J.D. Drew

[Beckett95]

got injured once agian tonight (hamstring) and is just having a miserable year

 

.225 avg .346 obp .316 slg---you can not have these numbers from your #5 hitter

 

i personally wouldnt mind losing Drew to a 15 day DL stint, and hopefully he can fix things and come back strong. He atleast needs a mental D.L. trip cause somethings wrong if he only could hit .170 in the month of May.

 

id like to see him go on the D.L. and have them calling up Brandon Moss

 

he's having a pretty good year in AAA hitting .291 with an OBP of .393 and slg% of .525

 

have him and Willy Mo, who we all know is full of potential and has shown it in glimpses, split time in RF for the time being. I think Willy Mo will develop into a great MLB hitter, its just a matter of time and unfortunately we dont no when that time is. But playing time will definitely help.

 

1. Lugo

2. Pedroia

3. Ortiz

4. Manny

5. Youk

6. Lowell

7. Varitek

8. WMP/Moss

9. Crisp

 

id like to see how that lineup worked out

[jacksonianmarch]

Nice investment huh?

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

got injured once agian tonight (hamstring) and is just having a miserable year

 

.225 avg .346 obp .316 slg---you can not have these numbers from your #5 hitter

 

i personally wouldnt mind losing Drew to a 15 day DL stint, and hopefully he can fix things and come back strong. He atleast needs a mental D.L. trip cause somethings wrong if he only could hit .170 in the month of May.

 

id like to see him go on the D.L. and have them calling up Brandon Moss

 

he's having a pretty good year in AAA hitting .291 with an OBP of .393 and slg% of .525

 

have him and Willy Mo, who we all know is full of potential and has shown it in glimpses, split time in RF for the time being. I think Willy Mo will develop into a great MLB hitter, its just a matter of time and unfortunately we dont no when that time is. But playing time will definitely help.

 

1. Lugo

2. Pedroia

3. Ortiz

4. Manny

5. Youk

6. Lowell

7. WMP/Moss

8. Varitek

9. Crisp

 

id like to see how that lineup worked out

 

Lots of right handed batters. Not much you can do though....I bet you the Red Sox stick with Eric Hinske and Wily Mo taking up the at bats if Drew is out for a length of time. Get used to it everyone....this is what JD Drew does and we will have it for another 5 years.

[Cocos Disciples]

Nice investment huh?

 

Not really. But you're familiar with those.

[Beckett95]

f*** Hinske, guy is lucky enough to be on a MLB roster.

 

WMP has been playing well ever since that April 26th game against Baltimore. Since then he's been hitting over .300 and only has 9 K's to 4 BB's.

 

Id much rather give Moss a shot over Hinske though. Either way, Willy Mo should get about 75% of the playing time

 

since April 15th, Hinske is hitting .106 (5/47) with 5 BB and 14 K's

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

IF the Red Sox are smart they would bring up their best outfielder...Jacoby Ellsbury

[ANiMAL]

 

1. Lugo

2. Pedroia

3. Ortiz

4. Manny

5. Youk

6. Lowell

7. Varitek

8. WMP/Moss

9. Crisp

 

id like to see how that lineup worked out

 

 

The problem I have with your lineup is that Youk is fifth, the way he is performing wouldnt you want him higher in the lineup?

Also I don't like Lugo leading off, but I guess theres not much of a choice. I think Pedrioa deseves a shot at moving up in the lineup. I'd like to see him hit 8th soon. They should drastically move him to the beginning of the lineup. Keep him at his comfort level.

[ANiMAL]

IF the Red Sox are smart they would bring up their best outfielder...Jacoby Ellsbury

 

I wouldn't move him anywhere in the bigs unless we were out of outfeilders. We still have Hinske, Pena, Moss, even Youk as a spot starter in the OF. Unless we are down to no one, I would leave Ellsbury where he is at until 2008.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I wouldn't move him anywhere in the bigs unless we were out of outfeilders. We still have Hinske' date=' Pena, Moss, even Youk as a spot starter in the OF. Unless we are down to no one, I would leave Ellsbury where he is at until 2008.[/quote']

 

How come? He is already showing he can compete at AAA and he was strong at Spring Training. He is better in the field than all the guys you named. Kevin Youkilis will NOT be moved to the outfield. Ellsbury is very good on defense, a very disciplined hitter, and LOTS of speed. Sure I would give Brandon Moss a chance but Jacoby Ellsbury is the better player.

