Report: Coco Crisp Traded To Royals

[yankeessuck013]

He definitely looks like a solid reliever' date=' entering the prime of his career and he adjusted well to the AL last season. From what I've read, he has an average fastball with a slider but a nasty curveball which I guess is damn good considering he averages almost a K an inning but he is prone to giving up homers.[/quote']

 

he only game up 2 in 71 innings last year.

[Youk Of The Nation]

 

Garret Anderson (37)

 

Juan Rivera (30)

 

 

Rocco Baldelli (27)

 

Jim Edmonds (39)

 

Cliff Floyd (36)

Ken Griffey Jr. (39)

 

Trot Nixon (35)

Brad Wilkerson

 

All decent options. And that's just FA. They could always make some sort of trade for one.

 

 

Cliff Floyd and Brad Wilkerson? No thanks.

 

Griffey would be way too expensive for what would probably be a one-year deal. Ditto Anderson.

 

The Trot Nixon 'era' is over. Get used to it. He ISNT COMING BACK BECAUSE HE IS LESS THAN MEDIOCRE NOW.

 

Jim Edmonds is 75 years old.

 

Juan Rivera...maybe. MAYBE.

 

Rocco Baldelli is about as reliable physically as a space shuttle made out of scotch tape and toothpicks.

[BSN07]

I meant I am not a physician...therefore I have no "patients"...good grief.

 

My English is going to s*** from living abroad hahahahaha:thumbsup:

[BSN07]

Cliff Floyd and Brad Wilkerson? No thanks.

 

Griffey would be way too expensive for what would probably be a one-year deal. Ditto Anderson.

 

The Trot Nixon 'era' is over. Get used to it. He ISNT COMING BACK BECAUSE HE IS LESS THAN MEDIOCRE NOW.

 

Jim Edmonds is 75 years old.

 

Juan Rivera...maybe. MAYBE.

 

Rocco Baldelli is about as reliable physically as a space shuttle made out of scotch tape and toothpicks.

 

I was just pointing out options. You can have Baldelli and if he goes down the Sox could bring someone up.

 

You seem to think I want these old fuggers playing everyday. I don't. 1-3 games a week isn't bad for the older group.

 

Yes Griffey will be expensive, and Anderson is likely to sign back with LAA.

 

Rivera is probably the best option tho.

 

 

I know Nixon isn't coming back. I was more or less highlighting players who can play Multiple OF positions.

[riverside sluggers]

Royals acquired outfielder Coco Crisp from the Red Sox for RHP Ramon Ramirez.

This looks a lot like the Mike Jacobs trade, with the Royals giving up a quality reliever in exchange for a veteran regular who may or may not be worth his salary. However, this is the better trade of the two. Crisp adds an extra $5 million to the payroll (he's due $5.75 million, while Ramirez wasn't yet arbitration eligible), but he should be decent as an everyday center fielder. The Royals did already have a perfectly solid center fielder in David DeJesus, but they've been itching to move him to left. With Jose Guillen likely to play right, Mark Teahen looks like the odd man out. The Royals could go with a lineup of: CF Crisp, SS Mike Aviles, LF DeJesus, RF Guillen, 1B Jacobs, DH Billy Butler, 3B Alex Gordon, C Miguel Olivo/John Buck, 2B Alberto Callaspo.

 

Red Sox acquired RHP Ramon Ramirez from the Royals for outfielder Coco Crisp.

The Red Sox get the additional setup guy they badly needed last season, though it costs them their outfield depth. Ramirez, 27, has pitched well in two of his three seasons in the majors. He had a 2.64 ERA and a 70/31 K/BB ratio in 71 2/3 innings for the Royals last season. His 94-mph fastball and hard slider make him tough on righties, but he does have trouble with lefties. His acquisition would seem to free up Justin Masterson for a move back to the rotation or to be used in trade, though there would be room for both in the pen. The Red Sox will now have to go get themselves another fourth outfielder, probably a right-handed hitter. Free agent Rocco Baldelli is one possibility, and they could always make a trade for someone like Franklin Gutierrez.

[BSN07]

 

Franklin Gutierrez would be a nice 4 OF.

