The Yankee Thread

[redsoxrules]

i just read something interesting , after the yanks won saturday's game against the o's johhny hit the go ahead homerun and afterwards said that was the best swing of his, 12 year career :wtf: is he a f***ing moron or what

[Optimist]

:wtf: is he a f***ing moron or what

 

Irony.

[Cocos Disciples]

Haha, second place cafe...good stuff

[RedRuffing15]

i just read something interesting , after the yanks won saturday's game against the o's johhny hit the go ahead homerun and afterwards said that was the best swing of his, 12 year career :wtf: is he a f***ing moron or what

May I inquire to why hes a f***ing moron becuase that was his best swing?

[CrespoBlows]

Marino= Past/Now

Papelbon=Now/Future

 

 

 

I think thats what everyones been trying to get across

 

I didn't know Dan Marino was a closer?

 

[RedRuffing15]

I didn't know Dan Marino was a closer?

 

Well...he closed a lot of games against the Jets.

[Optimist]

Andy Phillips continues his streak of hot hitting with the 3 run HR.

 

He's definitely convincing the team he deserves to play every day.

[Optimist]

...why is Mo in the game?

[a700hitter]

Joe wants to nail down this victory?

[Pinstripe_Pride]

Long goes down, Green comes up.

[mtbykr]

i just read something interesting , after the yanks won saturday's game against the o's johhny hit the go ahead homerun and afterwards said that was the best swing of his, 12 year career :wtf: is he a f***ing moron or what

 

 

He said it's the best swing of his career, not the best HR! I didn't see it but my wife's uncle (big yanker fan:wetodd: ) was there and it sounded like a long blast!

[a700hitter]

I have a question for Yankee fans. Why in Jeter's absence is Cairo playing SS? There were two plays last night that ARod would have made. ARod would have thrown out Lowell (scored a hit) even if he had bobbled the ball. ARod has a gun and Lowell runs like a snail. ARod also would have made the play on Coco (also scored a hit). If he handles that ball cleanly, he gets Coco. My theory is that Boot-licker Joe doesn't want to disturb the sensibilities of the the delicate prima dona, Jeter. Give me strong arguments for this defensive alignment to disabuse me of this notion.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

I have a question for Yankee fans. Why in Jeter's absence is Cairo playing SS? There were two plays last night that ARod would have made. ARod would have thrown out Lowell (scored a hit) even if he had bobbled the ball. ARod has a gun and Lowell runs like a snail. ARod also would have made the play on Coco (also scored a hit). If he handles that ball cleanly, he gets Coco. My theory is that Boot-licker Joe doesn't want to disturb the sensibilities of the the delicate prima dona, Jeter. Give me strong arguments for this defensive alignment to disabuse me of this notion.

 

perhaps Joe felt A-Rods gun of an arm would be better served at 3rd? 3rd to first is a tougher throw, and I'd rather have ARod there than Cairo making that toss. Honestly though I think Joe was just trying to shake up the lineup as little as possible. Even though Cairo can play 3rd, he gets most of his starts at 2nd and short. He may feel better about playing short than 3rd, and at this point ARod probably feels better at 3rd than short. Also, ARod hasnt played short in 2 years now, there's no guarantee that he would be sharp there.

[rician blast]

perhaps Joe felt A-Rods gun of an arm would be better served at 3rd? 3rd to first is a tougher throw, and I'd rather have ARod there than Cairo making that toss. Honestly though I think Joe was just trying to shake up the lineup as little as possible. Even though Cairo can play 3rd, he gets most of his starts at 2nd and short. He may feel better about playing short than 3rd, and at this point ARod probably feels better at 3rd than short. Also, ARod hasnt played short in 2 years now, there's no guarantee that he would be sharp there.

 

 

I honestly can't believe there's even a discussion as to why ARod stayed at 3rd.

 

ARod is the Yankees 3rd baseman. The SS went down. You don't move the 3rd baseman from HIS spot and have another guy come in to play the 3rd baseman's spot.

 

Why alter the entire left side of the infield when ONE man went down?

 

It has nothing to do with Cairos arm...the SS throw is just as tough as the throw from 3rd. Even with ARod's "gun of an arm" (which he uses to gun balls into right field on DP attempts), that was not a factor in the decision.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

I honestly can't believe there's even a discussion as to why ARod stayed at 3rd.

 

ARod is the Yankees 3rd baseman. The SS went down. You don't move the 3rd baseman from HIS spot and have another guy come in to play the 3rd baseman's spot.

 

Why alter the entire left side of the infield when ONE man went down?

