Official Liverpool FC thread

[sheffieldcelt]

Yeah it's a shame about city, when a club drops two divisions but can still get 30,000 at home, traditionally I've a lot of respect for them, but they've become a circus just like Chelsea, sad really.

 

6-0' wow I remember that, running onto the pitch ? those were the days, no doubt you could probably pay ?300 for a match day experience like that now, where they'll present you with some grass in a presentation box .

 

Edit- fair play to city fans who stood tall when chips were down, but they spend more on wages now than their total income, its madness

 

Yeah 6-0, I think a 50 year old king kenny came on for a cameo and scored

 

About ?10 for ticket and ?10 for bus, unforgettable experience

 

 

Football is unaffordable these days to average guy in the street, if I were to take my 2 kids to bramall lane or hills'boro be looking at about ?70 for the matchday, I can do better things for ?70 notes, with so much tv money it should be no more than ?10/?5 for adults and kids to go to the football

 

Sorry to rant on, I may be getting too old also

[Red_Success]

Edit- fair play to city fans who stood tall when chips were down, but they spend more on wages now than their total income, its madness

 

Yeah 6-0, I think a 50 year old king kenny came on for a cameo and scored

 

About ?10 for ticket and ?10 for bus, unforgettable experience

 

 

Football is unaffordable these days to average guy in the street, if I were to take my 2 kids to bramall lane or hills'boro be looking at about ?70 for the matchday, I can do better things for ?70 notes, with so much tv money it should be no more than ?10/?5 for adults and kids to go to the football

 

Sorry to rant on, I may be getting too old also

 

I fully agree with you mate, sky and the Murdoch empire have taken so much away from our beloved sport and created this sham situation, but just like has happened in the bundesliga eventually it implodes and all that is left is what is great and good, and that's us, the fans. Just hope John henry follows thru on the fan ownership scheme, I've always enjoyed footy, but always remembered it's us that makes it what it is.

[gebhoy]

SlasherB,

 

Sorry mate its that ill informed attitude about the Scottish game that makes me livid, you seem to be another English fan that believes the hype surrounding the EPL.

 

Celtic are a truly massive club, i suggest bigger than Liverpool (easily) but i am biased, when the bubble bursts in the EPL just wait and see the clamour for the old firm to move south to prop up the most corrupt and bankrupt league in the world.

 

If Platini gets his way, the debt ridden behemoths of the European football will be well and truly hamstrung, and well run clubs like Celtic, Dortmund, Ajax, Eindhoven, etc,etc will have a better chance.

 

The best league in Europe IMHO is the Bundesliga in Germany, low cost to watch with ultra modern stadia and a decent standard of football to watch, with 6 or 7 teams challenging for the shield every year.

 

Look beyond Engurlund, the world cup shows us the true state of your national game, no where near as good as Murdoch and Sky would have us believe, Scotish football is of a poor standard of that i agree with you, but we suffer absolutely by proximaty to the EPL.

 

The quicker the bubble bursts and the likes of Bolton, Blackburn, Fulham, Stoke, Wigan et al go back to there natural state the better it will be for British football!

[LittleChief]

SlasherB,

 

Sorry mate its that ill informed attitude about the Scottish game that makes me livid, you seem to be another English fan that believes the hype surrounding the EPL.

 

Celtic are a truly massive club, i suggest bigger than Liverpool (easily) but i am biased, when the bubble bursts in the EPL just wait and see the clamour for the old firm to move south to prop up the most corrupt and bankrupt league in the world.

If Platini gets his way, the debt ridden behemoths of the European football will be well and truly hamstrung, and well run clubs like Celtic, Dortmund, Ajax, Eindhoven, etc,etc will have a better chance.

 

The best league in Europe IMHO is the Bundesliga in Germany, low cost to watch with ultra modern stadia and a decent standard of football to watch, with 6 or 7 teams challenging for the shield every year.

 

Look beyond Engurlund, the world cup shows us the true state of your national game, no where near as good as Murdoch and Sky would have us believe, Scotish football is of a poor standard of that i agree with you, but we suffer absolutely by proximaty to the EPL.

