2007 Yankee Game Thread

[Mr Crunchy]

the sox lost a lot of swagger when petey left town

a lot of that can be regained after schilling puts 1 in his ear tonite

 

arods a f***ing ****,veritek proved it

sure he can hit,its april

the time when he shines and earns his 25M per

 

welcome back to boston missy

mass general beth israel and bumc are less than 5.00 cab rides from fenway

[ryanromine]

This was the most amazing comeback I have ever seen at the stadium. didn't.

 

The MOST amazing! You might wanna rethink that one! Consider the fact that you are a Yankees fan, but the last game of the 04 ALCS was the most AMAZING comeback at the stadium. Even my ex-fiance admitted that and she is a Yankees fan.

 

It's gonna be a good series. For Boston it's about pride because of what happened last year when they got swept. I'm setting my tivo for the two games they are showing down here.

[BudLight]

the sox lost a lot of swagger when petey left town

a lot of that can be regained after schilling puts 1 in his ear tonite

 

arods a f***ing ****,veritek proved it

sure he can hit,its april

the time when he shines and earns his 25M per

 

welcome back to boston missy

mass general beth israel and bumc are less than 5.00 cab rides from fenway

 

Crunch

 

When the **** opts out of his Yankee contract after the season and the Sox enter the bidding war for his services, will he be welcomed with open arms on Yawkey Way? :dunno:

[jacksonianmarch]

the sox lost a lot of swagger when petey left town

a lot of that can be regained after schilling puts 1 in his ear tonite

 

arods a f***ing ****,veritek proved it

sure he can hit,its april

the time when he shines and earns his 25M per

 

welcome back to boston missy

mass general beth israel and bumc are less than 5.00 cab rides from fenway

 

ARod has NEVER hit like this. 1 for 5, a walkoff homer? Typically he hits the homer in the 1st and K's in the big spot. Even in april.

[Gom]

The MOST amazing! You might wanna rethink that one! Consider the fact that you are a Yankees fan, but the last game of the 04 ALCS was the most AMAZING comeback at the stadium. Even my ex-fiance admitted that and she is a Yankees fan.

 

It's gonna be a good series. For Boston it's about pride because of what happened last year when they got swept. I'm setting my tivo for the two games they are showing down here.

 

I wasn't talking about a series comeback. One game comeback. The greatest comeback in my mind is the 78 Yankees.

[Gom]

Crunch

 

When the **** opts out of his Yankee contract after the season and the Sox enter the bidding war for his services, will he be welcomed with open arms on Yawkey Way? :dunno:

 

 

What planet do you live on?

[Gom]

AROD on a tear! Hes on my fantasy team so he can do ok against the Sox this weekend but everyone else has to suck ass!LOL

 

This is why I despise fantasy baseball. It makes you root for players AGAINST your favorite team.

[BudLight]

What planet do you live on?

 

It was nearly a done deal before the Yankees signed him. There are only two teams besides the Yankees that would pay him the money Boras will be seeking, the Cubs and Red Sox.

[Gom]

It was nearly a done deal before the Yankees signed him. There are only two teams besides the Yankees that would pay him the money Boras will be seeking' date=' the Cubs and Red Sox.[/quote']

 

Umm...are you forgetting that the Rangers would have been paying 8-10 million of his yearly salary if was to play for the Sox?

 

Arod is playing in either A) Yankees Angels C) Dodgers (long-shot)

 

First of all, he doesn't go to the Cubs. They won't have the money after the 200 million they spent, and I can't see them signing BOTH Zambrano and Arod. Why would Arod go there with no pitching staff? Lou Pinella? Now that's funny.

 

Red Sox? Not unless you off-load Martinez. Remember, that was the plan when you almost got him. I can't see the Red Sox competing with the Yankees on this one. Not even close. This isn't a blind auction where everyone has the same chance. Hats off to your front office for getting him, but do you really think you would have got him in a real bidding war? I highly doubt it.

 

Angels, because Moreno is drooling for him and has all but said they would open the bank for him, and the Dodgers, simply because they are the only other big market team who can. Expect all the teams listed to get involved, if only to draw the price up for the eventual winner.

