Soccer!

[Mr Crunchy]

in all honesty i watched the world cup this summer

i like it

you can bet on it and if you can bet on it i will

 

the brits were a chalker as were brazil germany france and italy

beckham was their captain

portugal beat them??

if a portugese kid grows over 5'5 his mother gets the s*** pounded out of her as its suspected she had an affair

how do you lose to portugal??

 

anyways

i like world cup soccer

they should do it every year to take the edge off of baseball handicapping

[Cityofchampions33]

umm yea f*** US soccer, we had our chance when we had Pele, though it'd be sick if we did get as good as even the crappiest European leagues. For now, I'm fine watching the Gunners in the Prem across the pond.

[Mr Crunchy]

soccer will never fly here cause it sucks to watch on tv

i cant see americans spending 2 hours watching a 0-0 tie

is it true that the american soccer league has declining attendence in every single season of its existance??

 

soccer is about as old as hockey here in the us

its just not as popular

in the schools where they play football the only kids who play soccer are the immigrants or the pansies who arent tuff enuff for football

 

every 4 years its ok as long as its only competetion on tv is baseball

italian americans root for italy

germans for germany etc

everyone roots against france including the french canadiens

[ANiMAL]

soccer will never fly here cause it sucks to watch on tv

i cant see americans spending 2 hours watching a 0-0 tie

is it true that the american soccer league has declining attendence in every single season of its existance??

 

soccer is about as old as hockey here in the us

its just not as popular

in the schools where they play football the only kids who play soccer are the immigrants or the pansies who arent tuff enuff for football

 

every 4 years its ok as long as its only competetion on tv is baseball

italian americans root for italy

germans for germany etc

everyone roots against france including the french canadiens

 

 

 

 

only kids that play soccer are pansies cause they cant handle football????

 

im sorry, but you do know that they do wear a s*** load of pads in football, and i in soccer, you do get hit a lot, and you wouldnt know that cause youd prolly never played a competitive game. soccer is much more tougher than ppl think.

 

im a goalie, and i have more concusions that our schools entire football team combined

[rician blast]

im a goalie' date=' and i have more concusions that our schools entire football team combined[/quote']

 

we can tell. It's concussions.

just kidding, bro.

 

I ran into a guy who played fullback on the HS football in our town. He said "soccer is for kids who can't make the football team." I reminded him that he got his a$$ kicked by a midfielder on the soccer team when he was a Junior.

 

In my town many of the best athletes didn't play football for a number of reasons including the head coach was an a-hole, the team absolutely sukked yr in and yr out, their parents wouldn't let them play, the seniors used to flush toilets with freshman and soph. kids heads in it, before the coach came out to practice they'd pick an underclassman each practice and tape up his helmet, stick him in the middle of the field and drill him from all sides until the coach came into sight...just for fun (my buddy suffered a concussion and broken collarbone during this ritual).

 

Basically a lot of kids on the football team were total dikheads and between them and the coach they helped keep our soccer and cross country teams stocked with very good athletes.

[Cityofchampions33]

US football, while it is a lot tougher, is nothing like football football. No regular substitutions, having to run your ass up n down the field for 90 minuets straight, and probably breaking your leg on a bad slide tackle.

[Mr Crunchy]

im a goalie, and i have more concusions that our schools entire football team combined

 

wow grover

thats why you should wear your helmet on the short blue bus that picks you up in the morning

[ANiMAL]

im a goalie, and i have more concusions that our schools entire football team combined

 

wow grover

thats why you should wear your helmet on the short blue bus that picks you up in the morning

 

what the hell is that supposed to mean. it just proves that football players have so much protection and in soccer our bodies fly at eachother with no give. i get concussions cause in 50/50 balls, i go straight for the ball and i get hit in the head cause im not afraid to get it. soccer actually takes talent. anyone can be good at football, all you need is a needle.

