Wakefield and the 2010 season.

[a700hitter]

I really think that at 43 he is really starting to break down physically. This year was his back. He has had shoulder problems in past years and he has a torn labrum that has not been repaired. I think his reliability will decline. It's time to move on.

[bostonule25]

he got surgery for a reason. he'll be back next year

[bsox0407]

he got surgery for a reason. he'll be back next year

 

he could be getting just because the discomfort it was causing him. i just don't know why once he was out for the season he didn't get the surgery.

[jacksonianmarch]

Theo said as much a few days ago. It was on WEEI. Essentially, Theo is expecting Wakefield to return, he just wanted to wait until a couple weeks out from surgery to see how he is feeling before pulling the trigger on the option

[Wells]

I say keep Wake until he's 100 years old..

 

I am biased though since he's my favorite all time player. He had his first all star selection and got hurt for the 2nd half. I realize that it's been a few years he's been unable to perform in the 2nd half now but his 11 first half wins kept us in the playoff race this year whether you wanna admit it or not.

 

at $4MM who is going to tell him to hang it up if he thinks he can go?

 

I'm sure he'll make the decision when the time is right for him and apparently he's gonna let the surgery dictate how long he plays.

 

I say good and go Wake. Classiest guy in Red Sox history.

[26 to 6]

Definitely the classiest guy on the team. One of the few Red Sox that doesn't make me sick.

[a700hitter]

Definitely the classiest guy on the team. One of the few Red Sox that doesn't make me sick.

It doesn't hurt that your team beats him like a drum.

[26 to 6]

I suppose, but even still.

 

He's had his way with us a few times though.

[jacksonianmarch]

From all accounts, Wakefield's surgery was a success. They have until 5 days after the world series ends to pick up the option. And as of right now, his strength has returned to his legs and he is walking around without a limp. The plan is for 6 weeks of rehab, then he can pick up a ball again.

[FourFriends1679]

I say, "Let him go as far as his back & arm will carry him."

 

Healthy, he can still be the best 5th starter in the league by far.

 

If he gets hurt again... IDK. He is getting up there. Knucklers' arms last longer, but that says nothing about their BACKS.

 

I'm not crazy about him in the 'Pen. Bad memories from '99 and 2000. *shudder* (The image of Jim Thome sending one of his pitches into ORBIT in the '99 LDS will be etched in my memory next to Schiraldi, Stanley and Buckner, even though we did end up winning that series.) Not to mention Aaron -bleepin'- BOONE in '03, even though Wake never should have never even had to pitch in THAT game.

 

My big beef with him out of the pen is that if he needs a batter or two to find his groove (and, IMHO, he does) two runs could score before he gets an out. Plus he's not a strikeout pitcher, or LH/RH specialist. An inning or two here and there, coming in with bases empty... MAYBE. But aren't you better of developing younger talent / future straters in that role?

 

If he can't start, sadly, I think he should retire. He's wasted on mop-up duty.

[TheMino007]

For 4 mill, there isn't a better option as a 5th stater. Guy will pitch 200 innings, get you 12-15 wins, and post a 4.30-4.50 ERA. No complaints here. Problem is he can't stay healthy for an entire season anymore and the Sox always have to scramble to find a replacement. There is no one in the farm that I want to replace Wake yet, Bowden is terrible and Tazawa needs some work in Triple A. I wonder if the Sox can't just have Wake start the season in like June, so he isn't broken down come playoff time. But then again, I don't want Wakefield ever, I mean ever, pitching in the playoffs.

[Dojji]

Tim Wakefield hasn't pitched 200 innings since 2005. But he is a steady, average pitcher to round out the bottom of a rotation, I agree with that.

[BSN07]

Sign Bedard. Wake first half, Bedard 2nd half. If Bedard isn't ready, #5 SP aren't too hard to get at the TDL. Plus you have( at this point in time) Tazawa and Bowden that could get some starts. Could always see if Pedro wants to make about 10-12 starts too

[a700hitter]

Sign Bedard. Wake first half' date=' Bedard 2nd half. If Bedard isn't ready, #5 SP aren't too hard to get at the TDL. Plus you have( at this point in time) Tazawa and Bowden that could get some starts. Could always see if Pedro wants to make about 10-12 starts too [/quote']

Let some other team pick through the garbage bins for the lame, old and infirm. The Red Sox should look to get a reliable healthy pitcher that can take the ball 35 times.