 

Like I said, I hope he stays. The best fit for both player and team is the way it is. However, logic rarely is a word associated with Arod.

 

Think about this..if he does opt out, he will forfeit 81 of his 252 million contract. The fact remains that even if he signs a 10 year, 200 million dollar contract, he will probably lose money.

 

In order for him to average 20 million a year over the next year, he either opts out and gets it, or waits for three years, and signs a 7 year, 119 million contract. Which do you think is more likely to happen, fiscally? Don't forget to factor in inflation either.

 

The more I think about it, the more sense it makes for him to stay, from a fiscal standpoint. Then again, who knows?

[jacksonianmarch]

pssst. Bud Light is a yankee fan.

[Gom]

pssst. Bud Light is a yankee fan.

 

Proof positive why I come here instead of Yankee sites.

[Cocos Disciples]

Gom, who's Martinez? You mean Ramirez?

[BudLight]

Gom

 

A lot of folks said Drew would not get more money than what the Dodgers were paying him. As far as the Cubs go, Aramis Ramirez is not a factor, ARod would go back to shortstop. Also, I'm not a Red Sox fan, I'm a Yankee fan and not an A-Rod fan. I give him all the props for the numbers he puts up, but I just don't like the drama that surrounds him. Would rather have a gamer at third base who puts up half of ARods numbers. That $16M a year the Yankees are paying him would go a long way in securing some starting pitching. The Rangers are on the hook for the $6M difference in his $22.7M he's receiving this year.

[Gom]

Gom' date=' who's Martinez? You mean Ramirez?[/quote']

 

Same difference...yes, that's who I meant.

Gom

 

A lot of folks said Drew would not get more money than what the Dodgers were paying him. As far as the Cubs go, Aramis Ramirez is not a factor, ARod would go back to shortstop. Also, I'm not a Red Sox fan, I'm a Yankee fan and not an A-Rod fan. I give him all the props for the numbers he puts up, but I just don't like the drama that surrounds him. Would rather have a gamer at third base who puts up half of ARods numbers. That $16M a year the Yankees are paying him would go a long way in securing some starting pitching. The Rangers are on the hook for the $6M difference in his $22.7M he's receiving this year.

 

Arod's salary is 27.7 million this year, of which the Rangers are paying 8 or 9 million.

 

Drew was making 11 million a year over 3 years. He got 11 million a year over 5 years.

 

Can you see Arod making 27 million a year no matter what contract he signs? I don't.

 

As for the drama, etc., if the Yankees lose Arod, their best right handed power hitter is Jeter. If he leaves, our run of first place AND playoff appearances is OVER. Just who do you plan to replace him with at third base with next year's free agent class? Eric Duncan? Please.

 

You know, I remember watching Yankee games where the entire outfield upper deck was closed off. I remember when 30,000 fans meant a GREAT crowd. I remember being excited about Dave Lapoint.

 

We have been amazingly spoiled by this team. Winning isn't our birthright. I love Mo, Jeter, etc. However, the BEST player, bar none, that has worn the pinstripes in my lifetime is Arod. It's not even close.

 

Put it to you this way...he has a decent chance of hitting more homeruns this month than Jeter will hit ALL YEAR. The guy has pretty much put a hammerlock on the MVP award already, and it's only April. If he just hits 5 homeruns a month for the rest of the year, while going homerless for the rest of this month, he has 35. Guess how much he had last year? 35. Do you really think he will average only one homerun a week the rest of the year?

[jacksonianmarch]

Drew got 14mil over 5 yrs.

[yankees228]

Farns can break triple digits regularly and sits 98-99. Paps sits 93-94. Either way' date=' knowing Farns, he'd try to hit him and give up a homer.[/quote']

 

To be fair, Farnsworth has been between 92-95 in the early part of the season.

[BudLight]

Same difference...yes, that's who I meant.

 

Arod's salary is 27.7 million this year, of which the Rangers are paying 8 or 9 million.

 

Drew was making 11 million a year over 3 years. He got 11 million a year over 5 years.