 

in my school, after the soccer season is over, we have a tradition to play full contact football with each other and we dont have any pads on - we hit hard, and we dont care. i know football is supposed to be tough, but now-a-days, w/ all of the protection, its not. get over it.

[schillingouttheks]

I play football...

 

I never understood the whole soccer/football rivalry thing. Pretty stupid. The difference is that the bigger kids play football, and the other kids play soccer. There's no talent or toughness differential. While it's a lot easier to get hurt in football considering the game is made to be violent, you have to be pretty aware of your surroundings in soccer as well.

 

Also, animal, not anyone can be good at football. That's just flat out a dumb statement. You have to have an admirable work ethic, and get your mechanics down. The small things are much, much harder than people would think. I'm a lineman, take it from me. People who say it's not hard to be a lineman are plain stupid. You have a different responsibility for EVERY play, and you don't always know what you're going to end up doing or blocking until the moment it happens. If your feet are an inch off of where they're supposed to be, anyone will run you over. So, no, not everyone can play football.

 

The real difference is that an offensive line weighs as much as the 11 kids from one team on a soccer field do. There are 2 linemen on my team that weigh 245, 1 that weighs 260, 1 that weighs 250, and I weigh 255, and none of us are fat and everyone's at least 6'1". Our line alone weighs 1255 pounds. I wonder if the 11 starters on the soccer team combine to weigh that much...

[Mr Crunchy]

the contact between football and soccer is like night and day

dont compare the 2 please

you look like a fool to those of us who played

[BudLight]

Replace soccer with rugby and your argument may be a bit closer. Soccer in no way compares in contact with football.

[Mr Crunchy]

ever see a guy get paralyzed in soccer??

how about a chop block by a 320lb lineman who can run 15 yards as fast as edwin f***ing moses??

incidental contact is part of soccer

theres no incidental contact in football

all contact is malicious and the intent is to injure or worse

 

take the world cup for example

the frenchman butts the italian guy and gets tossed from the game??

a friggin tap is what it was and the guy got tossed which is the rule

im ok with that,theyre european i understand

however

that very same instance happens every single down in every single game usually by all 11 men on the defense and 10 of the 11 on offense with incomparable malice intent and force

 

and you'd like us to think that the games are equel in physical contact??

just stop it

i get it

soccer is a lot of running,probably an hour a day before practice even begins

great

 

now compare that to the gladiator drills your football team goes thru for maybe 15 minutes a day....just go out there and watch it for 5 minutes and if your mind isnt changed then your football team f***ing blows

 

ask the kid playing scout offense in the center position how his neck feels after a day of full contact drills and a 275lb noseguard delivering a forearm to his temple after he catches his girlfriend blowing his buddy in the mens room before practice...

 

theres no comparing the 2

none

[ANiMAL]

yes, there is a lot of contact in football, no doubt, but to flat out say that soccer is for pansies is a terrible statement because soccer us at least equally as tough as football is. Until you at least play a real competitive soccer match, you cant say anything about the contact. and since you mentioned the world cup, there was a lot of violence in that. For example, an elbow being drilled into an unprotected head causing severe bleeding in the cranium. that occured in th US/Italy match.

 

Mr. Crunchy, dont be an arrogant ass, soccer is as tough as football, you dont have to admit it, but IMO it is foolish just to flat out say soccer is for pansies and not be able to refute the statement that there is tons of violence in soccer.

[BudLight]

yes, there is a lot of contact in football, no doubt, but to flat out say that soccer is for pansies is a terrible statement because soccer us at least equally as tough as football is. Until you at least play a real competitive soccer match, you cant say anything about the contact. and since you mentioned the world cup, there was a lot of violence in that. For example, an elbow being drilled into an unprotected head causing severe bleeding in the cranium. that occured in th US/Italy match.

 

Mr. Crunchy, dont be an arrogant ass, soccer is as tough as football, you dont have to admit it, but IMO it is foolish just to flat out say soccer is for pansies and not be able to refute the statement that there is tons of violence in soccer.