[ANiMAL]

How come? He is already showing he can compete at AAA and he was strong at Spring Training. He is better in the field than all the guys you named. Kevin Youkilis will NOT be moved to the outfield. Ellsbury is very good on defense' date=' a very disciplined hitter, and LOTS of speed. Sure I would give Brandon Moss a chance but Jacoby Ellsbury is the better player.[/quote']

 

He can compete in AAA, but he's not ready for the Majors. Yes, a .291 AVG in AAA is competing, but in order to move on in the MLB, you must be an all-star in AAA. You must be beyond competing and Ellsbury is not at that level yet. Let him stay put in AAA for the rest of the year to see how it pans out for him. If he ends up above .310 by the end of the year, than I think he will be ready for the next step.

[ORS]

Bring Ellsbury up if Coco gets hurt, because CF is where he ought play. He doesn't have the arm for RF. Moss does. And Moss brings pop with him. If Drew gets DL'd, Moss is the man.

[Mr Crunchy]

with the pitching being solid i take hinskes glove over penas bat

[Beckett95]

if Hinske was a gold-glove OF, then maybe id agree with that. But Hinske is an average at best OF who cant hit for s***. Id go with WMP or give Moss a shot.

[Mr Crunchy]

hinske is the guy who gets the runner to 3rd with 1 out

he hits the sac fly,he plays decent in 7 positions and is far less likely to blow a play in the outfield than pena

 

that said

i too would like pena to get 150 abs in a row without looking over his shoulder every time he screws himself in the dirt on a violent swing and miss

for whatever reason he could never beat anyone out of a job despite it being a given he'd hit 30hrs in 450-500abs....at times he looks like a .300 hitter by going the opposite way on outside breaking balls

other times he looks like the bastard son of jim rice's love child with his incredible power

and then

far too often he looks like rob deere wearing a blindfold shitfaced and in a hurry to get back to the dugout...an enigma and the kind of guy who gives gm's scouts and managers s*** pains in anxiety as well as hope and disappointment

all in 1 ab

our record gives us a lot of options thank christ

the team that we see tonite may not be the same team we see in october or august for that matter

its also easier to take seeing arroyo getting killed in cinci

for a while there he looked like cy material

[Thumper]

Nice investment huh?

 

You'll be eating those words when Clemens makes his first start.

[ksushi]

IF the Red Sox are smart they would bring up their best outfielder...Jacoby Ellsbury

 

Not true sir. If the Red Sox are smart they will protect their gem and leave him in AAA to blossom and call up Brandon Moss who walks well, hits well, runs well, and fields well.

[BSN07]

I think it be great to be able to leave Jacoby down in AAA all year. The more polished he is when he eventually comes up the more he will beable to contribute. When he comes up he should becoming up to stay. Let him blossom in AAA, and bring a Moss or a Murphy up. There speed is decent(Ellsbury is much faster obviously), Defence is good, and both have a little pop, and thats always good to have coming off the bench.

 

Bringing up Ellsbury right now is like banging a virgin. Its fun, it does the job but theres no on the job experience with them. Get a girl who has had some practice and refined her skills and its a much better ride?:thumbsup:

 

Mods, hope this isnt too explicit, if so feel free to edit:)

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

This seems to have turned into Brandon Moss vs. Jacoby Ellsbury

 

I like both players and both are posting good numbers in AAA. Here is how I see it...which one would have a better chance of keeping a job when JD Drew comes back? You can bet your ass that Brandon Moss will go back down. However, say the Red Sox bring up Ellsbury and move Coco to Drew's spot....if Ellsbury performs the way I think he would and gets hot....he may never leave CF

 

I think Brandon Moss would do a fine job to fill in but I'm also thinking on behalf of improving the club. I'm not a huge Coco Crisp fan (his bat sucks). Ellsbury can probably steal just as many bases as Coco and have a higher batting average, not to mention the defense would still be decent. I'm also thinking on the fact Julio Lugo isn't much of a leadoff man.

 

I don't believe in coddling players as much as some do. Jacoby Ellsbury is 23 years old, played college baseball, succeeded at every level, if the kid is that good....let him do it.

[riverside sluggers]

How would one of the 2 players stay when Drew gets back? And Im not sure about having Coco's arm in right field. His best asset this season has been his gold glove defense. Odds are that the Sox will not want to rush Ellsbury and instead promote Moss. If that were to happen, it still wouldnt rule out Ellsbury being called up

 

Regardless, of course Ellsbury has the brightest future with the Red Sox. Moss is likely to be dealt within the next year, most likely for relief help. What better way to showcase him before the trading deadline?

[ORS]

This seems to have turned into Brandon Moss vs. Jacoby Ellsbury

 

I like both players and both are posting good numbers in AAA. Here is how I see it...which one would have a better chance of keeping a job when JD Drew comes back? You can bet your ass that Brandon Moss will go back down. However, say the Red Sox bring up Ellsbury and move Coco to Drew's spot....if Ellsbury performs the way I think he would and gets hot....he may never leave CF

 

I think Brandon Moss would do a fine job to fill in but I'm also thinking on behalf of improving the club. I'm not a huge Coco Crisp fan (his bat sucks). Ellsbury can probably steal just as many bases as Coco and have a higher batting average, not to mention the defense would still be decent. I'm also thinking on the fact Julio Lugo isn't much of a leadoff man.