[Dipre]

Sign Bedard. Wake first half' date=' Bedard 2nd half. If Bedard isn't ready, #5 SP aren't too hard to get at the TDL. Plus you have( at this point in time) Tazawa and Bowden that could get some starts. Could always see if Pedro wants to make about 10-12 starts too [/quote']

 

Bedard.Has.A.Torn.Labrum.

[The_Destroyah]

sign Javvy Lopez.

[Dipre]

sign Javvy Lopez.

 

At least he doesn't have a torn labrum.

[The_Destroyah]

At least he doesn't have a torn labrum.

 

I'll make sure he has alot worse than that if the sox sign him

[Dipre]

I'll make sure he has alot worse than that if the sox sign him

 

No you won't. Because i already have my "contacts" ready to get the job done.

[The_Destroyah]

No you won't. Because i already have my "contacts" ready to get the job done.

 

hey as long as I get confirmation that the suck has been contained im good.

[Dipre]

hey as long as I get confirmation that the suck has been contained im good.

 

It won't be "contained". It will be eliminated.

[The_Destroyah]

It won't be "contained". It will be eliminated.

 

even better, and while you are at it you should get some hair follicles or something from Pujols, we may start cloning soon, good thing they froze Ted Williams' head.

[TheMino007]

Sign Bedard. Wake first half' date=' Bedard 2nd half. If Bedard isn't ready, #5 SP aren't too hard to get at the TDL. Plus you have( at this point in time) Tazawa and Bowden that could get some starts. Could always see if Pedro wants to make about 10-12 starts too [/quote']

 

No way, I don't want any more injury riddled pitchers on this staff. Wakefield is bound to get heart, Beckett will be on the DL at some point was well, so why would it be smart to sign Bedard or starters like Harden, etc. who can't go a full season? When all these guys go down do you want the Triple A rotation of Bowden, Tazawa, and god help us Hansack up here? I want starters who can go 30+ times a year.

[The_Destroyah]

No way' date=' I don't want any more injury riddled pitchers on this staff. Wakefield is bound to get heart, Beckett will be on the DL at some point was well, so why would it be smart to sign Bedard or starters like Harden, etc. who can't go a full season? When all these guys go down do you want the Triple A rotation of Bowden, Tazawa, and god help us Hansack up here? I want starters who can go 30+ times a year.[/quote']

 

I think Beckett's plenty capable of staying of the DL, just sayin.

And Wakefield has always had heart he doesnt need more :harhar:.

[Dipre]

No way' date=' I don't want any more injury riddled pitchers on this staff. Wakefield is bound to get heart, Beckett will be on the DL at some point was well, so why would it be smart to sign Bedard or starters like Harden, etc. who can't go a full season? When all these guys go down do you want the Triple A rotation of Bowden, Tazawa, and god help us Hansack up here? I want starters who can go 30+ times a year.[/quote']

 

The Sox need to sign Lackey and Harden. Like Kilo said earlier, they need to stop the ******** payroll excuse, they'll shed a lot of money in '10, so they can go big now.

[TheMino007]

Lackey I wouldn't mind. I'm not to fond if signing Rich Harden for the obvious injury reasons I explained in other threads. We can go out and sign a pitcher, we don't need to gut the farm for a SP b/c the need at SP isn't as great as it is as this teams offense.

[The_Destroyah]

Lackey I wouldn't mind. I'm not to fond if signing Rich Harden for the obvious injury reasons I explained in other threads. We can go out and sign a pitcher' date=' we don't need to gut the farm for a SP b/c the need at SP isn't as great as it is as this teams offense.[/quote']

 

they are free agents so the farm system has nothing to do with it.

[Dipre]

they are free agents so the farm system has nothing to do with it.

 

He meant trading for Felix.

[The_Destroyah]

He meant trading for Felix.

 

Ah I see, that makes alot more sense, but, Im all for trading for Felix.

[Dipre]

Ah I see' date=' that makes alot more sense, but, Im all for trading for Felix.[/quote']

 

They wouldn't be able to get both A-Gon and Felix.

 

If given the choice, it's A-Gon all the way.