New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[yankees228]

No reason to let him start the 8th inning, with a rested Robertson. But it's Girardi, who never anticipates trouble.

[jacksonianmarch]

He's kinda like an abused dog. He gets kicked in the teeth, then wags his tail and runs right back to his owner for another swift kick

[yankees228]

Should be Mo for Choo, but it's Logan.

[yankees228]

Well, I've give Boone Logan this, if he can throw fastballs like that consistently, he can be successful, especially against lefties.

[jacksonianmarch]

Yankees win again. Gotta say, for a team as hot as Cleveland was, Javy really doused the flames. He's on pace for 170-180IP and 140 or so K's with an ERA in the mid 4's. Not too bad for a guy who started out as badly as he did

[Yaz Sideburn]

If they deal for Dan Haren' date=' if Dave Robertson continues to pitch well, and if Damaso Marte is healthy, I think they are.[/quote']

 

are you talking about the roberston with a 4.67 era and a 1.64 whip or is there another david robertson who's actually pitching well?

[italstallianion]

In all fairness, I think that Robertson had been pitching much better lately. Granted it's still not great, but it's something.

[yankees228]

are you talking about the roberston with a 4.67 era and a 1.64 whip or is there another david robertson who's actually pitching well?

 

You should avoid the sarcasm unless you're sure your point is a valid one. Robertson got off to a poor start this year, but here are his numbers from May 8th on:

 

27.1 IP, 2.30 ERA, 29 Ks (and that's all with a .352 BABIP over that stretch)

 

Additionally, he hasn't allowed a run in his last eight appearances.

 

Of course you can't ignore what he did over the first month of the season, but when you're trying to predict what he's going to do moving forward, I'd say his numbers from May 8th on are extremely relevant. Furthermore, the exact quote that you responded to was "if Dave Robertson continues to pitch well". That clearly implies, if nothing else, that he has pitched well recently (not necessarily throughout the duration of the season).

[Yaz Sideburn]

You should avoid the sarcasm unless you're sure your point is a valid one. Robertson got off to a poor start this year, but here are his numbers from May 8th on:

 

27.1 IP, 2.30 ERA, 29 Ks (and that's all with a .352 BABIP over that stretch)

 

Additionally, he hasn't allowed a run in his last eight appearances.

 

Of course you can't ignore what he did over the first month of the season, but when you're trying to predict what he's going to do moving forward, I'd say his numbers from May 8th on are extremely relevant. Furthermore, the exact quote that you responded to was "if Dave Robertson continues to pitch well". That clearly implies, if nothing else, that he has pitched well recently (not necessarily throughout the duration of the season).

 

i looked up his stats before posting. june was by far his best month, in which he had an era of 1.00 in 9 innings of work. but even this his whip was 1.33 and he stranded over 90% of baserunners so he was probably pretty lucky. he got lit up the first two months of the season and has been decent this month, but not anything to write home about (3.72 era, 1.34 whip)

[yankees228]

i looked up his stats before posting. june was by far his best month' date=' in which he had an era of 1.00 in 9 innings of work. but even this his whip was 1.33 and he stranded over 90% of baserunners so he was probably pretty lucky. he got lit up the first two months of the season and has been decent this month, but not anything to write home about (3.72 era, 1.34 whip)[/quote']

 

Once again, he has a 2.30 ERA from May 8th on, and he hasn't allowed a run in his last eight appearances. If he continues to pitch like this, it's going to be a big boost to the Yankees bullpen. This is not debatable.

[Yaz Sideburn]

Once again' date=' he has a 2.30 ERA from May 8th on, and he hasn't allowed a run in his last eight appearances. If he continues to pitch like this, it's going to be a big boost to the Yankees bullpen. This is not debatable.[/quote']

 

ok, let's consider the yankees best case scenario - robertson becomes a dominant set up man. even then they're just in the same boat as the red sox where they need their starters to go 7 or 8 innings every time they're in a close game. they need to add a bullpen arm

[yankees228]

ok' date=' let's consider the yankees best case scenario - robertson becomes a dominant set up man. even then they're just in the same boat as the red sox where they need their starters to go 7 or 8 innings every time they're in a close game. they need to add a bullpen arm[/quote']

 

In the postseason, they have the luxury of being able to turn to Rivera for more than three outs, and sometimes for even a full two innings (or maybe even more). If Robertson is pitching well, if Marte is healthy, and if Hughes gives them something out of the pen (all realistic, and maybe even probable scenarios), I think they're in decent shape. That wouldn't be a great bullpen, but it would be no worse than the one they won the World Series with last year.

 

EDIT: As for the regular season, while there are no guarantees, I'm confident in this team's chances of making the postseason, even with no new additions.

[yankees228]

Three good swings on hittable pitches. Just missed them.

[yankees228]

Excellent throw from Gardner, and a great play by Cervelli. Nice to see a Yankees' catcher block the plate for once.

[yankees228]

CC throwing really hard thus far.

[Yaz Sideburn]

In the postseason, they have the luxury of being able to turn to Rivera for more than three outs, and sometimes for even a full two innings (or maybe even more). If Robertson is pitching well, if Marte is healthy, and if Hughes gives them something out of the pen (all realistic, and maybe even probable scenarios), I think they're in decent shape. That wouldn't be a great bullpen, but it would be no worse than the one they won the World Series with last year.

 

EDIT: As for the regular season, while there are no guarantees, I'm confident in this team's chances of making the postseason, even with no new additions.

 

hey, i'd prefer that the yankees don't add an arm so i don't have a problem with it. i enjoy watching their bullpen make games interesting on a regular basis

[yankees228]

hey' date=' i'd prefer that the yankees don't add an arm so i don't have a problem with it. i enjoy watching their bullpen make games interesting on a regular basis[/quote']

 

Obviously I'd prefer if they added a bullpen arm. I just don't think it's necessarily a crippling situation.

[yankees228]

Just missing so many pitches.

[jacksonianmarch]

Soft tossing control pitcher that the Yanks havent seen before. A recipe for us to be shutout. And CC has been porked thus far by our D

[italstallianion]

Not a bad debut indeed.

[jacksonianmarch]

We hit the flame throwers well cause they typically have minimal control. It's the control, soft tossers that we struggle against first time through. If we face the kid a second time, we'll pound him

[italstallianion]

It would also help if the defense picked up it's starter. I'm sure that you'll get him next time. You can't win all 162...

[jacksonianmarch]

Yeah, CC got no help today. 2UER due to the errors by Cervelli and Cano then a third run scoring after a "triple" that hit off the heel of Granderson's glove

[yankees228]

We hit the flame throwers well cause they typically have minimal control. It's the control' date=' soft tossers that we struggle against first time through. If we face the kid a second time, we'll pound him[/quote']

 

Sean O'Sullivan is the perfect example.

[Yaz Sideburn]

the yankees bullpen will be alright if robertson pitches better than he has most of the year, if hughes transitions seemlessly to the bullpen and if marte is healthy (unlike the last two years that he's had shoulder issues)

 

that's a lot of ifs

[Yaz Sideburn]

the yankees lose with their ace on the mound against a rookie in his first start. those are the kind of losses that will allow other teams a chance at the division

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

the yankees lose with their ace on the mound against a rookie in his first start. those are the kind of losses that will allow other teams a chance at the division

 

:thumbsup:

[Palodios]

the yankees lose with their ace on the mound against a rookie in his first start. those are the kind of losses that will allow other teams a chance at the division

 

I know you're a big sox fan, but have a serious problem of overlooking the facts because of bias. In Sabathia's last 8 starts, the Yankees are 7-1. In Lester's last 8 starts, the Sox are 4-4.

[yankees228]

the yankees bullpen will be alright if robertson pitches better than he has most of the year, if hughes transitions seemlessly to the bullpen and if marte is healthy (unlike the last two years that he's had shoulder issues)

 

that's a lot of ifs

 

Once again, he has a 2.30 ERA since May 8th. Robertson doesn't have to pitch better than he has most of the year, he just has to keep pitching like he has for the majority of the season. I'm forced to believe, at this point, that you're simply not reading my posts.

 

They also don't need Hughes to transition seamlessly to the bullpen, they would just need him to be serviceable. Also, Aceves might be back at some point, which would be a boost.

 

But again, in the playoffs, they can ask Rivera to get six outs. Conceivably, if just one other reliever steps up, they should be OK.

[yankees228]

I know you're a big sox fan' date=' but have a serious problem of overlooking the facts because of bias. In Sabathia's last 8 starts, the Yankees are 7-1. In Lester's last 8 starts, the Sox are 4-4.[/quote']

 

It's the tenor of his posts that show the most bias. Everything written about the Yankees is said with negative undertones. Everything written about the Red Sox is said with positive undertones.

 

Yet the two teams are seven games apart in the standings. But whatever, I'm a Yankees' fan on a Red Sox's forum, so a certain amount of bias against the Yankees and towards the Red Sox is to be expected.