 

The quicker the bubble bursts and the likes of Bolton, Blackburn, Fulham, Stoke, Wigan et al go back to there natural state the better it will be for British football!

 

First of all Celtic is NOT bigger than Liverpool and neither is Rangers so lets set the record straight on that one, Plus even if Celtic and Rangers came into the EPL they wouldn't even get in Europe as far as Im concerned, there are better teams like Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man City, Spurs & Aston Villa. They would probably be a mid-table team.

 

Plus the likes of Celtic, Dortmund etc will have a better chance (not in a million years) you look at the last outsider to win the UEFA Champions League it was Porto back in 2004 that won't happen for a very long time if not ever again.

 

So I really can't understand what you mean when you say well run clubs, its all about money and if your chairman doesn't put money into the club then you have no chance of silverware really, thats the way football has gone.

[Sunny]

It is a foreign sport.

 

Ok. So it's a sport derived or pertaining to another nation? Then basketball is foreign is it not ? Was it not invented by a Canadian ? As is ice hockey - origins in Britain, modern game in Canada. Baseball has origins in rounders FFS. Do not the USA play 'soccer' ? Or was that a different USA playing at the world cup?

 

To be honest - sport is sport and it's played in different countries by different people with varying degrees of popularity within differing countries. Sport is global and only a xenophobic fool would think otherwise.

[Sunny]

SlasherB,

 

Sorry mate its that ill informed attitude about the Scottish game that makes me livid, you seem to be another English fan that believes the hype surrounding the EPL.

 

Celtic are a truly massive club, i suggest bigger than Liverpool (easily) but i am biased, when the bubble bursts in the EPL just wait and see the clamour for the old firm to move south to prop up the most corrupt and bankrupt league in the world.

 

If Platini gets his way, the debt ridden behemoths of the European football will be well and truly hamstrung, and well run clubs like Celtic, Dortmund, Ajax, Eindhoven, etc,etc will have a better chance.

 

The best league in Europe IMHO is the Bundesliga in Germany, low cost to watch with ultra modern stadia and a decent standard of football to watch, with 6 or 7 teams challenging for the shield every year.

 

Look beyond Engurlund, the world cup shows us the true state of your national game, no where near as good as Murdoch and Sky would have us believe, Scotish football is of a poor standard of that i agree with you, but we suffer absolutely by proximaty to the EPL.

 

The quicker the bubble bursts and the likes of Bolton, Blackburn, Fulham, Stoke, Wigan et al go back to there natural state the better it will be for British football!

 

OK. My view - both Celtic and Rangers are big clubs with lots of fans globally. Are they as big as Liverpool, Man Utd? No, but doesn't mean they don't have a massive fan base - they do. Debt is indeed rife in the EPL and does need sorting out but it's rife everywhere. Barcelona being a prime example at the moment to the point where the new board are suing the old board for mismanagement. The Bundesliga model is a great model to work towards - that much I agree. FIFA financial fair play rules are going to mean bad news for the like of Chelsea and City but I do agree with them. It will not be the panacea for Scottish football though as the problems are much wider than simply revenue.

 

I think the claims of the EPL being corrupt is a little hysterical as is blaming Scottish footballs shortcomings on it's proximity to the EPL. Scotland is a small (population wise) country and it's population density is fairly low. There's a huge amount of teams compared to the capita number. It essentially dilutes supporter numbers for teams other than the big two.

 

As for Celtic and Rangers joining the EPL. It's been a subject of debate for years. It's never going to happen. Why should they be granted any kind of automatic status into the EPL in front of English teams who been working hard to get there for years ? And let's not forget this is Scotland that wants full devolution from England. Scots generally want nothing to do with England - their own country, government etc.. but, when it suits them - we'd like to join your huge income generating league please? Sorry if I find that slightly hypocritical.

 

Celtic and Rangers will always have an issue whilst they play in Scotland. I've already stated they are huge clubs - anyone who questions that really is wide of the mark. Their only real competition is each other. The television rights, sponsorships and associated funding are poor due to the lack of interest and people watching the league. They will struggle to attract top players because of this.Also who, in their right mind, wants to play in winter in Inverness in front of 4000 people ? The attendance levels overall in the SPL are woeful - not just from numbers but from a percentage aspect.