 

It has nothing to do with Cairos arm...the SS throw is just as tough as the throw from 3rd. Even with ARod's "gun of an arm" (which he uses to gun balls into right field on DP attempts), that was not a factor in the decision.

 

thanks, thats pretty much what I was trying to say...why move more people out of position than you have to?

[a700hitter]

So, far these answers are completely unconvincing and frankly they are BS. Why move more people out of position? ARod has played thousands of games at SS in his lifetime. He is more out of position at 3B than SS. Longer throw at 3B? Even the Yankee fans aren't buying that. This is some weak s*** you are throwing at me.

[a700hitter]

Don't bother. Let him enjoy his weird obsession with bashing Jeter.

Still, no coherent, logical explanation.:thumbdown My criticism in this case is not of the prima dona, but of the manager. This would be like having Marino and Montana on the same team, but putting the TE in to QB when the starter went down. It just makes no sense. I love it. I hope ARod never plays another game at SS. I enjoy watching him plkay out of position at 3B while Cairo plays SS.

[Optimist]

I'm trying not to get too deep, but baseball seems to be one big cycle. I mean, last year an overmatched Melky Cabrera comes up and misplays a Red Sox hit into a HR, and then last night he makes an outstanding play and steals a HR from Boston. Circle of life?

[a700hitter]

I'm trying not to get too deep, but baseball seems to be one big cycle. I mean, last year an overmatched Melky Cabrera comes up and misplays a Red Sox hit into a HR, and then last night he makes an outstanding play and steals a HR from Boston. Circle of life?

Have you been taking some herbal supplements?

[Mr Crunchy]

I'm trying not to get too deep, but baseball seems to be one big cycle. I mean, last year an overmatched Melky Cabrera comes up and misplays a Red Sox hit into a HR, and then last night he makes an outstanding play and steals a HR from Boston. Circle of life?

 

 

based on this i see kevin brown coming back to pitch in october

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I remember when I got into an argument on Jim Callis and his hate for the Yankees with a couple of you guys. Here is an intresting article:

 

Despite youth movement, critic remains down on farm

 

 

 

 

 

The Yankee farm system has had an approval rating in recent years to which perhaps only Barry Bonds can relate. For that matter, "The Da Vinci Code" is a critics' delight compared to reviews of Yankee prospects from within the baseball industry.

But surely such a perception is changing now that Melky Cabrera has become a Stadium darling and Andy Phillips is pounding home runs, a year after Robinson Cano and Chien-Ming Wang emerged from the minors and enjoyed instant success.

 

Well, no. At least not to Jim Callis, executive editor of Baseball America, the publication widely acknowledged as the bible of all things minor league.

 

Callis is not a popular man among Yankee fans, many of whom are convinced Baseball America's organizational rankings are fueled by an anti-Yankee bias. "I get more E-mails from Yankee fans than anybody," Callis said yesterday. "If I had a dollar for every Yankee fan who has told me I must hate the Yankees, I could retire."

 

Callis, the point man for the rankings that have listed the Yankees as 17th, 24th, 27th, and 17th among baseball's 30franchises the last four years, insists he has no feeling one way or another about George Steinbrenner's ballclub. He also notes the rankings are far from just his opinion, but what amounts to a consensus of opinions gathered from scouts, scouting directors, farm directors, minor-league managers, and so on.

 

Still, Callis is not shy about voicing his own opinion. He's not sold that a few big moments from Cabrera and Phillips, or the continued development of Cano and Wang, have proven that the Yankees' farm system was underrated.

 

On Cabrera: "He's filled in nicely for them, but on a good team he's more of a fourth outfielder. I don't think he's a good center fielder, and I don't think he'll hit with enough power as a corner outfielder. If he's an everyday player for the Yankees in three or four years, I'll be stunned."

 

On Phillips: "He was a good college player. There are a lot of guys like that in Triple-A. He hit his way up the system, but he's 29. Is he a regular? No."

 

On Cano: "Yankee fans think I hate Cano. All I ever said about him is that he's not a second baseman long-term because he's got a big lower body. I don't think he's better than we thought he'd be. He's just doing it sooner than we thought. But I think in three or four years, Cano will be in left field for the Yankees."

 

On Chien-Ming Wang: "Usually guys who don't strike out a lot of hitters tend to struggle. He's done a little better than I thought. I thought he was a prospect, but he's got some moxie. I think he could be a solid middle-of-the-rotation guy."

 

On Eric Duncan, the Triple-A first baseman, regarded as perhaps the Yankees' best positional prospect: "If Eric Duncan was a Minnesota Twin, I don't think he'd get the hype he's gotten."