 

I don't believe in coddling players as much as some do. Jacoby Ellsbury is 23 years old, played college baseball, succeeded at every level, if the kid is that good....let him do it.

For me it's got nothing to do with coddling a player. Coco and Ellsbury lack the arm for RF, and Moss brings pop with him.

[ANiMAL]

How would one of the 2 players stay when Drew gets back? And Im not sure about having Coco's arm in right field. His best asset this season has been his gold glove defense. Odds are that the Sox will not want to rush Ellsbury and instead promote Moss. If that were to happen, it still wouldnt rule out Ellsbury being called up

 

Regardless, of course Ellsbury has the brightest future with the Red Sox. Moss is likely to be dealt within the next year, most likely for relief help. What better way to showcase him before the trading deadline?

 

Great idea, i love it.

[ANiMAL]

I think Moss will be better than Ellsbury right now in the majors. Moss has experience which is something Ellsbury doesnt have.

[TedWilliams101]

Bring up Moss for RF. To tell you the truth, I don't want to see WMP split the time in RF unless Moss was struggling at the plate. WMP is too much of a liability in RF to be playing often.

 

I'd also change up the Lineup.

Pedroia

Youkilis

Ortiz

Ramirez

Lowell

Varitek

Moss/WMP

Lugo

Crisp

 

Lugo simply doesn't get on base enough to be in the top of the lineup. Pedroia is slugging and getting on base, so I like him leading off. Youk is another big OBP guy, so the 2 spot is best for him.

 

Lowell you just have to move to the 5 spot. He is leading the team in HR, RBI, and 2nd in SLG. Think about it. Youkilis doesn't make sense in the 5 spot. Youkilis has some pop, but is mainly an OBP guy. OBP guys belong in the top of the lineup. Lowell, however, is showing ALOT of pop (HR and 2B) and production (41RBI), so he is best fit in the 5 spot.

[a700hitter]

Should have kept Nixon on the cheap and let some other team deal with Drew's case of vaginosis.

[Mr Crunchy]

drew??

SHOCKING ISNT IT

[Rodney Harrison]

Should have kept Nixon on the cheap and let some other team deal with Drew's case of vaginosis.

It seems like a good idea in retrospect, but Nixon had a horrible year last year and Nancy Drew was coming off one of his best offensive seasons..

[Mr Crunchy]

drew has been an every other year performer who never,not once played 150 games

damon,who we let walk,right wrong or indifferent,never played in less than 145 games i believe

 

this type of shitbag effort was very predictable

he may indeed turn it around #s wise but the boys heart just isnt in sync with the whole ""team 1st"" concept and giving 100% isnt in his character

 

he stays under the radar so long as we play 675 baseball

[Youk Of The Nation]

I think it be great to be able to leave Jacoby down in AAA all year. The more polished he is when he eventually comes up the more he will beable to contribute. When he comes up he should becoming up to stay. Let him blossom in AAA, and bring a Moss or a Murphy up. There speed is decent(Ellsbury is much faster obviously), Defence is good, and both have a little pop, and thats always good to have coming off the bench.

 

Bringing up Ellsbury right now is like banging a virgin. Its fun, it does the job but theres no on the job experience with them. Get a girl who has had some practice and refined her skills and its a much better ride?:thumbsup:

 

Mods, hope this isnt too explicit, if so feel free to edit:)

 

Wait, theres downsides to having sex with virgins?

[BSN07]

Jesus you guys would bitch about anything. Yes his numbers are down, but were in the first couple months of the season. Everyone wined that he wouldnt give it his all in the OF, and whats he do? Go balls out aand crashes into the wall and dings himself up, now everyone bitches hes not in the lineup. You either want a guy that sacrifices his body and misses some games or you want a guy to not go at everything like his ass is on fire and play everyday. Decide which player you would rather have and stick by it. Give the guy sometime to adjust for crying out loud. Hes in a new league(spent hole career in the NL), hes playing in one of the most pressure packed enviorments imagineable, and hes got people like most of us on his case if he doesnt hit .330 and hit 30 hrs. Atleast give the guy a season, instead of killing him after 3 months.

 

 

I know he can be questonable, but were stuck with him for 5 yrs or so, so man up and stop wining, were in 1st place and the team is doing fine without him, anything he contributes is a plus...

[BSN07]

Wait' date=' theres downsides to having sex with virgins?[/quote']

 

Naaa not really but it was the best analogy I could come up with at the time:thumbsup: