Spring Training 2008 Game Thread!

[schillingouttheks]

BASEBALL IS OFFICIALLY BACK!!

 

Tomorrow the Sox will start their slate of spring training games with a double header. They will be playing BC at 1:05 and Northeastern at 6:05. Beckett will pitch the first couple of innings against BC (God help those poor college students' souls) and Justin Masterson will get the start against the Huskies.

 

Should be fun! I don't know if they're televised though...

 

Huzzah for game threads being back. I call opening day because even though Thumper started Game 4's thread, it was really my mojo that the Sox were running on.

[Thumper]

Huzzah for game threads being back. I call opening day because even though Thumper started Game 4's thread' date=' it was really my mojo that the Sox were running on. [/quote']

 

Ha ha, fine with me! I'm just pysched for the games.

 

And yeah, those BC kids are gonna catch some heat from Beckett... Maybe even a little chin music.

[MANNYHOF24]

The first Nesn game will be tomorrow night at 7:00. The Sox beat BC 24-0 today, Beckett fanned 4 in two innings.

[Ray10]

The boys looked good tonight against Minnesota and Dice-K looked good in this one too.

[riverside sluggers]

Solid game for George Kottaras.

 

2 for 2, Double, HR, 3 RBIs, Run, Walk

 

He did hit .308 after the All-Star break. So I will be keeping my eyes and ears out to see if he can put together a nice consistent season in Pawtucket

[riverside sluggers]

Lester stumbled out of the gate for his ST debut-- 1 inning, 2 Hits, 5 Runs (4 ER), 4 Walks

 

Catching prospect Dusty Brown had a game tying HR to help the Sox come back from a 6-3 deficit. Moss drove in the winning run with a 2 out hit, final score was 7-6. David Pauley hurled 2 shutout Ws for the win and former Ray Jon Switzer got a 1-2-3 save

 

These stats will be updated almost daily

ST stats (including vs college teams)

Coco Crisp, 4 for 7 (.571 avg) Double, RBI, 2 Walks, K, 2 Runs, 2 SBs

Alex Cora, 15 for 37 (.405 avg) 2 Doubles, 7 RBIs, 3 Walks, 2 Ks, 2 SBs

J.D. Drew, 10 for 30 (.333 avg) Double, HR, 5 RBIs, 6 Walks, 5 Ks, 4 Runs

Jason Varitek, 8 for 25 (.320 avg) Double, 3 HRs, 7 RBIs, 4 Walks, 4 Ks, 5 Runs

Kevin Youkilis, 12 for 38 (.316 avg) Double, 3 HRs, 8 RBIs, 8 Walks, 3 Ks, 7 Runs

David Ortiz, 9 for 30 (.300 avg) 5 Doubles, 2 RBIs, 5 Walks, 7 Ks, Run

Manny Ramirez, 9 for 30 (.300 avg) 4 Doubles, HR, 4 RBIs, 6 Walks, 6 Ks, 4 Runs

Sean Casey, 7 for 25 (.280 avg) 2 Doubles, 3 RBIs, 2 Walks, 2 Ks, Run

Julio Lugo, 5 for 18 (.278 avg) Double, 3 RBIs, Walk, 2 Ks, 2 Runs

Mike Lowell, 9 for 39 (.231 avg) 2 HRs, 5 RBIs, Walk, 4 Ks, 6 Runs

Jacoby Ellsbury, 9 for 45 (.200 avg) 3 Doubles, HR, 4 RBIs, 4 Walks, 5 Ks, 4 Runs, 3 SBs

Dustin Pedroia, 8 for 41 (.195 avg) 2 Doubles, HR, 6 RBIs, 4 Walks, 4 Ks, 4 Runs

Kevin Cash, 4 for 24 (.167 avg) Double, HR, 5 RBIs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks, 6 Runs

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Sean Danielson, 1 for 1 (1.000 avg)

Reid Engel, 3 for 4 (.750 avg) Double, Triple, 2 RBIs, 2 Runs

Mickey Hall, 2 for 3 (.667 avg) 3 RBIs, K, Run

Dusty Brown, 7 for 14 (.500 avg) HR, 2 RBIs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks, 3 Runs

Jeff Corsaletti, 2 for 4 (.500 avg) K, 3 Runs

Andrew Pinckney, 1 for 2 (.500 avg) HR, RBI, Run

Joe Thurston, 17 for 38 (.447 avg) Double, HR, 5 RBIs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks, 10 Runs, SB

Argenis Diaz, 6 for 14 (.429 avg) 3 RBIs, Walk, 4 Ks, 4 Runs

Junior Spivey, 2 for 5 (.400 avg) RBI, Walk, K

Gil Velazquez, 2 for 5 (.400 avg) 3 RBIs, 3 Walks, K, 3 Runs

George Kottaras, 7 for 19 (.368 avg) 4 Doubles, HR, 7 RBIs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks, 6 Runs

Brandon Moss, 15 for 42 (.357 avg) 2 Doubles, 2 HRs, 10 RBIs, 3 Walks, 9 Ks, 8 Runs, SB

Chris Carter, 14 for 41 (.341 avg) 6 Doubles, 8 RBIs, 2 Walks, 6 Ks, 8 Runs

Jeff Bailey, 4 for 14 (.286 avg) HR, 3 RBIs, 4 Walks, 4 Ks, 5 Runs

Jonathan Van Every, 6 for 21 (.286 avg) Double, HR, 3 RBIs, 3 Walks, 4 Ks, 3 Runs

Keith Ginter, 7 for 25 (.280 avg) 2 Doubles, 4 RBIs, 2 Walks, 8 Ks, 7 Runs

Aaron Bates, 1 for 4 (.250 avg) 2 Ks, 2 Runs

Doug Mirabelli, 3 for 13 (.231 avg) Double, RBI, 3 Walks, K, Run

Tony Granadillo, 1 for 8 (.125 avg) HR, 4 RBIs, 2 Ks, 2 Runs

Jed Lowrie, 5 for 42 (.119 avg) 3 RBIs, 5 Walks, 5 Ks, 7 Runs

Bobby Kielty, 2 for 18 (.111 avg) RBI, 4 Walks, 4 Ks, 3 Runs

Lars Anderson, 2 Walks

Bubba Bell, 0 for 1, 3 walks, K, 3 Runs

Zach Daeges, 0 for 3, Walk, K

Ryan Khoury, 0 for 7, Walk, K, 3 Runs

Christian Lara, Run

Jeff Natale, 0 for 3, 2 Ks

Bryan Pritz, 0 for 4

Chad Spann, 0 for 2, Walk, 2 Ks

Iggy Suarez, 0 for 1, Run

Rich Thompson, 0 for 4, K

Scott White, 0 for 1, K

 

Josh Beckett (1-0, 0.00 ERA)- 2 innings, 4 Ks

Michael Bowden (0.00 ERA)- 1 inning, K

Barry Hertzler (0.00 ERA)- 0.1 inning, 2 Hits

T.J. Large (0.00 ERA)- 0.1 inning, Hit, K

David Pauley (1-0, 0.00 ERA)- 2 innings, 2 Hits, Walk, K

Jon Switzer (1 save, 0.00 ERA)- 3.1 innings, K

Jose Vaquedano (1 save, 0.00 ERA)- 0.2 inning, K

Bryan Corey- (0.88 ERA)- 10.2 innings, 9 Hits, Run, Walk, 3 Ks

Manny Delcarmen (1.10 ERA)- 8.2 innings, 4 Hits, Run, 7 Ks

Justin Masterson (1-1, 1.50 ERA)- 6 innings, 6 Hits, Run, 2 Walks, 3 Ks

Javier Lopez (0-1, 2.00 ERA)- 9 innings, 10 Hits, 7 Runs (2 ER), 2 Walks, 7 Ks

Jonathan Papelbon (1-0, 2.00 ERA)- 9 innings, 4 Hits, 2 Runs, 8 Ks

Tim Wakefield (1-0, 2.00 ERA)- 9 innings, 7 Hits, 2 Runs, 5 Walks, 3 Ks

Kyle Snyder (3.46 ERA)- 13 innings, 9 Hits, 5 Runs, 4 Walks, 6 Ks, HR

Hideki Okajima (1-1, 3.91 ERA)- 9.2 innings, 8 Hits, 5 Runs (4 ER), 3 Walks, 3 Ks

David Aardsma (4.39 ERA)- 8.2 innings, 9 Hits, 4 Runs, 3 Walks, 9 Ks, 2 HRs

Daisuke Matsuzaka (1-1, 4.50 ERA)- 12 innings, 11 Hits, 6 Runs, 5 Walks, 8 Ks, 2 HRs

Devern Hansack (5.40 ERA)- 5 innings, 2 Hits, 3 Runs, 4 Walks, 5 Ks

Hunter Jones (0-1, 5.63 ERA)- 3.2 innings, 2 Hits, 4 Runs (2 ER), 3 Walks, 4 Ks, HR

