Starting Shortstop 2011

[CalvnHobs6]

I think it should be Jed Lowrie, and I'm probably not alone. Even with the smaller sample size from 2010, Lowrie is clearly a more valuable player, had superior statistics, and has much higher upside. With Marco Scutaro, we know at this point what to expect - he's a #9 hitter at best and a below average fielder. What's the harm in installing Lowrie at short and keeping Scutaro on the bench?

 

Additionally, starting Jed Lowrie and getting a full season under his belt would definitely up his trade value for when Iglesias is ready to start in a year or so, if that's the direction they choose to go in.

[Dojji]

No, it should be Yamaico Navarro. No question in my mind...

 

Of course it should be Lowrie. The Sox brass have sent every signal they possibly could this offseason by shopping Scutaro aggressively that they think Jed Lowrie should take over the shortstop position in 2011. If he can't, Jose Iglesias makes one heck of a fallback option, but Lowrie is clearly Plan A.

 

They actually have some nice depth in short right now between Lowrie, Iglesias and Navarro. We already know about the first two. I know everyone always underestimates the heck out of Navarro but he's a viable option who could be ready to play by midseason, and the fact that he's blocked five ways to Sunday kinda reinforces my point about depth. When you're stuck behind guys who are as talented and as ready as Lowrie and Igelsias, it's time to get traded, so I expect to see him shopped for an established relief arm before the end of the offseason. If Scutaro's moved, he might crack the roster as a utility guy, but I suspect he'd be more valuable to another team.

 

I could see the Royals accepting a deal that brought him over, there are other teams smarting at short who wouldn't mind giving a 23 year old shortstop who has a solid half year of AAA under his belt a chance to impress them too. And that's assuming Boston would mind. So in my mind, we have 3 young shortstops in that mix any one of which could turn into at least an above average player, that can only be a good thing.

[BSN07]

Scutaro until someone offers a decent BP arm for him. Then Lowrie

[jacksonianmarch]

Iglesias is not a fall back option currently. Scutaro and Lowrie can hit circles around the Cuban kid. Iglesias is a glove only right now, and if the sox feel like they can grow his bat, then they have to keep him in the minors

[CalvnHobs6]

Iglesias is not a fall back option currently. Scutaro and Lowrie can hit circles around the Cuban kid. Iglesias is a glove only right now' date=' and if the sox feel like they can grow his bat, then they have to keep him in the minors[/quote']

 

Definitely. Opening Day 2012 at the very earliest, and they certainly won't be relying on his bat yet.

[YanksHater213]

When I saw CalvnHobs6 make this thread, I thought it was from like 2005 and he had made a prediction and bumped it up

 

Lowrie played fairly well in his short time last season. Now that he's finally healthy I really think it's only fair he gets a shot to do something.

[CalvnHobs6]

When I saw CalvnHobs6 make this thread, I thought it was from like 2005 and he had made a prediction and bumped it up

 

Lowrie played fairly well in his short time last season. Now that he's finally healthy I really think it's only fair he gets a shot to do something.

 

Haha, I saw yeszir over the weekend, and that combined with Gonzalez and very little to do at the office brought me on back.

[Dojji]

So would that mean that YN is second on the chart right now behind Lowrie if we move Scoot?

[BSN07]

So would that mean that YN is second on the chart right now behind Lowrie if we move Scoot?

 

Navarro is probably ahead this year. But by next he will be 3rd. Or he will get traded before then.

[Dojji]

Probably traded. We have no holes at second or third and shorstop has 2 strong candidates other than him, and we need relief help. Besides, young shortstops are one of the more fungible assets on a team. Just about everyone is interested if they're going around.

[BSN07]

Probably traded. We have no holes at second or third and shorstop has 2 strong candidates other than him' date=' and we need relief help. Besides, young shortstops are one of the more fungible assets on a team. Just about everyone is interested if they're going around.[/quote']

 

Navarro for Willingham

[yeszir]

Who is calvnhobs6

[CalvnHobs6]

Who is calvnhobs6

 

Allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is HOV. H to the O-V.

I used to move snowflakes by the OZ.

 

You get the idea.

[a700hitter]

Navarro is probably ahead this year. But by next he will be 3rd. Or he will get traded before then.

Don't the Nats already have an athletic SS who is a project with a full ML season under his belt? Why would they want Navarro?

[mvp 78]

POS Scutaro is the opening day SS.

[Dojji]

Navarro for Willingham

My first reaction is to reject the idea, but the more I look at Willingham, the more that looks non-terrible.

[jacksonianmarch]

Navarro is not a prime talent, and dealing for a guy like Willingham would be a steal for the sox

[italstallianion]

Navarro is not a prime talent' date=' and dealing for a guy like Willingham would be a steal for the sox[/quote']

 

 

I think you're underestimating how retarded the FO in Washington is. Didn't they give Werth a 7/126 contract recently?

[Dojji]

Navarro is not a prime talent' date=' and dealing for a guy like Willingham would be a steal for the sox[/quote']

 

You're underestimating the heck out of Navarro. He's unheralded, but all signs point to a solid contributing player.

[Dipre]

You're underestimating the heck out of Navarro. He's unheralded' date=' but all signs point to a solid contributing player.[/quote']

 

In someone's bench.....

[jacksonianmarch]

You're underestimating the heck out of Navarro. He's unheralded' date=' but all signs point to a solid contributing player.[/quote']

 

He's unheralded for a reason. He was significantly overexposed last year.

[Dojji]

He was a rookie playing in the bigs for the first time after tearing through AA and AAA. A rough start is not that surprising. Especially because he wasn't exactly playing every day. Moreover, every sample we have from Navarro suggests that he struggles at first, and then adjusts and comes back much stronger his second time through at a given level. I don't think there's any particular reason to doubt Navarro's transition to MLB at this time. I think his ceiling is at least somewhere in the Cristian Guzman range

[mvp 78]

He's unheralded for a reason. He was significantly overexposed last year.

 

Which is why you couldn't expect jack if you traded him.

[jacksonianmarch]

Exactly. He has enough trade value to get a guy like Joe McEwing, and he's retired.

[Dojji]

So sort of like Ramiro Pena, then, who you ridiculously overhyped.

[jacksonianmarch]

Never overhyped him at all. Pena is very much like Iglesias. Plus glove, next to nothing offensively. Navarro isnt even guaranteed to stick at SS, whereas Pena is a shoe in to stay there if someone wanted him to. From the sounds of it, Navarro looks more like a future 3b based on body type and his already average speed. Pena has more trade value right now than Navarro does, and I doubt it is even that close. Then again, the difference between getting a retired player and a should be retired player isnt that big, IMO.

[Dojji]

Never overhyped him at all. Pena is very much like Iglesias.

 

In consecutive sentences, no less.

[Keeper]

Time to give Lowrie a chance. Let's see if he can hold it down. If not, there's always Scutaro.

[jacksonianmarch]

And you have done nothing to disprove what I have said. Pena is a slick fielding, speedy middle infielder who cannot hit. Iglesias is a slick fielding, middle infielder, who hasnt proven he can hit yet. They are very similar players, although Iglesias has the higher upside with the bat, IMO.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is HOV. H to the O-V.

I used to move snowflakes by the OZ.

 

You get the idea.

 

:thumbsup: