John Henry bids for Liverpool FC

[Vlads Quiff]

I choose to take that as a compliment' date=' so thank you.[/quote']

 

 

Oh believe me, it was

 

regards

[Vlads Quiff]

As the person that introduced Talksox to the word "quiff" (me, for the members that don't know how to read) I welcome you Sir.

 

So who the f*** is Vlad?:D

 

Thanks Spudboy.

I am intrigued. What was your interpretation of the word "Quiff" that you introduced?

 

Who the f*** is Vlad?

Vladimir Smicer was a Liverpool player from the Czech Repulblic who gloriously failed to live up to his potential, (until he scored a goal in the Champions League Final 2005. )He was a perennial sick-note, but if any of the Liverpool players were interviewed they would always point to Vladd as being the most skillful player in training. Ha, you were probably not that interested

 

regards

[Liverpool]

That night in Istanbul will never be forgotten. We won it FIVE times, in Istanbul we won it FIVE times!

[Redguard]

BTW' date=' how do you pronounce "Scouser?" Is it an assonance of Scooter (Skoozer) or Scouter (Skowzer)? Or something else?[/quote']

 

Like Scouter but substitute the 'ter' for 'sir' - Scou-sir = Scouser.

 

A "pan of scouse" became a common meal in working class Liverpool. A thickened stew, usually of mutton or lamb with vegetables slow cooked to tenderise cheap cuts of meat, it takes its name from the Norwegian for stew, "lapskaus". The shortened and anglicised version of this Norwegian word is "scouse" and is part of a genre of slang terms which refer to people by stereotypes of their dietary habits.

 

The name of the North German hash Labskaus is derived from the English word lobscouse. Labskaus is traditional in the Lower Elbe region, especially in the port city Hamburg.

 

These were traditions that are established from sea-farers. Also around Liverpool quite a few of the regional names date back to the Vikings and there are a few traces of todays inhabitants in terms of DNA evidence.

[JohnShaft]

Hmm mutton dressed up as lamb, reminds me of The Grafton

[Redguard]

Thanks for the warm welcome from all the Red Sox lads.

 

Another song that we sing is Ring Of Fire by Johhny Cash .......

 

2006 when we won the FA Cup in arguably the best FA Cup Final - as reported by commentators from the BBC and other networks......

 

 

And taken from the stands..............

 

 

Unfortunately in 2007 we were infected by G&H and we won nothing since - they bled the club dry. That will all change now and hopefully we'll again be able take on the might of Europe.

 

YNWA.

[Carradona]

haha, The Grafton, truly one of the 7 wonders of modern civilization.

[Redguard]

haha' date=' The Grafton, truly one of the 7 wonders of modern civilization.[/quote']

 

I used to think they were a tad old. Not so choosy now - there are some fit birds about. Lol.

[Redguard]

That night in Istanbul will never be forgotten. We won it FIVE times' date=' in Istanbul we won it FIVE times![/quote']

 

Absolutely brilliant. The Italians thought that we were dead & buried at half time. They couldn't believe it when the Liverpool fans stood up and sang their hearts out. Now there are loads of clubs, especially in Germany whose fans sing YNWA. They won't right us off again - belief.

[Maria7]

New poster here. I've been viewing this thread with interest since the news came down in an official sense earlier this morning. Just wanted to let the Liverpool fans know what a class bunch they will be sharing a corporate office with in the years to come.

 

It is an intelligent fanbase with a devotion to their club and sport that perhaps only finds a rival in St. Louis with the Cardinal fans. The core of the support, like Liverpool, are fans who are part of a wonderful family tradition extending to the very founding of the club itself. But you'll also find Red Sox fans anywhere you turn in the nation. There are a great many Americans who have respect for the club and their history and wish them well.

 

Take the time to learn about this club. Get to know the Red Sox fans and their traditions. Learn about their great players (Ted Williams would probably find his equivalent in Billy Liddell). Take a look at that wonderful ground their teams play on. I think you'll like and appreciate what you see--even if you don't get everything about baseball. You share much in common with them.

 

The ownership group? Judging from my perch, they are just about everything LFC needs at this moment in time:

 

1. They hire quality professionals and let them do their work without the kind of daily interference you suffered under Hicks and Gilette.

 

2. They are not afraid to spend money. But they will not spend it for the sake of spending it. They'll get value for money.

 

3. At the same time, you're going to see investment put into your youth development programs. Henry's outfit have plowed money into the farm system (baseball variant of your youth and reserve clubs) and that investment has seen great results.

 

4. The stadium issue will no longer be held hostage. These folks will do what it takes to get the job done with a minimum of fuss.

 

In your previous owners, you had two individuals who played at sports management they way a day trader plays the stock market. The people who own your club now are quality managers with real experience in running sports operations.

 

The Red Sox are a great club. They don't have the trophies other teams have. But they have a history with a mix of glory, humor, irony, and tragedy that many Americans identify with in their own lives. I think that is a great part of their appeal nationwide. Once you Liverpool fans get a feel for that, I think some of you will be following them as well.

 

Thank you very much Virgil.

 

WE are just trying get a good understanding of who our owners are and learn more about your team as well. I am sure we will be following your team's progress during the baseball season. There are alot of parallels with both clubs. I do have a coffee Red Sox mug in my cabinet, courtesy of trip to Boston a couple of years ago.

 

YNWA

[Maria7]

You're right. I give them 2 days.

 

We soccer fools are still here mate.

[Carradona]

Have you lot seen what Hicks has come out with today?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9069040.stm

 

He reckons he had already sacked Purslow and Ayres and blocked the sale of Liverpool!

[Marshny]

Seems like a lot a good reports about John Henry, but I'm concerned that one report said after all the improvements in the Red Sox on and off the field the game had been taken away from the average supporter. Is this correct?

[Maria7]

Have you lot seen what Hicks has come out with today?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9069040.stm

 

He reckons he had already sacked Purslow and Ayres and blocked the sale of Liverpool!

 

From what Broughton was indicating, I don't think Hicks has a chance to win the case. It may delay the sale process with NESV

[BigSox]

From what Broughton was indicating' date=' I don't think Hicks has a chance to win the case. It may delay the sale process with NESV[/quote']

According to the club's charter:

 

Appointment and Retirement of Directors

 

81. (a) Each director appointed to the office of chairman of the board of directors of the Company may appoint any person as director of the Company and may remove and director (other than George N. Gillett Jnr and/or Thomas O Hicks). Any appointment or removal shall be made in writing and signed by the then current chairman.

82. (a) No director shall vacate his office or be ineligible for re-appointment as a director nor shall be any person be ineligible for appointment as a director, by reason only of his having attained a particular age.

( No special notice is required of any resolution appointing or approving the appointment of such a director nor is any notice required to state the age of the person to whom the resolution relates.

 

REMOVAL AND DISQUALIFICATION OF DIRECTORS

83 The office of a director shall be vacated if

(a) he ceases to be a director by virtue of any provision of the Act or he becomes prohibited by law from being a director, or

( he becomes bankrupt or makes any arrangement or composition with his creditors generally, or

© he is, or may be, suffering from mental disorder and either

(i) he is admitted to hospital m pursuance of an application for admission for treatment under the Mental Health Act 1983 or, in Scotland, an application for admission under the Mental Health (Scotland) Act 1960, or

(ii) an order is made by a court having jurisdiction (whether in the United Kingdom or elsewhere) in matters concerning mental disorder for h is detention or for the appointment of a receiver, curator bonis or other person to exercise powers with respect to his property or affairs, or

 

(d) he resigns his office by notice to the Company, or

(e) he shall for more than six consecutive months have been absent without

permission of the directors from meetings of directors held during that

period and the directors resolve that his office be vacated, or

(f) he 1s subject to a decision of the Football Association that such director be

suspended from holding office or from taking part in any football activity

relating to the administration or management of a football club, or

(g) he 1s removed from office in accordance with article 81 above

 

Which would seem to indicate that Hicks cannot sack anyone...although who knows

[SlasherB]

They played really good football until about a couple of years ago. No London team has yet won the European Champions League though.

 

That's a DAMN FINE Avatar there matie!

Spot on old boy!

(Arsenal gave us a fine game in a 4-4 draw if I can recall!)

[JohnShaft]

He'll just change the charter bigsox, simples. It's a privately owned company and will not be sold without the owners consent regardless of what Marty says. I'd bet on it.

[Dalglish77]

Hey all Sox fans

 

Another Liverpool fan here. Firstly I'd like to apologise for all the idiots who have posted on your forum to cause trouble. All the genuine Liverpool fans that have posted are just concerned about our great club and have come to you for information. From what I have read, Sox fans are also very passionate about their team and I believe we are very similar in many ways.

 

I remember reading an article on the ESPN website a few years ago about an American who knew nothing about soccer and was trying to decide which English team to follow. He compares English teams to the American equivalent and decides on which team will then follow. He makes a lot of comparisions between Liverpool and Boston. Well I have just searched for the article and found it. I can't copy the link as it is only my first post. For anyone that is interested in the article by Bill Simmons, search "ESPN choosing my epl team". Part 2 goes into detail about his decision on which English Premier League team to support and the comparisons between Liverpool/Boston.

 

Even though we are fans of completely different sports, let's hope this is the start of a long friendship between the two sets of fans

 

You'll Never Walk Alone

[dafurf]

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[SlasherB]

He'll just change the charter bigsox' date=' simples. It's a privately owned company and will not be sold without the owners consent regardless of what Marty says. I'd bet on it.[/quote']

 

According to the "Contract" that they signed with RBS and BarCAp who was brought in (Brough-ton?) to facilitate a sale so they (G&H) could have more time, Martin Broughton was given the reins and a signed document by G&H gave him the full right to sell the club.

If they did not sign this contract and Broughton said they added in the request that HE ONLY could change the board then he was NOT going to just be a "Credible stoodge" while they did the showroom thing in trying to sell Liverpool.

 

Broughton, is a smart man and he appears to have ALL his "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed.

[BigSox]

He'll just change the charter bigsox' date=' simples. It's a privately owned company and will not be sold without the owners consent regardless of what Marty says. I'd bet on it.[/quote']

I dont think he legally can - any chater changes would surely have to put to a vote on the board? And if he hangs on until the 15th, he'll lose the club anyway and NESV will still get ownership after buying us from RBS.

[SlasherB]

Hey all Sox fans

 

Another Liverpool fan here. Firstly I'd like to apologise for all the idiots who have posted on your forum to cause trouble. All the genuine Liverpool fans that have posted are just concerned about our great club and have come to you for information. From what I have read, Sox fans are also very passionate about their team and I believe we are very similar in many ways.

 

I remember reading an article on the ESPN website a few years ago about an American who knew nothing about soccer and was trying to decide which English team to follow. He compares English teams to the American equivalent and decides on which team will then follow. He makes a lot of comparisions between Liverpool and Boston. Well I have just searched for the article and found it. I can't copy the link as it is only my first post. For anyone that is interested in the article by Bill Simmons, search "ESPN choosing my epl team". Part 2 goes into detail about his decision on which English Premier League team to support and the comparisons between Liverpool/Boston.

 

Even though we are fans of completely different sports, let's hope this is the start of a long friendship between the two sets of fans

 

You'll Never Walk Alone

 

I used to like Simmons, but once he moved to LA he went off the range.

SOme funny articles he had while I subscribed to ESPN Mag, (actually have my free shirt on now hahah).

 

If I remember right, he chose Arsenal did he? I think LFC came in second. He loved their traditions.

[SlasherB]

I dont think he legally can - any chater changes would surely have to put to a vote on the board? And if he hangs on until the 15th' date=' he'll lose the club anyway and NESV will still get ownership after buying us from RBS.[/quote']

 

The BAD thing there is then RBS will place Kop Holdings into Administration and de-duct 9 points.

 

UGH! NESV should send Hicks an email and say f*** off.

 

[JohnShaft]

I dont think he legally can - any chater changes would surely have to put to a vote on the board? And if he hangs on until the 15th' date=' he'll lose the club anyway and NESV will still get ownership after buying us from RBS.[/quote']

 

ok, like I say I'm willing to have a wager on it, our word will do. I'll have a bet with both you and Slash that they will still own the club in November. If they do then you both send a tenner to HJC and if not I'll send twenty. Are we on ladies?

[Dalglish77]

I used to like Simmons, but once he moved to LA he went off the range.

SOme funny articles he had while I subscribed to ESPN Mag, (actually have my free shirt on now hahah).

 

If I remember right, he chose Arsenal did he? I think LFC came in second. He loved their traditions.

 

Is he a Red Sox fan? Certainly seems that way! Liverpool came second in his choice, Tottenham Hotspur first. His comment on Liverpool coming 2nd was:

 

"Too much history, too personal, too easy, too obvious. Someone from America can't casually become a Liverpool fan, just like someone from England couldn't have casually become a Red Sox fan before 2004. I just wouldn't have felt right about it."

[BigSox]

The BAD thing there is then RBS will place Kop Holdings into Administration and de-duct 9 points.