[Mr Crunchy]

i too am in finance

but i work in ahh recovery shall we say,patience is a virtue,in my line of work it gets me fired.

crisp outplayed ellsbury last year.

pedroia had a bad month his rookie year,ells had a bad year when they learned how to get him out.

shedding salary?

sending coco crisp down the road isnt exactly my idea of shedding salary,how much were we paying him?.6M??ok fair enuff but i dont think its too much compared to what we pay other scatine.

theo is finally done paying renteria??

19M for 1 year of the league leader in errors,10 hrs and a 270 average.

then he goes and signs julio lugo to a 36M deal of which 18m is still owed??

that amounts to another bout of sheer f***ing stupidity from the boy wonder.

too early to get pumped over this,the dust is sure to start settling around xgiving and into december and i am of the mindset that we aint done with tek just yet nor are we done exploring other avenues of interest..

i love our pitching as is

now that bucholz is touchable and michael bowden officially on the table as well we can form a staff of 4studds with wake as the #5 and all we need is another 200ip guy and 80-100M.

our offense will need work

if ells cant lead off(this is essential) we may need to consider another lead off hitter,a guy who can hit .300,obp of .375 and steal 40 bases,ellsbury has to perform or we need to find someone who can,those options are few and far between once the season starts.

[Mr Crunchy]

Rocky Baldelli was a juice head big time,this explains his giambi/nomar like disappearance from the game but at least his dad dont have to be a 2nd story guy in woonsocket anymore which is very fortunate since they grabbed up 20 of his goombahs from the old patriacca klan over the weekend.

i always liked rocco

i am on a 1st name basis with his dad but i will call spades spades and roids f*** you up when you cant take them any longer,hopefully the boy can stay on the field for the rest of his career.

[diony]

Get Juan Rivera.

[BSN07]

Rocky Baldelli was a juice head big time' date='this explains his giambi/nomar like disappearance from the game [/b']but at least his dad dont have to be a 2nd story guy in woonsocket anymore which is very fortunate since they grabbed up 20 of his goombahs from the old patriacca klan over the weekend.

i always liked rocco

i am on a 1st name basis with his dad but i will call spades spades and roids f*** you up when you cant take them any longer,hopefully the boy can stay on the field for the rest of his career.

 

You really think it's roids and not the disease he was dignosed with earlier this year?

[Gom]

Crunchy...a 4th OF or a reliever that's part of your bullpen rotation? Not to mention knocking a few million off of your books.

 

This puts a close to "By the end of Damon's contract, we'll have a better OF in Crisp" mantra.

[Dojji]

Not that Damon's really covering himself with glory with that contract of his either. He's lost all semblance of defense.

 

It's sort of a trade-off. Crisp lost his bat in Cleveland but he's a world-class defender. Damon hits about as well as he ever did but he can't field his position anymore and they had to move him.

[TheKilo]

Not that Damon's really covering himself with glory with that contract of his either. He's lost all semblance of defense.

 

It's sort of a trade-off. Crisp lost his bat in Cleveland but he's a world-class defender. Damon hits about as well as he ever did but he can't field his position anymore and they had to move him.

 

And he costs half as much

[CrespoBlows]

I see Mike Lowell getting moved for a fourth OF.

[BSN07]

I see Mike Lowell getting moved for a fourth OF.

 

Not that unreasonable.

 

Only if Tex is signed tho. I don't see any other scenario that Lowell would be moved in. From what I hear Lars insn't ready, so there would be no one to replace Youk(assuming he would move to 3B to replace Lowell). Unless they had another 3B lined up.

 

 

The only other 1B I can think of being available are Konerko and Fielder. And i'd be very surprised at either of those.

[Dojji]

The only reason people are so gung-ho about moving Lowell in the first place is because they think that if they do, Mark Teixeira will magically start begging to come to Boston.

[BSN07]

The only reason people are so gung-ho about moving Lowell in the first place is because they think that if they do' date=' Mark Teixeira will magically start begging to come to Boston.[/quote']

 

No Dojji. The only time to move Lowell is if Tex is already signed. There's no reason to trade him otherwise. Tex has to be locked up before the need to trade Lowell appears.

[Dipre]

No Dojji. The only time to move Lowell is if Tex is already signed. There's no reason to trade him otherwise. Tex has to be locked up before the need to trade Lowell appears.

 

Otherwise, all hell might break loose, i.e:

 

Having to overpay for Fielder or *shurgs* Paul Konerko.

 

Bringing Anderson ahead of time.