 

 

Two words for ya: Darryl Stingley

 

Tell him that soccer and football are equally tough.

[rician blast]

Football is a much more physically demanding sport with an inherently greater chance for serious injury.

 

This does not mean that "soccer is for pansies"...as one poster pointed out, the lines that seperate whpo plays what aren't toughness and talent alone, it includes preference, an individuals geneticly-determined body type, etc.

 

To flat out call all soccer players pansies is silly. Although they often do roll around on the ground like they've been shot then suddenly bounce up and they're ok, so do hockey players (especially Europeans) and hockey is no pu$$y sport.

 

However to say anyone can play football and try to equate the level of physical contact and violence is ridiculous.

[Mr Crunchy]

please stop

the only thing equel about football and soccer is the price of beer in the stands.

 

an elbow to the cranium occured??

my god

did the player get thrown out of the game(soccer)

or did he get a 2 year contract extension(football)

 

i admit theres an awful lot of running in soccer

sort of like cross country while dribbling a ball and screaming in portugese

 

want to see some competetive soccer??

they play it here

go to the prospect heights section of milford when the local portugese kids play the local ecuadorian kids with the winner playing the local brazilian team

there will be 5000 people there standing to watch

and not an english word spoken

 

and ya

there will be violence as well

but not on the field

 

i admire your commitment to soccer and i honestly think its a great game for kids but comparing the contact in that game to u.s football is apples and oranges

 

of course youve heard the term soccer mom being a soccer player

when youre 18 i'll tell you what that term really means.

 

you never hear the word football mom

[rician blast]

Ya know, I was just thinking about our H.S. soccer team and the kids on it when I was in HS.

 

The team was made up mostly of Italian kids who came from this one section of town called the Grove. They attended the same elementary school where the HS coach was a gym teacher. They played a lot of soccer in elementary school, thus being the most proficient come HS time.

 

Some of these kids were incredible athletes. Two kids who made all-league my Sr. year were also all-league basketball players. Another kid who was a couple years older than me was the starting CF on the baseball team before I played there...he was fast and had a gun for an arm. Some of these kids ran track...motha fukkas were fast as hell, I mean these kids could flat out fly. The team during these years was consistently a state title contender.

 

None of these kids, and I know many of them very well, would ever state that soccer was as tough to play as football. Sure they'd say they run a lot. But they'd never have the balls..or stupidity... to say the two sports are nearly the same in terms of physical toughness.

 

Enough already, ok?

[schillingouttheks]

the contact between football and soccer is like night and day

dont compare the 2 please

you look like a fool to those of us who played

 

Where did I say the contact is equal? No where. My point was that soccer can be a pretty demanding sport as well. Of course football is lightyears ahead in contact. I've had 3 concussions and a broken sternum.

[Mr Crunchy]

i dont believe i was refering to you schilling sir

 

as far as the sternum goes

my balls are so big i bruise my sternum getting out of bed in the morning

 

a lot of the baseball players would play soccer in the fall rather than risk blowing out a knee or get a shoulder injury playing football

i dont know many people who played football who havent ended up in the emergency ward at 1 time or another

of course if you play soccer in south america you may get shot for f***ing up

[schillingouttheks]

 

I thought you were talking to me because your post was right after mine. My bad.

[Mr Crunchy]

that happens a lot because i struggle with the quote button

[ANiMAL]

w/e mr. crunchy, unless you actually have played soccer, you are not worthy enough to say anything negative about it. I will admit there is more general contact in football, but as shillingouttheks said, it is pretty demanding sport - i would say it is equally as demanding.