 

Take the following as an example:

 

http://stats.football365.com/dom/SCO/PR/attend.html

 

Even Celtic and Rangers don't hit 90% average attendance

 

Now compare to the EPL

 

http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/PR/attend.html

 

Celtic and Rangers are large historical clubs but will always struggle to be truly great European clubs whilst they exist in the SPL. It's a weak league and I mean no offence when I say that. I don't think the EPL for them will happen. A European league however is always a realistic possibility.

[SlasherB]

Trust me I KNOW how big Celtic are and Rangers also. I mean no dis respect when I say they are not as big as Liverpool. They just are not. The have a massive history ( I should know, coming from Ireland you can effectively say every one has Celtic as their "second" club.

The EPL is corrupt, FACT! But so are the Spanish and Italian leagues and have been for years.

The TV/Media age has taken the EPL to a dizzy-ing height and only now with the fair play rules coming in will it hopefully take it down a notch.

Now, saying that Celtic and Rangers still play in the Scottish league, just look at the table for crying out loud. It's a two horse race EVERY year up there. The league is not as good quality wise and has not been for years.

Hence the money is NOT going there. Look at the FAI, Shamrock Rovers, Bohemians, etc. Same effectively. The EPL is attractive, has the star players and is riding the train until it buckles.

Celtic and Rangers going into the EPL will effectively kill off Scottish football and should not happen.

It is only for money any way!

[daveymac]

Liverpool FC appoint two NESV officials as directors

 

Oct 23 2010 by Ben Turner, Liverpool Echo

 

TWO senior officials from Liverpool FC’s new owners New England Sports Ventures (NESV) have been appointed as club directors – it was confirmed today.

 

LFC today confirmed David Ginsberg, one of NESV's two vice-chairmen, and investor Michael Gordon are joining the board.

 

And the club also confirmed the new directors and other senior NESV officials will join fans at Anfield tomorrow to cheer on Roy Hodgson’s men during the clash with Blackburn.

 

But one notable absence will be principal owner John W Henry who the club state cannot travel to the game as planned “due to illness.”

 

However he has pledged to watch the game from home and in a message to supporters wrote on the club website: “Sunday promises to be a special day at Anfield in more ways than one. I'll be watching the game from home and although I have only been here for a few days, I already miss Anfield.

 

“We are hard at work setting a course for the future including the search for a chief executive officer.

 

"I wish the club and the fans all the best for the match against Blackburn."

 

The appointments come days after Liverpool FC’s managing director Christian Purslow stood down from the Anfield board.

 

The former city private equity banker is though to stay on in a non-executive role as special advisor to the club.

 

His announcement came less than a week after he helped Chairman Martin Broughton and Commercial Director Ian Ayre remove former American co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett from the club.

 

New owners New England Sports Ventures took over after a series of dramatic court battles.

 

 

Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/10/23/liverpool-fc-appoint-two-nesv-officials-as-directors-100252-27531793/#ixzz13NIPVxJI

[MDF3530]

Ok. So it's a sport derived or pertaining to another nation? Then basketball is foreign is it not ? Was it not invented by a Canadian ?

James Naismith was a Canadian by birth, but came up with basketball when he was a physical education instructor at the YMCA in Springfield, Massachusetts.

[Redguard]

There are some great games / sports with unusual origins..........

 

The earliest known origins of table tennis is that, in the 1880s, British soldiers in India and South Africa played a game using a table, a row of books placed in the middle of the table for the net, a cigar box lid for the paddle, and a rounded cork from a champagne/wine bottle for the ball.

 

I used to call it 'ping pong' as a kid.

[Redguard]

SlasherB,

 

Sorry mate its that ill informed attitude about the Scottish game that makes me livid, you seem to be another English fan that believes the hype surrounding the EPL.

 

Celtic are a truly massive club, i suggest bigger than Liverpool (easily) but i am biased, when the bubble bursts in the EPL just wait and see the clamour for the old firm to move south to prop up the most corrupt and bankrupt league in the world.

 

If Platini gets his way, the debt ridden behemoths of the European football will be well and truly hamstrung, and well run clubs like Celtic, Dortmund, Ajax, Eindhoven, etc,etc will have a better chance.

 

The best league in Europe IMHO is the Bundesliga in Germany, low cost to watch with ultra modern stadia and a decent standard of football to watch, with 6 or 7 teams challenging for the shield every year.

 

Look beyond Engurlund, the world cup shows us the true state of your national game, no where near as good as Murdoch and Sky would have us believe, Scotish football is of a poor standard of that i agree with you, but we suffer absolutely by proximaty to the EPL.

 

The quicker the bubble bursts and the likes of Bolton, Blackburn, Fulham, Stoke, Wigan et al go back to there natural state the better it will be for British football!

 

In reality Celtic FC share the same sponsor deal with Rangers FC - Scottish based sponsor (Tennents) amounting to 1.5 million pounds per annum.

 

http://www.footballshirtculture.com/sponsorship/celtic-announce-tennents-lager-shirt-sponsorship-deal.html

 

Why couldn't Celtic FC secure a far better deal? Even Liverpool FC under dreadful ownership secured a far better deal (80 million pounds over 4 years), that was guaranteed to reach a worldwide audience and recoup the cost relatively quickly. Makes you think doesn't it?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8253953.stm

[LittleChief]

In reality Celtic FC share the same sponsor deal with Rangers FC - Scottish based sponsor (Tennents) amounting to 1.5 million pounds per annum.

 

http://www.footballshirtculture.com/sponsorship/celtic-announce-tennents-lager-shirt-sponsorship-deal.html

 

Why couldn't Celtic FC secure a far better deal? Even Liverpool FC under dreadful ownership secured a far better deal (80 million pounds over 4 years), that was guaranteed to reach a worldwide audience and recoup the cost relatively quickly. Makes you think doesn't it?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8253953.stm

 

Your spot on mate.

[Redguard]

Dalglish to open new club store ..........

 

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/dalglish-to-open-new-club-store

 

Liverpool Football Club are delighted to announce the opening of a new official club store in Belfast.

 

The 2,000 sq. ft. unit will be based on Castle Lane in the heart of Belfast's shopping district. The store will carry the full range of official club products and will create at least 10 new jobs for the city.

 

Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish will officially open the store - Liverpool's fifth official club shop - at 10am next Friday, November 5.

 

Playwright Nicky Alt will be in attendance on Saturday, November 6 to sign copies of his One Night in Istanbul DVD.

 

Lee Dwerryhouse, LFC Head of Retail, said: "We are really looking forward to the store opening and would encourage all of our fans in the area to come along.

 

"As a city Belfast has many parallels with Liverpool and the club's fan base in the city is huge.

 

"Our fans in Belfast are extremely passionate and their loyalty to the club is unbelievable. I am delighted we have been able to reward that loyalty and passion with our first store outside of the north west of England.

 

"We considered many sites for our next store but all the signs kept pointing back to Belfast. This store signals the start of an expansion strategy that will see a host of official club stores opening outside of Liverpool over the next few years."

 

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Great to know that we (NESV et al.) at least appear to be making in-roads into other regions. As the article says, LFC are huge in Belfast - time they had a LFC store.

[BigSox]

Good showing at Anfield last night (in the second half anyway), and good to see JWH showing his passion for the club. His celebrations when Stevie scored the 2nd was priceless - and Ms Pizzuti's bids to learn our songs shows of a classy ownership now in place

[MDF3530]

You will be happy to know that I've changed the skin on my Firefox web browser to Liverpool.

[KOPITE]

You will be happy to know that I've changed the skin on my Firefox web browser to Liverpool.

 

Funny that, because I've just changed my firefox skin to a Red Sox one!! And very nice it is too.

As for last nights match, we where sat in the Anny road next to the Italians (in fact they where all around us, in our end!! cheeky f***ers) and a shadier, dodgey looking bunch I've never seen.

As for the match its self it was definately, sorry for the cliche, a game of two halfs. We've been waiting for a performance like that all season and can only hope and pray we take it into Sundays game.