 

Having to settle for a lesser option.

 

None of those options seem pretty to me.

[Cocos Disciples]

Listening to the "Herd" on Espn radio. they just announced the trade during the commercial break sport center update. Take it for what you will.

 

Stop listening to that. Now.

 

No seriously, turn off your radio.

 

For those who know me know I am not a optimist

 

Where do I begin...

 

Not I, good sir. I thought Pedroia would be awesome and warned everyone last offseason about tempering their expectations for Ellsbury (leadoff hitter for the next ten years!!!!!)

 

Baldelli is not a great option because of his health condition.

 

Ellsbury 500 HRs!!!one!

 

And yeah I don't like the Baldelli idea. Maybe, in theory, as a fifth outfielder, but not as the backup that can't play more than twice a week.

 

Crunchy...a 4th OF or a reliever that's part of your bullpen rotation? Not to mention knocking a few million off of your books.

 

This puts a close to "By the end of Damon's contract, we'll have a better OF in Crisp" mantra.

 

I think that mantra was closed a while ago.

 

No Dojji. The only time to move Lowell is if Tex is already signed. There's no reason to trade him otherwise. Tex has to be locked up before the need to trade Lowell appears.

 

Agreed. We will probably have to eat some of Lowell's contract, and I don't think it would be worth it unless we get Tex. Probably will not happen though.

[Dojji]

And the irony is that Boston is one of the last places Teixeira will go unless he sees a guaranteed opportunity to play 150 games there. With strong veterans manning 1B, 3B and DH, that ain't happening.

 

When there's places he could go, be paid just about as much, and be guaranteed not to lose a single game to roster politics, why would he go to a place where might wind up to deal with a 1B/3B/DH rotation? Even if he's the best player of the four, which is debatable, it's still an avoidable hassle that would serve as a tiebreaker between us any any team that meets his price and actually has openings.

[BSN07]

Stop listening to that. Now.

 

No seriously, turn off your radio.

 

 

 

Where do I begin...

 

 

 

Ellsbury 500 HRs!!!one!

 

And yeah I don't like the Baldelli idea. Maybe, in theory, as a fifth outfielder, but not as the backup that can't play more than twice a week.

 

 

 

I think that mantra was closed a while ago.

 

 

 

Agreed. We will probably have to eat some of Lowell's contract, and I don't think it would be worth it unless we get Tex. Probably will not happen though.

 

LOL, not a Herd fan? I will admit he is not everyone's cup of tea:D

[Paradisecity]

The Herd blows.

 

If Tex comes here he plays 150 games barring injuries.

[BSN07]

The Herd blows.

 

If Tex comes here he plays 150 games barring injuries.

 

Ok, he is pretty polarizing.

[Dojji]

If Tex comes here he plays 150 games barring injuries.

 

Probably, but why go to a situation where there are 4 starters for 3 positions if you don't have to?

[Cocos Disciples]

LOL' date=' not a Herd fan? I will admit he is not everyone's cup of tea:D[/quote']

 

No, not at all. But hey, up to you.

[BSN07]

And the irony is that Boston is one of the last places Teixeira will go unless he sees a guaranteed opportunity to play 150 games there. With strong veterans manning 1B, 3B and DH, that ain't happening.

 

When there's places he could go, be paid just about as much, and be guaranteed not to lose a single game to roster politics, why would he go to a place where might wind up to deal with a 1B/3B/DH rotation? Even if he's the best player of the four, which is debatable, it's still an avoidable hassle that would serve as a tiebreaker between us any any team that meets his price and actually has openings.

 

You have to realize, the Sox FO will move someone if they sign Tex. Playing time is not going to be an issue if they decide to gove him 150M+.

[BSN07]

Youk-3rd in MVP voting

Tex-150M+ contract

Lowell- 2yrs 24M/ coming off injury/ not in the league of the other two hitting

 

 

What do you think happens?

[Cocos Disciples]

Yeah, they would not sign Tex without a deal in place (or done) with Lowell.

[TheKilo]

Probably' date=' but why go to a situation where there are 4 starters for 3 positions if you don't have to?[/quote']

 

Ca$h money

[BSN07]

You fail to realize that Lowell will not hinder the FO, if Teixeira is someone they want. If the Sox want Teixeira, the only thing to stop them is the Yankees. Moving Lowell is an after thought.