[schillingouttheks]

w/e mr. crunchy' date=' unless you actually have played soccer, you are not worthy enough to say anything negative about it. I will admit there is more general contact in football, but as shillingouttheks said, it is pretty demanding sport - i would say it is equally as demanding.[/quote']

 

Unless you have played football, you don't know how to compare to it. I've played both. Football easily flies way above soccer in the contact department, and is a bit more demanding. Football practices are more tiring than the games. A season of football, collectively, is a hell of a lot more demanding than a season of soccer, collectively. During games, both sports are very demanding. Football a little more, though. Every play, especially as a lineman, I'm hitting someone and trying to drive a 275 pound fat f*** out of my way with everything I've got. I have no time to slow down during any play. If I walk for a second, I screw up the whole play single handedly. There are quite a few times when you can take it easy on the soccer field when the ball isn't near you at all. ESPECIALLY on defense.

 

Also, I've played both ways (meaning offense AND defense). I hated it. I loved playing it, but it was so goddamn hard and I was laying on my back in the locker room for 15 minutes after every game. There's only 1 position in soccer. There's absolutely no way that the demands of playing a soccer game come anywhere close to those of playing both ways during a football game.

[CrespoBlows]

USA friendly against Denmark at 4:50.

[ORS]

I can't believe this is even being discussed. Only someone who plays soccer and has an inferiority complex would make such a statement. In terms of physical training required and contact allowed, here's the tough list, IMO...

 

1. Aussie rules Football - those guys are batshit insane

2. American Football

3. Rugby

4. Hockey

5. Lacrosse

6. Soccer/Basketball - both tolerate about the same amount of contact (at least college basketball does).

[Gom]

I've played soccer, and I've played football. Neither one is a joke. Soccer is more demanding from a fitness standpoint. Football is more demanding from a contact standpoint.

 

Soccer injuries are no joke though. You are minimally shielded, running at top speed, and get your legs taken out from you. Football, you expecting to get hit and are shielded.

 

As a former defensive back who was definitely more coverage than hard hitting, I didn't get into too many trench wars. Trust me, I was more tired at the end of a soccer game, but I hurt more the day after a football game.

 

I've played basketball as well....and as usual ORS is clueless [what else is new]. There is no way basketball is as demanding as soccer. In soccer, you get three subs. Once you go out, you're out. There's no breather, no break, etc. That's it. That means you play non-stop, 45 minutes a side.

[ORS]

I've played soccer, and I've played football. Neither one is a joke. Soccer is more demanding from a fitness standpoint. Football is more demanding from a contact standpoint.

 

Soccer injuries are no joke though. You are minimally shielded, running at top speed, and get your legs taken out from you. Football, you expecting to get hit and are shielded.

 

As a former defensive back who was definitely more coverage than hard hitting, I didn't get into too many trench wars. Trust me, I was more tired at the end of a soccer game, but I hurt more the day after a football game.

 

I've played basketball as well....and as usual ORS is clueless [what else is new]. There is no way basketball is as demanding as soccer. In soccer, you get three subs. Once you go out, you're out. There's no breather, no break, etc. That's it. That means you play non-stop, 45 minutes a side.

I've played both. You can rest on the field in soccer, but you can't in B-Ball. The fitness levels are the same, and so is the contact.

 

I'm clueless? Start it again if you want, but you won't be able to keep up.

 

Oh, and it's not surprising to hear you were an all-cover/no-hit DB. You act like someone with little-man complex.

[Cityofchampions33]

I've played both. You can rest on the field in soccer' date=' but you can't in B-Ball. The fitness levels are the same, and so is the contact. [/quote']

 

No, it isn't. Basketball you can substitue in and out multiple times when you need a breather. Also there are breaks for timeouts, free-throws, or any otehr fould. Ins occer, everyone ahs to move up for positioning at one time or anotehr (unless your a keeper). Time is non-stop and when tehre is a foul, you just get the ball and kick it again to start up again.

[CrespoBlows]

Donovan doesn't look like he's learned anything from Germany.

[CrespoBlows]

 

Wow. 1-0, Denmark. I thought Bruce Arena got fired?