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I just thought I'd bring up the topic of Nixon's future. His contract is up at the end of this year? What's a ballpark estimate of how much he's worth/will be given. I have a feeling we won't sign him to justify the Arroyo/Pena trade. I really love Nixon and I hope his solid ways and softspoken ways have carried some weight in his 10 or so years here. However, I have a feeling management will do the same as they did with Nomar/Pedro/Damon etc. Thoughts?
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I don't think Trot will ask for unreasonable contracts the way Nomar, Pedro and Damon did. Considering he isn't young and his body is beat up, I don't think he's really in a position to demand a lot of years for a lot of money either. I see this more as being a situation like Bill Mueller rather than Johnny Damon where management will weigh whether or not it's time to move on but I think he'll stay
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IMO when the Sox traded for WMP it became clear what Trot’s future was after this season.

 

I think if he stays healthy and continues to produce offensively then he’s in a good position to land himself a decent 3 or 4 year deal when the season ends. He’s at that point in his career when it will probably be his last opportunity to get anything longterm. Business is business and it will be sad to see him go, but understandable.

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Too bad Wily Mo is much better in center than right. He makes me nervous in right, and I think (if I remember correctly) they played in mostly in center before his injury, and stopped putting him in right. Trot knows right field like no one else. He is the definition of a red sox and is one of the hardest workers on the team. I think that Wily Mo is going to have to prove that he can play right before Nixon goes. But I won't be surprised if Trot isn't here next year.
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scary thing is we havent heard anything regarding an extension or any type of negotiations from either camp

its painfully evident that the sox will let him go

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I originally wouldn't have minded if we traded manny and got something good out of the deal, and stuck Wily Mo in left. But I guess Manny wants to stay in Boston now and he hasn't been "manny being manny" really this year so........ If we trade Manny we lose that 3, 4 punch. I know this isn't even a real consideration. I just don't want to see Trot go
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If we see progression in Wily Mo' date=' he will likely be gone. If Wily Mo isn't quite ready yet, why not sign him to a 1 year contract, then let him go?[/quote']

 

because he can do better than a 1-year deal by going elsewhere.

 

the phrase "if Wily Mo isn't quite ready yet" is a perfect leadin to how much I hated and still hate the Arroyo deal. A decent, innings eating starter for what, a potentially platooning, maybe someday regular outfielder who can't hit a curve?

 

I'd love to be proven wrong in the long-run, but waiting for that time to come hurts when you've given up pitching.

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because he can do better than a 1-year deal by going elsewhere

 

especially if he stays healthy and keeps his numbers where they are

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The Sox will offer him arbitration and that is likely all. They don't trust him enough to stay healthy for an extended period of time.

 

I disagree, I feel they will offer him somewhere in the ball park of 2 years 16 million, which if Nixon truly wants to finish his career here he should accept. Throwing Milly Mo Pena in RF everyday makes me one nervous fellow. I bet if the Sox FO knew that Trot would bounce back like this, we would still have Bronson Arroyo.

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I disagree, I feel they will offer him somewhere in the ball park of 2 years 16 million, which if Nixon truly wants to finish his career here he should accept. Throwing Milly Mo Pena in RF everyday makes me one nervous fellow. I bet if the Sox FO knew that Trot would bounce back like this, we would still have Bronson Arroyo.

 

Trot is a nice player and all but he is not an 8 million dollar a year player. If the Sox truly wanted nixon back they would have never traded for Pena. The writing is on the wall for nixon with Pena here. The Red Sox will make a business decision by offering the arbitration to net them 2 draft picks.

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Trot is a nice player and all but he is not an 8 million dollar a year player. If the Sox truly wanted nixon back they would have never traded for Pena. The writing is on the wall for nixon with Pena here. The Red Sox will make a business decision by offering the arbitration to net them 2 draft picks.

 

How the hell do you know what Pena is going to be. Nixon just is good for a ball club and it would be a mistake not to retain him for next season. I am not high on Willy Mo.

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How the hell do you know what Pena is going to be. Nixon just is good for a ball club and it would be a mistake not to retain him for next season. I am not high on Willy Mo.

 

Well the Red Sox see potentially a power hitting corner outfielder who is 24 years old unlike a 32 yr old outfielder on the downside of his career. My predicition is arbitration is offered, Sox don't make a real offer and Nixon walks with the Sox netting 2 first round picks.

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im not as optimistic as some are on wily mo

i find him a tremendous liability in the field and a guy with some serious bad habits at the plate

he will hit for power,he may be a .300 hitter too but on this team he needs to a patient hitter who can go to all fields and grab up a few bbs along the way

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im not as optimistic as some are on wily mo

i find him a tremendous liability in the field and a guy with some serious bad habits at the plate

he will hit for power,he may be a .300 hitter too but on this team he needs to a patient hitter who can go to all fields and grab up a few bbs along the way

 

I say go after Andruw Jones during Free Agency, but I suppose i could live with Willy Mo but who knows if he is going to hit 40 Hrs.

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Well the Red Sox see potentially a power hitting corner outfielder who is 24 years old unlike a 32 yr old outfielder on the downside of his career. My predicition is arbitration is offered, Sox don't make a real offer and Nixon walks with the Sox netting 2 first round picks.
IMO its a mistake to let seasoned veterans walk that have proven they can play in Boston and be productive despite intense media scrutiny. Also, Trot is a clubhouse leader. WMP should be the 4th OF in 2007 and he should be groomed to take 1B when Lowell's contract expires. f*** the picks. Getting two picks to let Nixon walk is not a good move.
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IMO its a mistake to let seasoned veterans walk that have proven they can play in Boston and be productive despite intense media scrutiny. Also, Trot is a clubhouse leader. WMP should be the 4th OF in 2007 and he should be groomed to take 1B when Lowell's contract expires. f*** the picks. Getting two picks to let Nixon walk is not a good move.

 

Yes and having 6 homeruns at the All-star break from a #5 hitter is good as well. He's not worth the money and is on the downside of 30. Get the picks while you can for this guy because you never can count on him to stay healthy.

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Yes and having 6 homeruns at the All-star break from a #5 hitter is good as well. He's not worth the money and is on the downside of 30. Get the picks while you can for this guy because you never can count on him to stay healthy.
He's an uderrated fielder that flawlessly handles the toughest RF in baseball. His power output is down but he is getting on-base numbers are good and he is playing a key role in this lineup. The percentage of draft choices that pan out is so small that getting two picks for Nixon is essentially meaningless.
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Use him as trade bait by the deadline.. if anyone would take him, its evident he's not coming back
If he did not want to come back, I would agree, but the evidence is to the contrary. I don't see any reason for the Sox to be desperate to unload him. This is not like Nomar who clearly had no interest in re-signing with the Sox.
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If he did not want to come back, I would agree, but the evidence is to the contrary. I don't see any reason for the Sox to be desperate to unload him. This is not like Nomar who clearly had no interest in re-signing with the Sox.

 

He may want to come back. But whats to say the Red Sox even want him back at his age, his diminished offensive power, and at his current price.

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He may want to come back. But whats to say the Red Sox even want him back at his age, his diminished offensive power, and at his current price.
If the Red Sox decide not to bring him back, I would doubt that they have made a final decision about that in July, so I don't think they would be desperate to unload him at the trading deadline.

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