 

Right or wrong, it's not hard to see why Callis gets all those E-mails from Yankee fans, huh? On the other hand, Callis says he has never heard from a Yankee executive protesting the rankings or evaluation of the Yankee farm system.

 

Indeed, Yankee people for years have acknowledged, at least privately, the failings of their system, and wondered how Steinbrenner allowed such poor performance in the draft to go without consequence.

 

Callis says Brandon Claussen, the lefthander traded for Aaron Boone three years ago, is the best player the Yankees signed out of the draft between 1997 and 2003. Surely that's why Steinbrenner finally replaced Lin Garrett as scouting director with Damon Oppenheimer two years ago. Callis believes the Yankee drafts have improved since Oppenheimer took over and made a conscious effort to draft younger, more athletic players. For years, based on conversations he had with executives from several teams, Callis believes the Yankees drafted minor-league ready players with relatively low ceilings because Steinbrenner demanded that winning was the priority for even low-level teams in Tampa and Staten Island. "For years the Yankees took a shortsighted approach," Callis says. "Damon is trying to take the longer view."

 

With that in mind, Callis says the Yankees' system has improved significantly at the lower level. However, Callis says the Yankees deserve their farm-system ranking of only 17th this year because the upper levels have precious little major-league talent.

 

"They really don't have a lot at Double- or Triple-A," said Callis. "They needed a pitcher and they brought Scott Erickson up."

 

Ouch. Callis knows this will stir up more E-mails, but he points out that as recently as 2002, the Yankees' system ranked fifth. And he believes they are on the rise again.

 

He's just not budging on any notion that Baseball America underrated the system that seems to be producing nightly heroics for the Yankees these days. Maybe he needs to see another replay of Melky's catch the other night.

 

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/story/424767p-358338c.html

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Some bad news...Sheff will undergo surgery and will be out untill September. Matsui might actually be back before him.

[RedRuffing15]

Damn, never even thought it was that bad.

 

Well, Bernies gunna get a lot more than he expected when he resigned!

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Damn, never even thought it was that bad.

 

Well, Bernies gunna get a lot more than he expected when he resigned!

For now yeah but I expect them to trade for an OF sooner or later.

[Optimist]

Yeah, I expect a trade too.

 

I imagine Bernie will remain the 4th outfielder and they'll have Melky continue to be an everyday player.

[a700hitter]

Who is playing SS tonight with Jeter out again?

[schillingouttheks]

If it isn't A-Rod, I'll laugh.

 

I liked your comparison last night, 700. Made perfect sense. I was wondering myself why A-Rod, arguably a better SS than Jeter, wasn't at that position last night.

 

Miguel Cairo at SS over A-Rod? Give me a break.

[Optimist]

I don't know why the Yankees playing their third baseman at third base is such a big issue with you people. I mean, I know there's always a reason to bash the Yankees (on this forum, at least) but I'm not really seeing the point of this.

 

I mean, sure you can point out he's a better short stop than Cairo but the fact is, he's also a better third baseman than Cairo. Either way, we're weakening one position to strengthen the other. So what's the point of taking A Rod out of his everyday position and putting him back in one, for a few or more games, with habits and requirements that he had to lose to transition to 3B?

[schillingouttheks]

It's ridiculous. No one on that team, when Jeter is injured, knows how to play SS better than A-Rod at the moment. Would you argue that? Cairo would be more of a fit at a corner position.

 

The point is, is that it makes more sense for A-Rod to play at SS with things the way they are now. I don't blame them for playing their third baseman at third, I'm just saying that it would be better for them to have A-Rod play SS in Jeter's absence, considering he's probably the best SS on the team even if Jeter IS healthy.

[schillingouttheks]

I mean, sure you can point out he's a better short stop than Cairo but the fact is, he's also a better third baseman than Cairo. Either way, we're weakening one position to strengthen the other. So what's the point of taking A Rod out of his everyday position and putting him back in one, for a few or more games, with habits and requirements that he had to lose to transition to 3B?

Sorry, don't think I caught this editted piece in time.

 

Anyway, more balls are hit to SS than right down the line at 3B. That ball that Cairo bobbled the other night could have potentially been made into a great play if A-Rod was there.

 

Besides, A-Rod played SS for much longer than he's played 3B. It's not like it's suddenly going to hurt to have A-Rod play SS until Jeter is back.

 

Cairo doesn't have as much ground to cover at third. Bunt coverages sure, but third is a position that you could replace much easier than you could at SS.