Dan Kolb (1 save, 5.63 ERA)- 3.2 innings, 4 Hits, 2 Runs, 5 Walks, 3 Ks

Mike Timlin (5.63 ERA)- 8 innings, 9 Hits, 5 Runs, Walk, 5 Ks, 2 HRs

Craig Breslow (5.90 ERA)- 6.1 innings, 4 Hits, 5 Runs (4 ER), 7 Walks, 5 Ks

Jon Lester (1-0, 6.00 ERA)- 12 innings, 12 Hits, 9 Runs (8 ER), 7 Walks, 10 Ks

Michael Tejera (7.20 ERA)- 5 innings, 7 Hits, 4 Runs, 5 Walks, 3 Ks

Julian Tavarez (0-1, 7.36 ERA)- 11 innings, 16 Hits, 10 Runs (9 ER), 5 Walks, 5 Ks, 2 HRs

Beau Vaughan (9.00 ERA)- 1 inning, Hit, Run, 2 Walks, K

Clay Buchholz (1-2, 9.88 ERA)- 8.2 innings, 11 Hits, 9 Runs, 2 Walks, 7 Ks, 3 HRs

Craig Hansen (0-1, 10.16 ERA)- 6.2 innings, 7 Hits, 7 Runs, 6 Walks, 7 Ks

Lee Gronkiewicz (10.50 ERA)- 6 innings, 8 Hits, 7 Runs, 2 Walks, 8 Ks, 2 HRs

Bartolo Colon (20.45 ERA)- 2.2 innings, 5 Hits, 5 Runs, 4 Walks, 3 Ks, HR

Mike James (27.00 ERA)- 1 inning, 3 Hits, 3 Runs, Walk, 2 HRs

Kyle Jackson (27.00 ERA)- 0.1 inning, 2 Hits, 1 Run, Walk, HR

[jacksonianmarch]

Lester struggled with his command? No way.

[jacksonianmarch]

Buchholz got shitstomped today in his debut.

[riverside sluggers]

Bright side for him is that he battled back to retire 6 of the last 7 batters

 

 

Clay Buchholz was tagged for four runs and five hits in two innings by the Twins on Sunday.

 

Buchholz was knocked around well in his first inning of work, but two of the hits went off the gloves of outfielders Coco Crisp and Manny Ramirez and another was a seeing eye grounder through the infield. Fortunately, he still got through the frame with a low enough pitch count to stay in for the fourth and he was much better in his second inning of work.

[Gom]

We can only hope that Ellsbury, Lester, and Buchholz start the season in the minors. If that happens, the division race is finished before it even begins.

 

What I really don't get is how the Red Sox are HEAVY favorites to win the division. There was a two game gap between them and us last year. With Schilling out for the year, I think that by simple attrition, the gap is non-existent. I really think it's a flip of the coin.

[TheKilo]

We can only hope that Ellsbury' date=' Lester, and Buchholz start the season in the minors. [b']If that happens, the division race is finished before it even begins.

[/b]

 

What I really don't get is how the Red Sox are HEAVY favorites to win the division. There was a two game gap between them and us last year. With Schilling out for the year, I think that by simple attrition, the gap is non-existent. I really think it's a flip of the coin.

 

You make me laugh. Contradicting yourself in a matter of four sentences.

[Cocos Disciples]

We can only hope that Ellsbury, Lester, and Buchholz start the season in the minors. If that happens, the division race is finished before it even begins.

 

What I really don't get is how the Red Sox are HEAVY favorites to win the division. There was a two game gap between them and us last year. With Schilling out for the year, I think that by simple attrition, the gap is non-existent. I really think it's a flip of the coin.

 

a) Where was it suggested that those 3 would start in the minors?

 

We're not heavy favorites. Don't pull a Rodney Harrison here. The whole world hasn't counted you out.

[Gom]

You make me laugh. Contradicting yourself in a matter of four sentences.

C'mon Kilo. Read the whole post. For example, if Kennedy, Hughes, and Chamberlain are all in Triple A at the start of the season, you guys win the division by ten games. Same difference. Both teams are heavily counting on their young guys.

[riverside sluggers]

So Gom's hope is that the Sox will have an opening day outfield of Ramirez, Crisp, Drew and Kielty... and the starting rotation will be Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, with the last 2 spots being occupied by Tavarez/Snyder/Colon/Pauley/Hansack

[Gom]

So Gom's hope is that the Sox will have an opening day outfield of Ramirez' date=' Crisp, Drew and Kielty... and the starting rotation will be Beckett, Matsuzaka, Wakefield, with the last 2 spots being occupied by Tavarez/Snyder/Colon/Pauley/Hansack[/quote']

Yes. Wouldn't you want a rotation of Pettitte, Wang, Mussina, Igawa, and Chase Wright?

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

C'mon Kilo. Read the whole post. For example' date=' if Kennedy, Hughes, and Chamberlain are all in Triple A at the start of the season, you guys win the division by ten games. Same difference. Both teams are heavily counting on their young guys.[/quote']

 

Did you seriously proclaim the winner of the AL East division to be based on which prospects start the season with the MLB team?? Not to mention its the beginning of March...

