Yankees to make huge offer to Burnett

[CrespoBlows]

Too small of a sample size to say that Sabathia can't cut it in October. David Ortiz was horrible in his first 50 October AB's.

[TheKilo]

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove

 

With no response from top target CC Sabathia, the Yankees have instensified their efforts to sign free-agent starters Derek Lowe and A.J. Burnett.

 

As for Lowe, the Yankees are negotiating with Lowe's agent, Scott Boras, about a four-year deal for more than $65 million. The Phillies are among several teams that have shown strong interest in Lowe.

[msubulldogs21]

4/65?!? Please please PLEASE let that happen.

[BSN07]

Too small of a sample size to say that Sabathia can't cut it in October. David Ortiz was horrible in his first 50 October AB's.

 

He didn't have Manny hitting behind him either.

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He didn't have Manny hitting behind him either.

A-Rod might though. word has it Hank REALLY wants Manny.

 

per Jon Hey"(the)man"

[BSN07]

A-Rod might though. word has it Hank REALLY wants Manny.

 

per Jon Hey"(the)man"

 

Hank is a tool.

 

 

 

What he has to say is meaningless. He has the attention span of a fish and the IQ of a small invertabrate. I hope he keeps chasing all those shiny objects and runs the Yanks into the ground.

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Hank is a tool.

 

 

 

What he has to say is meaningless. He has the attention span of a fish and the IQ of a small invertabrate. I hope he keeps chasing all those shiny objects and runs the Yanks into the ground.

He;s just the man behind the microphone, and yes a tool as well. The man really running the team is his business-savvy brother Hal. In Hal we trust.

 

but I wouldn't mind Manny.

[BSN07]

He;s just the man behind the microphone, and yes a tool as well. The man really running the team is his business-savvy brother Hal. In Hal we trust.

 

but I wouldn't mind Manny.

 

You should fell lucky Hal is there to keep a leash on Hank.

[jacksonianmarch]

no leash to keep. Hank is all bark but has no bite. He makes no decisions

[BSN07]

no leash to keep. Hank is all bark but has no bite. He makes no decisions

 

LOL

 

I hate the Yanks obviously being a Red Sox fan. But the Yanks are supposed to have a certain class I guess you would say.

 

 

Hank cheapens that with every mouth turd he produces.

[jacksonianmarch]

The yankees have a certain amount of class? Class comes from winning apparently. The Bronx zoo teams didnt have any class. The late 90s dynasty had some class. And all the while we had an owner who was a loudmouther ******* who got himself thrown out of baseball. Cmon now.

[BSN07]

The yankees have a certain amount of class? Class comes from winning apparently. The Bronx zoo teams didnt have any class. The late 90s dynasty had some class. And all the while we had an owner who was a loudmouther ******* who got himself thrown out of baseball. Cmon now.

 

Well me being 26, the Late 90's Yanks are how I think of them I guess. There my reference point. George was an idiot too sometimes but he seemed to keep most things under control while trying to maintain a certain image of the Yanks.

[TheKilo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3761008

 

The New York Yankees, making a hard late charge to beat out the Atlanta Braves for A.J. Burnett, offered the free-agent right-hander a guaranteed five-year contract Wednesday, a baseball source told ESPN.com.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081210&content_id=3711681&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

 

The report did not state the total amount of the offer, but agent Darek Braunecker is believed to be seeking something around...$91.5 million

 

Holy crap

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Holy crap

Word. Give me Sheets and Pettitte and I'll be satisfied with the rotation. There is absolutely no reason to give Lowe and Burnett the dollars they're asking for in this market.

[example1]

Burnett getting anything more than 15m/year will re-stoke my feelings that the Yankees are making stupid deals. They are raising the entire market seemingly to outbid themselves. I mean, they know Burnett isn't that good. They know he isn't going to the Sox, and probably isn't even going to the AL. Yet they will pay millions and millions more than they know he is worth to land him...

 

CC

Wang

Burnett

Joba

Pettitte (?)

 

Would they move Hughes and the other youngsters, or not resign Pettitte and use them as the 5th spot? Seems like there is more here than meets the eye.

[TheKilo]

If the sign Burnett I'm 100% sure they'd trade Hughes for Peavy

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Better not trade Hughes for another grossly overpaid pitcher who really doesn't want to be here anyway!

 

I REFUSE to give up on Hughes just yet!

[Dipre]

Better not trade Hughes for another grossly overpaid pitcher who really doesn't want to be here anyway!

 

I REFUSE to give up on Hughes just yet!

 

Explain to me how Peavy is overpaid.....

 

Seems to me, his contract is pretty cheap.

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Explain to me how Peavy is overpaid.....

 

Seems to me, his contract is pretty cheap.

To waive his no-trade to come to NY he would require his contract to be restructured or renegotiated. At least that was the word back when the Yankees were still in contention.

 

Don't get me wrong I love Peavy. I like him more than any of the guys on the market right now. But I fear he's one of those pitchers that wouldn't do well in the AL or in NY. I love to watch him pitch though.

[TheKilo]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=MLB&hl=252918&rwr=1

 

The Yankees are now at $91 million in their proposal to A.J. Burnett, according to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal.

 

There were reports that Burnett was holding out for a deal equal in value to the extension signed by Carlos Zambrano. If that was true, he'd seem to have it now. It's still a five-year proposal, apparently, so it looks like the Yankees are pretty dramatically overpaying here. Fortunately, they can afford to. There's very little chance of the Braves going that high, and the Red Sox seem to be out of the mix now.