[Redguard]

They should have been given free soap & water, dirty shower of ****ers.

 

Linda is lovely. I have a good feeling about NESV, John Henry, Tom Werner et al. They seem to naturally enjoy the atmosphere and like being owners, rather than those two despicable carpet-baggers. You own the club now Linda so warm welcome - enjoy; have a good laugh and shed a few tears. Learn the words & sing along - the fans will love you.

[KOPITE]

Yeh, can defo see her becoming a 'fans favourite'. Was reading her tweets before and she seems to be getting right into the club and the city. Oh, and well done JW lad! nice work.

[AJ2010]

In reality Celtic FC share the same sponsor deal with Rangers FC - Scottish based sponsor (Tennant's) amounting to 1.5 million pounds per annum.

 

http://www.footballshirtculture.com/sponsorship/celtic-announce-tennents-lager-shirt-sponsorship-deal.html

 

Why couldn't Celtic FC secure a far better deal? Even Liverpool FC under dreadful ownership secured a far better deal (80 million pounds over 4 years), that was guaranteed to reach a worldwide audience and recoup the cost relatively quickly. Makes you think doesn't it?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8253953.stm

 

Hey Redguard, I just read your post re shirt sponsorship deals for Celtic and Glasgow Rangers and I seem to recall both teams having also shared Carling as a sponsor in the past few seasons, this prompts my question on the subject: Do the the 2 biggest clubs in Scotland share such a deal as neither one has the resources (and public exposure) to promote a unknown company willing to pay a hefty price for their services?

 

Don't get me wrong I think both clubs are huge in a footballing sense, but with Liverpool being a world renowned outfit (no offense intended to either Glasgow clubs) I think they are able to negotiate more cash from a company such as "Standard Chartered" to be seen by potentially MILLIONS usually twice a week, than Tennent's being seen by half of Scotland and a few hundred thousand other well informed fans across the globe.

 

Hope that did not sound too obnoxious, I was just offering an opinion!

[AJ2010]

They should have been given free soap & water, dirty shower of ****ers.

 

Linda is lovely. I have a good feeling about NESV, John Henry, Tom Werner et al. They seem to naturally enjoy the atmosphere and like being owners, rather than those two despicable carpet-baggers. You own the club now Linda so warm welcome - enjoy; have a good laugh and shed a few tears. Learn the words & sing along - the fans will love you.

 

Now then is Linda Mr Henry's ahem "significant other" ?

[AJ2010]

Funny that, because I've just changed my firefox skin to a Red Sox one!! And very nice it is too.

As for last nights match, we where sat in the Anny road next to the Italians (in fact they where all around us, in our end!! cheeky f***ers) and a shadier, dodgey looking bunch I've never seen.

As for the match its self it was definately, sorry for the cliche, a game of two halfs. We've been waiting for a performance like that all season and can only hope and pray we take it into Sundays game.

 

Hey Kopite did you hear about the damage to Kuyt's car, apparently caused by a horse sitting on it?

[KOPITE]

Hey Kopite did you hear about the damage to Kuyt's car' date=' apparently caused by a horse sitting on it? [/quote']

 

I heard Christian Poulsen sat on Kuyts car....so it was a donkey not a horse!

But tell you what AJ its been a long long time since I've been in an atmosphere like that, inside and outside the ground. Including the Manc games!!

[Redguard]

Hey Redguard, I just read your post re shirt sponsorship deals for Celtic and Glasgow Rangers and I seem to recall both teams having also shared Carling as a sponsor in the past few seasons, this prompts my question on the subject: Do the the 2 biggest clubs in Scotland share such a deal as neither one has the resources (and public exposure) to promote a unknown company willing to pay a hefty price for their services?

 

Don't get me wrong I think both clubs are huge in a footballing sense, but with Liverpool being a world renowned outfit (no offense intended to either Glasgow clubs) I think they are able to negotiate more cash from a company such as "Standard Chartered" to be seen by potentially MILLIONS usually twice a week, than Tennent's being seen by half of Scotland and a few hundred thousand other well informed fans across the globe.

 

Hope that did not sound too obnoxious, I was just offering an opinion!

