John Smoltz??

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I watched the game on ESPN the other night and they were discussing the possible availability of John Smoltz. They even had a interview with him talking about that chance to move on. John Smoltz mentioned its part of the game for struggling teams to trade veterans for young talent and is ready for a move.

 

Instead of discussing pitchers who will cost an arm and a leg we could talk about a true experienced veteran who has tons of playoff experience and still has great stuff on the mound. Smoltz may only be good for a year (maybe 2) at the close age of 40 but he still has the pitches and velocity to win ball games and would certainly solidify our starting rotation.

 

Considering the Atlanta Braves may be losing Andrew Jones to free agency this is a team who could have a few holes. Marcus Giles is another player who could be moving on so perhaps the Red Sox would be willing to move Dustin Pedroia and David Murphy for John Smoltz.

 

Thoughts?

[jsinger121]

murphy yes....pedroia no

[Anuj09]

pretty sick outfield if they had Franceour and Murphy, howz their right fielder ?

[Beckett95]

pretty sick outfield if they had Franceour and Murphy, howz their right fielder ?

 

Langerhans possibly, they have a lot of options.

 

What about moving Van Buren/Alvarez, Murphy and maybe a low level decent guy for him?

[jsinger121]

Langerhans possibly, they have a lot of options.

 

What about moving Van Buren/Alvarez, Murphy and maybe a low level decent guy for him?

 

If anyone thinks the red sox are going to swindle smoltz away from schurholtz and the braves for something very little they are wrong.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

What about moving Van Buren/Alvarez, Murphy and maybe a low level decent guy for him?

 

The more I think about it that makes more sense. Not just for the Red Sox but for the Braves who are in serious need of young arms in the pen. Those guys (especially Alvarez) may be better in the NL.

 

If anyone thinks the red sox are going to swindle smoltz away from schurholtz and the braves for something very little they are wrong.

 

but you wouldn't give up Dustin Pedroia for him?? I don't see Pedroia having a future with the Red Sox....he doesn't have enough power. He would be better suited for NL baseball.

[Papelbon58]

I would not move pedroia for Smoltz. We are talking about a future starting middle infielder with great potential. We have other guys we could move for Smoltz, but the AL/NL question comes up and I really don't think you are going to get Smoltz for less than a can't miss prospect, not from the Braves

[CrespoBlows]

but you wouldn't give up Dustin Pedroia for him?? I don't see Pedroia having a future with the Red Sox....he doesn't have enough power. He would be better suited for NL baseball.

 

How much HR's do you need to hit to be a 2B?

[jsinger121]

Loretta is getting up there in age and I don't expect the Red Sox to resign him. Outside of some minor injuries that have hurt his stats a bit pedroia has tore through the minors.

[ksushi]

I would consider moving pedroia but would prefer not to. The ideal trade to me would be Murphy and Bucholz. I would do that for Smoltz. I would keep Pedroia in my back pocket to throw in if I absolutely knew it would get the deal done.

[a700hitter]

I would not move pedroia for Smoltz. We are talking about a future starting middle infielder with great potential. We have other guys we could move for Smoltz, but the AL/NL question comes up and I really don't think you are going to get Smoltz for less than a can't miss prospect, not from the Braves

I'd trade Pedroia for Smoltz in a heartbeat. We have Lowry to step in for Pedroia.

[Beckett95]

I dont see how the Braves front office would pass up Smoltz for Pedroia.

[example1]

I'd trade Pedroia for Smoltz in a heartbeat. We have Lowry to step in for Pedroia.

 

I think the sox are already competitive this year, they don't need to trade their future during a season the FO has already called a "retooling" period. We all believe that they will be one of the best teams in the next few years, so why trade Pedroia for a 40 y.o. starting pitcher? If anything use him in a deal for a Zito or a Willis, but not Smoltz.

[CrespoBlows]

I'd do it. The Braves probably wouldn't.

[jsinger121]

The braves have giles....they have no use for pedroia

[Beckett95]

Giles could be traded, but the Braves think Betemit might be there long term 2nd baseman. Pedroia could play SS for them.

 

They really have no use for Smoltz as he is old and they are out of the playoff race. The only thing is is that smoltz has been there his whole career, which is pretty big

[a700hitter]

I think the sox are already competitive this year, they don't need to trade their future during a season the FO has already called a "retooling" period. We all believe that they will be one of the best teams in the next few years, so why trade Pedroia for a 40 y.o. starting pitcher? If anything use him in a deal for a Zito or a Willis, but not Smoltz.

Because Smoltz can put the team over the top. Pedroia may never be better than Frank Mennechino.