[example1]

I just threw up a little, in my mouth.

 

If correct it makes JD Drew's deal look more than reasonable. 18.2 per-season for Burnett. Wow.

 

To put it in context, Drew is currently the Sox highest paid player at 14m, and Ortiz is 2nd, at 12.5.

 

A-Rod makes 32m in 2009, CC will get close to 23, Jeter will get 20, Burnett would get 18.2, Rivera gets 15, Posada gets 13.1, Damon and Matsui will each get 13.

 

That's 147 million for 8 players.

 

I think the Sox spend their money more wisely.

[a700hitter]

Any day now the Red Sox will start planting stories in the papers about how they can't compete financially with the Yankees. The claims of poverty are coming.

[example1]

Any day now the Red Sox will start planting stories in the papers about how they can't compete financially with the Yankees. The claims of poverty are coming.

 

The Sox would only need to claim poverty if they weren't able to compete.

 

I think claims of "superior management" or "better baseball knowledge" would be more appropriate, given that the Sox have won and the Yankees have not the past few years.

[riverside sluggers]

Damn, if Aj accepts the now reported 5 years/$91 million (very much likely) the Yankees will have invested $252 million in 2 pitchers. And they still want to sign the likes of Lowe & Manny

[Gom]

Any day now the Red Sox will start planting stories in the papers about how they can't compete financially with the Yankees. The claims of poverty are coming.

 

This is why I love your posts. A breath of fresh air, I swear.

[Gom]

If the sign Burnett I'm 100% sure they'd trade Hughes for Peavy

 

Doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

If the Yankees get Burnett, I expect them to end it with Manny.

 

Hey Jacko...that youth movement really took off didn't it? I love it!

[jacksonianmarch]

Wow, thats a big risk. But can't fault the yankees for trying. After winning 4 world series on the backs of their pitching staff, I think the yankee brass finally got their shot to restock the pitching talent. You start with a durable hoss in Wang and a young hot shot potential ace in Joba. You add one of the most durable and best pitchers in the game in CC. Add a clockwork workhorse machine in Lowe. And then add in the guy who could be the best of them all if his head is screwed on tight and he avoids the DL and we are putting together a rotation that should be the best in all of baseball. That being said, adding Burnett to this picture puts a serious *if healthy asterisk on the seasons ahead. But nobody doubts his stuff. The guy could be the best pitcher in baseball if he stayed healthy. His post AS splits are insanely good for a team still in the playoff hunt in the ALE. 8-2 94IP 82H 105K 29BB. Well, we have the financial advantage, it will only get bigger with the new stadium. Use it until they outlaw it.

[Gom]

I'm still not sold on Lowe.

 

The way I see it:

 

Burnett >>> Lowe

Sheets >>> Pettitte

 

I think, the money being close, in both cases, it's a no-brainer. What you guys are not seeing is the age difference. I think Lowe is just as likely to break down over time as Burnett. Pettite missed nearly half a season once with an elbow injury.

 

Why are people treating Lowe as something special? He is at best the 4th starter on the Yankees, Red Sox or Rays. Burnett and Sheets have stuff as good as anyone in baseball. Lowe and Pettitte are not in their class.

[jacksonianmarch]

Because you can pencil Lowe in for 32 starts and 190+IP. Remember Gom, we had one of the worst SP workloads in baseball last yr. That hurt a lot. With Lowe, you get a guy who can eat a ton of innings. And if he is the #4, so be it. If we have 3 pitchers better than Lowe with the #5 guy being Joba then I am happy as a pig in slop.

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I'm still not sold on Lowe.

 

The way I see it:

 

Burnett >>> Lowe

Sheets >>> Pettitte

 

I think, the money being close, in both cases, it's a no-brainer. What you guys are not seeing is the age difference. I think Lowe is just as likely to break down over time as Burnett. Pettite missed nearly half a season once with an elbow injury.

 

Why are people treating Lowe as something special? He is at best the 4th starter on the Yankees, Red Sox or Rays. Burnett and Sheets have stuff as good as anyone in baseball. Lowe and Pettitte are not in their class.

It would be nice to have another lefty, and a YANKEE in Pettitte though. I know there's no room for sentimentality right now after we just missed the playoffs, but I think at the right price (not $16 Mil) Andy could be a dependable part of our rotation. If we pass on giving Burnett this ridiculous contract and let Lowe go elsewhere and just stick with Sheets and Andy i think we'll be fine.

 

Wow, thats a big risk. But can't fault the yankees for trying. After winning 4 world series on the backs of their pitching staff, I think the yankee brass finally got their shot to restock the pitching talent.

It's not like they haven't taken this approach since though. Look at 2005, we were supposed to have the best team ever, we were supposed to rival Murderer's Row, not just offensively but our pitching staff too. We just added Johnson, Jaret Wright (another bum coming off a career year, much like Burnett. Although to be fair Burnett has had a better career than Wright did to that point), and Pavano, not to mention we already had Mussina and Kevin Brown (who didn't project to be as awful as he was). Instead we ended the year with Aaron Small, Shawn Chacon, and Chien-Ming Wang in making up 3/5 of our rotation. I see a very similar scenario occurring if we invest all of this money into Burnett, who's never made every start in a season except for last year which was his walk year, and Lowe who is aging. I'm just verrrrry weary of this whole situation. And I think my feelings are very justified based on what we've had to endure over the last 5 years or so.