 

Haven't you watched baseball long enough to know the season doesn't take full flight until August?? Both teams will probably have a much different look come the All Star break.

[BSN07]

Buchholz got shitstomped today in his debut.

 

Come on Jacko, your better then this. I'd expect the oral garbage from others here.

 

Your giving Lester s*** for being wild in his 1st Spring training start?

 

Your Bashing Buchholz for getting hit hard?

 

Have you not noticed threw your yrs of watching baseball, most of the best pitchers in the game get hammered for the first few weeks. Why is this? Because most of them just throw fastballs for the most part. Even a mediocore hitter can hit well against an elite pitcher if he knows that 90% of the pitchers he will see will be FB. And not even there best FB.

 

All these guys are just trying to get there arms in better shape for the beginning of the season. Of course theres gonna be rust and work that need to be done with them. So you and Gom just chill for a second:D

 

 

 

As for you Gom, Lester isn't starting the yr in AAA. If Buchholz and Ellsbury do its not the end of the division race as you seem to think it is. If Buchholz starts the yr in AAA, that means that Colon has shown he can be an adequate pitcher in the 5th spot and there no reason to rush Buchholz. He will be there insurance plan. Ellsbury could also start the yr in AAA. If Coco shows enough, and Kielty has shown he can be the 4th OF the yes Ellsbury will probably start in AAA. That way the Sox can showcase Coco and move him for a decent return.

 

You see Gom your team is in a position where it needs to play its youngsters and have them produce at a big level or your team is Fahhhked. We have enough depth to where we don't need to rush or youngsters. All things considered don't you think the Yankees would rather be in a postition to let, Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberlin mature and be well rounded by the time they get to the bigs, instead of throwing them out there and crossing there fingers and hope they help keep this team a float.

[schillingouttheks]

Wang got shitstomped in his spring training start today.

 

BTW, who the f*** is pitching for the Sox right now? He just blew the 3-run lead, and then proceeded to give up a grand slam putting the Dodgers ahead 9-5, and now he just gave up a double...all in the ninth. Whaaaaaaat?

 

EDIT...that'd be Hunter Jones. I don't think he'll be pitching anymore after he finally gets this last out.

 

lol he just walked another batter.

[VandaleIndustries]

Man I hate Texas... I can see a Red Sox spring training game on ESPN, so I was so excited I actually get to watch the sox. BUT NOOOOOOOO!!! Texas has decided to have near record snow fall and my satellite dish couldn't pick the game up worth s***!!! I don't get many opportunities to watch the Sox down here, so I'm really pissed when an opportunity is wasted.

[a700hitter]

I can see that Hansen still sucks. See the link for today's Box Score. He was a comp pick for who? They guy is not gaining any consistency since we've signed him.

 

http://boston.stats.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gamecode=280308102

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I can see that Hansen still sucks. See the link for today's Box Score. He was a comp pick for who? They guy is not gaining any consistency since we've signed him.

 

http://boston.stats.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gamecode=280308102

 

He has issues finding the strike zone. I saw him pitch once this spring where he was hitting 95 and had a good slider...but couldn't get it over the plate. Manny Delcarmen had the same issues when he was 24 and has gained consistency over the past couple seasons. I could see the same path for Craig Hansen. Luckily we don't need to rely on him this season, he can sit in AAA until he figures it out.

[riverside sluggers]

He signed a 4 year major league deal in 05 when he was drafted. Anyone knows what will happen this offseason due to that?

[jacksonianmarch]

He needs to be on the 25 man by the beginning of 09 or he passes through waivers.

[BSN07]

Hansen will be in AAA to start off. And unless he turns it around and makes the 25 man roster,then he probably be a part of some trade at the deadline for something the Sox need. It will be selling low, but the Sox won't get any kinda value if the have to place him on waivers. And there are plenty of teams out there ( including the Yanks ) that would take a flyer on him because of his age and upside.

[jacksonianmarch]

There are plenty of teams that would take a flyer on him. But right now, he's damaged goods. This is exactly why you dont rush a kid to the bigs. He is a mental midget. Some guys can handle it, others you need to slowly bring along. Hansen sounds like the latter.

[TheKilo]

Sleep apnea has nothing to do with it? I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt after his surgery.

[a700hitter]

Hansen is just a bust.

[redsoxrules]

OKI having a great spring thus far , I think we'll get another great season out of him

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Alright I've seen enough from Chris Carter to know this guy can hit. What a rough position though. Hard to say who is the better hitter between Carter and Youkilis but nobody will confuse the defense.

 

I wish we had somewhere to put the guy.

[soxfan17881]

I sat through that game today (Yankers 8, Sox 4). It was painful.