using the NY media to try to steal this guy? Montero isn't a ML catcher, Nova sucks.

 

The Yankees are doing what they always try to do--get your best player for a pooh-pooh platter. They know they don't have the pitching.

 

The NYY have more assets than the Red Sox right now to make a big trade.

[SoxSport]

Just read MLB trade rumors. Twins won't trade Cuddyer. That leaves Beltran and Francouer.

My guess is Francouer unless KC wants too much. He fits as a cheap platoon RFder who can hit LHP.

The SD guy isn't a good enough hitter--and he's old.

 

If you want the real deal in NY, read Mike Lupica. Heyman is a hack. And no, the Yankees do not have more assets than the Red Sox to deal. Heyman is just busy creating deals with the Yankee FO.

[Cocos Disciples]

Wait, you guys think Montero/Banuelos/Betances/Nova is too small a package for Jimenez? That's an enormous amount of talent. I don't want the Yankees to get Jimenez, but if they do, that's the package I'd want them to give up.

[Palodios]

Wait' date=' you guys think Montero/Banuelos/Betances/Nova is too [i']small[/i] a package for Jimenez? That's an enormous amount of talent. I don't want the Yankees to get Jimenez, but if they do, that's the package I'd want them to give up.

 

If that is a stone-cold "this WILL get it done" package, then yes. My point was if the Yanks could negotiate out any one of those guys, it would definitely be worth it.

[AtWork]

Wait' date=' you guys think Montero/Banuelos/Betances/Nova is too [i']small[/i] a package for Jimenez? That's an enormous amount of talent. I don't want the Yankees to get Jimenez, but if they do, that's the package I'd want them to give up.

 

Exactly.

[Spitball]

Unless Jiminez has a physical problem' date=' O'Dowd would be nuts to trade him. He's one of the young centerpieces out there.[/quote']

 

His k/9 and bb/9 are about the same but his whip and ERA are up. The major red flag is coming from the radar gun. His fastball is registering 3 mph off last year.

[Dojji]

Would you take Coco Crisp back?

 

Switch hitting, better against lefties, plays well defensively, puts up some decent at bats. I know he wouldn't be the sexy pick since people want power hitters, but as a 4th OF Crisp is a pretty fair fit. The worst of it is that you might see Ellsbury in right. Which isn't such a big deal this year since he has the bat to carry himself in right field this year.

[jacksonianmarch]

You rarely see a deal where a top 10 guy and another top 50-100 guy go in the other direction. Montero would be a huge haul for anyone, even though he's been less than stellar this yr. Remember, he's 21 repeating AAA. I doubt that any deal gets done where Montero plus Betances or Banuelos gets done.

[jacksonianmarch]

So they want an overrated catching prospect' date=' a 4 starter, and the Bumble B's?[/quote']

 

Nova in his rookie season was pretty good, especially of late. Calling him a #4 starter right now is akin to calling Buchholz a #5 when he struggled initially. It's assinine