 

Drew gets $14M this year

 

Can you see Arod making 27 million a year no matter what contract he signs? I don't.

 

Sure, he's in the area of $25M a year range now.

 

As for the drama, etc., if the Yankees lose Arod, their best right handed power hitter is Jeter. If he leaves, our run of first place AND playoff appearances is OVER. Just who do you plan to replace him with at third base with next year's free agent class? Eric Duncan? Please.

 

Duncan's not ready for the prime time yet. If the Cubs don't figure out a way to win this year, expect a fire sale, that could include Aramis Ramirez in the off-season.

You know, I remember watching Yankee games where the entire outfield upper deck was closed off. I remember when 30,000 fans meant a GREAT crowd. I remember being excited about Dave Lapoint.

 

I went to high school with Dave LaPoint, small world

 

We have been amazingly spoiled by this team. Winning isn't our birthright. I love Mo, Jeter, etc. However, the BEST player, bar none, that has worn the pinstripes in my lifetime is Arod. It's not even close.

 

"This Team" hasn't produced a World Championship. Obviously something is missing.

 

Put it to you this way...he has a decent chance of hitting more homeruns this month than Jeter will hit ALL YEAR. The guy has pretty much put a hammerlock on the MVP award already, and it's only April. If he just hits 5 homeruns a month for the rest of the year, while going homerless for the rest of this month, he has 35. Guess how much he had last year? 35. Do you really think he will average only one homerun a week the rest of the year?

 

Please stop comparing A-rod with Jeter. Jeter is not a power hitter. He gets his 200+ hits per year but is not and has not been relied upon to produce the power numbers for the Yankees.

[Gom]

Jacko, thanks for correcting me. I can't see a player opting out to make less money per year.

 

The point, Budlight, is the Yankees have NO POWER from the right side whatsoever without Arod. Basically, teams will be signing up bat boys to pitch against the Yankees if they are left-handed.

 

They would need a power hitting 3b who is right-handed. They have the best one in the game, and he is making more money here than he would elsewhere. Regardless, it's a perfect fit, no matter what the Sox fans tell you. Like Ortiz in Boston, just fits perfectly.

 

By the way, Farnsworth has the title of the most-hated Yankee. I could care less how fast he throws. The problem is that the hitter hits it back faster. Often. In fact, almost every time they swing. f*** Farnsworth, that f***ing f***.

 

Sorry for the language. I think if I ever saw Farnsworth and Pavano together in public, there would be a double-homicide, administered with only 3rd grade art materials.

 

I am starting to think I should see someone professionally.

[TheKilo]

Jacko, thanks for correcting me. I can't see a player opting out to make less money per year.

 

The point, Budlight, is the Yankees have NO POWER from the right side whatsoever without Arod. Basically, teams will be signing up bat boys to pitch against the Yankees if they are left-handed.

 

They would need a power hitting 3b who is right-handed. They have the best one in the game, and he is making more money here than he would elsewhere. Regardless, it's a perfect fit, no matter what the Sox fans tell you. Like Ortiz in Boston, just fits perfectly.

 

By the way, Farnsworth has the level of the most-hated Yankee. I could care less how fast he throws. The problem is that the hitter hits it back faster. Often. In fact, almost every time they swing. f*** him.

 

If ARod has a less than stellar postseason (assuming the Yankees make it) or folds down the stretch, will the fit be as good?

 

Time will tell...

[BudLight]

Jacko, thanks for correcting me. I can't see a player opting out to make less money per year.

 

The point, Budlight, is the Yankees have NO POWER from the right side whatsoever without Arod. Basically, teams will be signing up bat boys to pitch against the Yankees if they are left-handed.

 

They would need a power hitting 3b who is right-handed. They have the best one in the game, and he is making more money here than he would elsewhere. Regardless, it's a perfect fit, no matter what the Sox fans tell you. Like Ortiz in Boston, just fits perfectly.

 

By the way, Farnsworth has the title of the most-hated Yankee. I could care less how fast he throws. The problem is that the hitter hits it back faster. Often. In fact, almost every time they swing. f*** Farnsworth, that f***ing f***.

 

Sorry for the language. I think if I ever saw Farnsworth and Pavano together in public, there would be a double-homicide, administered with only 3rd grade art materials.

 

I am starting to think I should see someone professionally.

 

They would need some power from the right side, and talent wise he is one of if not the best in the game. I just don't see Boras convincing him to stay in New York after this season. He will be the highest paid player in the game regardless of where he plays. the Yankees have many positions they will need to start addressing over the next few years, they are not getting any younger.

[Gom]

He is making 27.7 million a year this year. I can't see an AAV of 28 million from anyone, even the Yankees. I don't think he's going to take a pay cut, do you?

[BudLight]

He is making 27.7 million a year this year. I can't see an AAV of 28 million from anyone' date=' even the Yankees. I don't think he's going to take a pay cut, do you?[/quote']

 

It really depends on which A-Rod makes the decision. Will the taunting from the crowd and his wanting to play his natural position of SS factor in, I think so. He can play anywhere else, except Boston, and not be subjected to the ridicule he faces from the fans and the media. A little less money for a more relaxed atmosphere, I believe he might take that option. Only time and Alex will tell. Stay tuned!!

 

If he gets a 7-9 year deal at $20-25M per year, it's not a pay cut in the long run and he knows he can finish his career with the team he moves to.

[jacksonianmarch]

he wont get anything more than 20 mil a season on the open market. He is going to be 32 and likely will command a deal that takes him to 39 or 40.

[ORS]

Regardless' date=' it's a perfect fit, no matter what the Sox fans tell you.[/quote']

I can assure you of two things. One, ARod gives two shits about how much the "fit" is with the Yankees. Two, he cares even less what Sox fans are posting on message boards. Other than that, good point.

[jacksonianmarch]

he is right, if we lose ARod we have some serious problems with matchups. Posada would move up to cleanup so he could breakup the lefty bumblef***.

[ORS]

he is right' date=' if we lose ARod we have some serious problems with matchups. Posada would move up to cleanup so he could breakup the lefty bumblef***.[/quote']

Did I disagree that you need him? No. I just want to know what that has to do with his decision. It gives him leverage in a negotiation, but he's not going to go soft and say, "I want to opt out, but the Yankees really need me, so I'll stay".

[TheKilo]

We all know the reason ARod will stay is because he is becoming a true Yankee.

 

Jeter is showing him the ways of the intangibles and calm eyes.

[Gom]

Did I disagree that you need him? No. I just want to know what that has to do with his decision. It gives him leverage in a negotiation' date=' but he's not going to go soft and say, "I want to opt out, but the Yankees really need me, so I'll stay".[/quote']

 

No, it's not that he will stay because of it, its just that it makes the most sense for him.

 

1) Best chance of post-season play of ANY team in baseball, therefore, statistically giving him the best chance at winning a World Series

 

2) Team's biggest hole would be his position in the field AND at the plate if he left, thereby increasing his value to the team.

 

3) Pay cut to his AAV if he leaves.

 

4) Great place to play if you win

 

vs.

 

1) Relaxed atmosphere of Anaheim/Cubs...less pressure to perform

 

2) Decreased AAV, but overall increased dollar value of contract [which would go down again if he just finished his damn deal and then signed with whoever]

 

3) Worst place to play in baseball if you lose.

 

I'm sure you can weigh in on the pros and cons, but overall, from his viewpoint, and I know I am guessing here, I just don't see how it makes any sense if he leaves.

 

The better he plays, the more I think he stays. New York will embrace this guy, hell, they already have, if he faces adversity and comes back. You, off all people, collectively as Red Sox fans, should understand that.

[schillingouttheks]

The better he plays' date=' the more I think he stays. New York will embrace this guy, hell, they already have, if he faces adversity and comes back. You, off all people, collectively as Red Sox fans, should understand that.[/quote']

 

I've never seen a guy be more hated by his hometown fans than A-Rod.

 

Buckner, maybe, but that's a different story.

[Optimist]

A Rod...

 

...what more can be said at this point?