[RedSoxRooter]

I believe the Braves would do a Smoltz for Hansen deal. Not that I would or wouldn't. Just saying it's the only move that makes sense for the Braves.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Because Smoltz can put the team over the top. Pedroia may never be better than Frank Mennechino.

 

When talking about Lester and Hansen I'm not too excited but Dustin Pedroia for a top of the rotation ace.....absolutly.

 

The ultimate goal is to win the World series. If the Red Sox were to lose Dustin Pedroia it would not by any means cripple there future. John Smoltz (all time leader in playoff wins I believe) would be a huge upgrade and give us an amazing rotation. As much as I like Jon Lester in the rotation....just think if we got David Wells back.

 

Schilling, Smoltz, and Wells are three great pitchers to have in the playoffs. Not to mention we still have Josh Beckett (good success in the playoffs) and Tim Wakefield (extremely reliable). With a rotation like that I could see the Red Sox creating space in the division and being set up well for a strong playoff run.

 

It is possible to work with the Braves on a deal....we already did it once this season.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I believe the Braves would do a Smoltz for Hansen deal. Not that I would or wouldn't. Just saying it's the only move that makes sense for the Braves.

 

I wouldn't trade Hansen for Smoltz if it was Smoltz 3 years ago, let alone now.

[RedSoxRooter]

I must admit that a small, annoying part of me would love to see Smoltz in a Sox uniform. Maybe even as a closer and move Pap to the rotation??? Hmm. Me thinks I likes, but it's absurd. Crazy brain.

[ImissPedro]

with the retiring of schilling after next year, who would want two 40 yeaer old starters for only a year?? it leaves two major holes in the rotation after next year and sacrafices too much young talent, this would not be a good move

[Matt]

The Braves need pitching. They won't trade Smoltz unless they get young, talented pitching in return. If Smoltz goes anywhere, it will be his hometown of Detroit. Possibly for Zumaya or some minor league pitching prospects.

[jsinger121]

The tigers would be foolish to trade Zumaya for smoltz

[ksushi]

Wait, Schill the Natural, you didn't make one coherent point in your post. Would you actually trade Lester Hansen and Pedroia for Smoltz? Thats insane! I would not trade Lester for anything right now, or Hansen, trading Pedroia is doable but christ, man, Lester or Hansen? That makes no sense! A half year of good pitching and next year who knows from Smoltz in exchange for six years of solid pitching potentially from those two?!?! Thats nuts.

[DUSTINMOHR4LIFE]

i really don't think that the Sox will trade Pedroia. I don't think Smoltz is the type of pitcher we need. We need a back of rotation starter on the cheap, not a 40 year old 'ace' for a couple of good prospects.

[a700hitter]

i really don't think that the Sox will trade Pedroia. I don't think Smoltz is the type of pitcher we need. We need a back of rotation starter on the cheap, not a 40 year old 'ace' for a couple of good prospects.

We need a top of the rotation guy to compete in the playoffs. A top three of Schilling, Smoltz and Beckett would be very solid and would give the Sox an excellent chance of advancing through the playoffs.

[ksushi]

i really don't think that the Sox will trade Pedroia. I don't think Smoltz is the type of pitcher we need. We need a back of rotation starter on the cheap, not a 40 year old 'ace' for a couple of good prospects.

 

The reason most people want a guy on the cheap is because getting a top of the rotation guy by trade will cost the teams future... all of it. If Smoltz could come to Boston for Pedroia its a no brainer, IMO. If Smoltz could come to Boston for something like MDC, Murphy and Soto? I would also do it.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Wait, Schill the Natural, you didn't make one coherent point in your post. Would you actually trade Lester Hansen and Pedroia for Smoltz? Thats insane! I would not trade Lester for anything right now, or Hansen, trading Pedroia is doable but christ, man, Lester or Hansen? That makes no sense! A half year of good pitching and next year who knows from Smoltz in exchange for six years of solid pitching potentially from those two?!?! Thats nuts.

 

Woah woah what?? Where the hell did I say I would trade Hansen or Lester for Smoltz?? I think I stated twice that I am not interested in trading either of them for anything. I might be the biggest Jon Lester fan here....I think you didn't read my post correctly. I said I am not excited about trading either of them.

 

I said I would be willing to trade Dustin Pedroia for John Smoltz.

[DUSTINMOHR4LIFE]

Taking a look at Smoltz's stats, his K/9 has decreased, but his BB/9 has also increased to a so-so 3.52. His ERA has also fell for 4 straight seasons. A good sign is that his BABIP is at a good .297, which could go up, but also could go down.