 

UGH! NESV should send Hicks an email and say f*** off.

 

Read my post on our place mate, explaining the rules

[Carradona]

Broughton, is a smart man and he appears to have ALL his "i's" dotted and "t's" crossed.

 

What he said,

I hope in time all the criticism aimed at Broughton Ayres and Purslow will soon be revealed as unjustified.

 

I would love to know what is going on behind the scenes, I cant see anyone writing an autobiography about all this. not really the Liverpool way

[Dalglish77]

Hey all Sox fans

 

Another Liverpool fan here. Firstly I'd like to apologise for all the idiots who have posted on your forum to cause trouble. All the genuine Liverpool fans that have posted are just concerned about our great club and have come to you for information. From what I have read, Sox fans are also very passionate about their team and I believe we are very similar in many ways.

 

I remember reading an article on the ESPN website a few years ago about an American who knew nothing about soccer and was trying to decide which English team to follow. He compares English teams to the American equivalent and decides on which team will then follow. He makes a lot of comparisions between Liverpool and Boston. Well I have just searched for the article and found it. I can't copy the link as it is only my first post. For anyone that is interested in the article by Bill Simmons, search "ESPN choosing my epl team". Part 2 goes into detail about his decision on which English Premier League team to support and the comparisons between Liverpool/Boston.

 

Even though we are fans of completely different sports, let's hope this is the start of a long friendship between the two sets of fans

 

You'll Never Walk Alone

 

Just realised I should have copied the relevant section

 

2. LIVERPOOL

• American Comparison: The Boston Celtics, only if it were 1986 and Lenny Bias made the decision, "I'm never doing drugs.

 

• Nickname: Reds.

 

• In a Nutshell: On paper, this seemed like the most appealing team -- a perennial contender with a ton of history, great fans, snazzy uniforms, the best player in the league (midfielder Steven Gerrard, described by multiple readers as the "Big Papi of the EPL") and even their own show on channel 613 ("Liverpool Classics"), as well as an English city that everyone compares to Boston (port city, tons of Irish immigrants and blue-collar people, rivalry with London that mirrors Boston/New York, sports means a little TOO much, etc.). Reading the e-mails about Liverpool almost made me feel like I was reading about a Boston team, actually -- and that's even before finding out that Bob Kraft tried to buy an ownership stake last year. I liked them the most out of anyone.

 

(Note: Continuing with the Red Sox parallel, they staged the most famous comeback in recent soccer history last year, rallying back from a 3-0 deficit in the second half to win the Champions League. It's hard to say whether this was more or less incredible than the Red Sox rallying back from three games to zero against the Yankees. And if you thought this was a thinly-veiled excuse to mention the 2004 ALCS again, well, you know me too well.)

 

• Bandwagon Potential: Sadly, a little too high -- especially because of the Big Four thing and Gerrard (who seems like the most likable star in the league, hands down).

 

• Celebrity Fans: Sporty Spice, Chris DeBurgh, Darren Clarke and Dr. Dre. I think I'd sacrifice a kidney to be in the same room as those four people discussed Liverpool soccer for an hour.

 

• Colors/Jerseys: Blood-red, absolutely fantastic. I would wear this jersey pretty much all the time.

 

• Signature Player: Praise for Gerrard from the readers included "the definition of a true leader, last year's MVP, and England's most complete midfielder of his generation" … "the backbone of the current Liverpool team (think: Tony C. times 10)" … "when it comes to clutch, Big Papi is the Steven Gerrard of baseball" … "ROUTINELY goes out to bars after games because he's an average scouser (he was much criticized for this earlier in his career)" … "the Ortiz of English soccer, an inspirational player who has a knack for coming up with a big goal whenever they need it most (he is also likely to be appointed England's new captain now that Beckham has stepped down)" … "a local boy who turned down the chance for millions more from Chelsea and Real Madrid to play for his childhood heroes."

 

(And if that's not enough, check out his top 10 goals on YouTube, including his famous extra-time goal in the Champions League last year. Imagine if Tom Brady grew up in South Boston before becoming the Pats' QB, then turned down an extra $20 million from the Jets to remain with them. That's what Gerrard means to Liverpool.)

 

• Unintentional Comedy: Not only do they have a goofy-looking, 6-foot-7 striker named Peter Crouch who's nicknamed "Bambi on Ice" and does the "Robot" after goals, but longtime striker Robbie Fowler was (A) nicknamed "God," and ( once celebrated after a goal by pretending to sniff the end line.

 

• Sponsor: Carlsberg Beer. I consider this a major negative. Carlsberg sucks.

 

• Stadium: Anfield was originally built in 1884 and also received some Fenway Park comparisons from readers, mostly because of the Kop (a banked stand on one side) that's a little Green Monster-esque. Although I wonder if the fans of various teams were buttering me up by describing their stadiums as "a lot like Fenway Park." If so, you succeeded.

 

• Vacation Destination: Only if you've been kidnapped.

 

• Most Hated Rival: Manchester United.

 

• Random Depressing Fact: According to a reader, "Back in 1989, 96 Liverpool supporters died in the Hillsborough Stadium Disaster, an event immortalized by the twin flames on the official club shield. Liverpool fans vowed never to forget their fallen comrades, and to this day carry on their memories in banners, scarves, songs and poems. It was an event that actually brought an end to Liverpool's reign of success."

 

(Bonus reason to pick them: They have the best song: "You'll Never Walk Alone," which sounds eerie when they're belting it out before games and absolutely electric after big victories. It's so good, Pink Floyd even found a way to work it into a song ("Fearless"). I've said it before, I'll say it again: We need to figure out a way to come up with team songs for American sports. How much better would Knicks games be if the fans sang Tom Petty's "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" after every game?)

 

(Another bonus reason to pick them: The Beatles.)

 

Single Best Reason NOT To Pick Them: Too much history, too personal, too easy, too obvious. Someone from America can't casually become a Liverpool fan, just like someone from England couldn't have casually become a Red Sox fan before 2004. I just wouldn't have felt right about it.

[flred]

I think a prawn is what we call a shrimp. But could you explain what you mean here please?

 

Yes, pretty much. Just think of very small shrimp, covered with thousand island dressing, in between two thin slices of bread. Quite nice too, they're generally the dearer option of pre-made sandwiches in supermarkets, and often served with corporate catering spreads.

 

The reference is from a famous (within English soccer) article about Roy Keane (one of the manc's better, although nastiest players). When the gloryboys were filling Old Trafford a few years ago, they'd leave the game early if the side was losing, and start having a go at the players over the smallest thing. Keane got pissed off with it and had a go back. He was basically saying they weren't proper fans and didn't understand the games, or something like that. It created a stir at the time, and "prawn sandwich brigade" has been used as a derogatory term for certain "supporters".

 

 

Glasgow Celtic, also rather good with silverware, because they're basically the other team is Scotland. One of the Glasgow sides generally wins. They have:

 

League: 42

Cup: 34

League cup: 14

European cup (now called Champions League): 1

 

Not bad eh? There was talk of the two Glasgow teams joining the English league a few years ago. After all, their tin-pot league is worthless, and the English league already contains some Welsh clubs. It never happened, not sure why. Probably scotty FA politics and the clubs being somewhat unlikely to qualify for European competitions, which is where clubs earn big money with TV revenue.

[BigSox]

Yes, pretty much. Just think of very small shrimp, covered with thousand island dressing, in between two thin slices of bread. Quite nice too, they're generally the dearer option of pre-made sandwiches in supermarkets, and often served with corporate catering spreads.

 

The reference is from a famous (within English soccer) article about Roy Keane (one of the manc's better, although nastiest players). When the gloryboys were filling Old Trafford a few years ago, they'd leave the game early if the side was losing, and start having a go at the players over the smallest thing. Keane got pissed off with it and had a go back. He was basically saying they weren't proper fans and didn't understand the games, or something like that. It created a stir at the time, and "prawn sandwich brigade" has been used as a derogatory term for certain "supporters".

 

 

Glasgow Celtic, also rather good with silverware, because they're basically the other team is Scotland. One of the Glasgow sides generally wins. They have:

 

League: 42

Cup: 34

League cup: 14

European cup (now called Champions League): 1

 

Not bad eh? There was talk of the two Glasgow teams joining the English league a few years ago. After all, their tin-pot league is worthless, and the English league already contains some Welsh clubs. It never happened, not sure why. Probably scotty FA politics and the clubs being somewhat unlikely to qualify for European competitions, which is where clubs earn big money with TV revenue.

There have been only 4 occasions in the last 45 years that neither Rangers or Celtic have won the scots league - 3 of those were Aberdeen under Alex Ferguson (the current manager of Manchester United btw Sox)