 

Firstly, I do not doubt that both Glasgow clubs are 'great' in many ways. They both have loads of tradition, history, passion etc. Furthermore, LFC does seem to have very good relationships up there also. A Liverpool v Celtic, or vice versa fixture, is obviously a big attraction - we have quite a lot of similarities. No offence to the Scottish lads but LFC does appear to have a far bigger following / interest worldwide. That is not to say that the fans of either Ranger or Celtic are not as fanatical - they obviously are. But LFC has our song - YNWA which was adopted by Celtic and many European clubs (especially in Germany) and was incorporated into prominant 'theme music' for the 2006 World Cup. I went last year to watch my German club Kaiserslautern - they wear all red, have a great 'Kop' and sing YNWA. I was in the away end which at the time was Duisberg. K'Town were great and reminded me of the old Liverpool. Bearing in mind that under G&H I was in full boycott mode so going to K'Town was like being on a football pilgrimage. Plus the German lads were very respectful and we had a great time, (as it should be) - they adore LFC.

 

If Celtic lads want to believe that their club is bigger - let them. The facts (sponsorship & worldwide connections) suggest otherwise.

[AJ2010]

I heard Christian Poulsen sat on Kuyts car....so it was a donkey not a horse!

But tell you what AJ its been a long long time since I've been in an atmosphere like that, inside and outside the ground. Including the Manc games!!

 

Will have to get up there in the new year, last game we went to was the Chav game @ the end of the season and needless to say it was quite demoralising!

[AJ2010]

Firstly, I do not doubt that both Glasgow clubs are 'great' in many ways. They both have loads of tradition, history, passion etc. Furthermore, LFC does seem to have very good relationships up there also. A Liverpool v Celtic, or vice versa fixture, is obviously a big attraction - we have quite a lot of similarities. No offence to the Scottish lads but LFC does appear to have a far bigger following / interest worldwide. That is not to say that the fans of either Ranger or Celtic are not as fanatical - they obviously are. But LFC has our song - YNWA which was adopted by Celtic and many European clubs (especially in Germany) and was incorporated into prominant 'theme music' for the 2006 World Cup. I went last year to watch my German club Kaiserslautern - they wear all red, have a great 'Kop' and sing YNWA. I was in the away end which at the time was Duisberg. K'Town were great and reminded me of the old Liverpool. Bearing in mind that under G&H I was in full boycott mode so going to K'Town was like being on a football pilgrimage. Plus the German lads were very respectful and we had a great time, (as it should be) - they adore LFC.

 

If Celtic lads want to believe that their club is bigger - let them. The facts (sponsorship & worldwide connections) suggest otherwise.

 

I agree Liverpool are a bigger club, however you can't deny their following and international ambitions, every year i always wonder if they could just do a little better in the CL and take their culture to the different stages they may just attract a lot more fans AND more potential suitors wanting to put some cash into what is undoubtedly another Great British institution!

[BigSox]

A brilliantly excellent victory today for us :thumbsup: Anyone else think that the lovely Mrs Lisa Pizzuti is a lucky charm?

[Redguard]

A brilliantly excellent victory today for us :thumbsup: Anyone else think that the lovely Mrs Lisa Pizzuti is a lucky charm?

 

Yes. She really likes her football and I sinerely hope that she sticks around a lot more; lady lucky. Great crowd today and a great win for us. I hope that John Henry can visualise a 80,000 capacity stadium packed with Scousers. Difficult to get the full impression of the atmosphere on the television but in the ground the noise levels are terrific.

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

A brilliantly excellent victory today for us :thumbsup: Anyone else think that the lovely Mrs Lisa Pizzuti is a lucky charm?

 

I tweeted that to JH, wonder what he will think of it. But yeah she does seem to have a good effect on the teams performance when she is present.

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Also there were a few people wearing Red Sox merchandise at Anfield today.

[Spudboy]

A brilliantly excellent victory today for us :thumbsup: Anyone else think that the lovely Mrs Lisa Pizzuti is a lucky charm?

 

No.

 

She's a gold digging whore. I don't fault Henry for wanting young talent. Especially with his looks.