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[Jasonbay44]

I don't like Beal. He's undersized and lacks the athleticism to compensate for it, and there's nothing special about his game outside of scoring.

 

I'd like to see the Wizards trade #3 and a contract (maybe flip Ariza) for James Harden and #28. Harden's poor finals showing isn't really indicative of much, it was just a bad series. He's bigger than Beal, is a better playmaker, a better defender, and he's proven. OKC has to unload Harden or Ibaka at some point, since they're pricing themselves to the point where the Thunder won't be able to keep both. MKG and Ariza keeps them good in the short term and makes their perimeter defense pretty scary.

 

The Wizards really need a scorer, especially a SG (I don't really like Crawford) which is why I'd like Beal, I'd be fine with MKG also though.

 

Harden is a lot better and I'd definitely be for that trade, I just don't see it happening, I think OKC is gonna try and keep that squad together for at least 1 more season.

[Jasonbay44]

LeBron' date=' Wade, and Bosh are all due at the olympics, so I have my doubts that they can repeat next year, just because of the fatigue involved from getting basically a one month break from last fall to next June. Maybe if Riley works some magic and can talk Nash or Ray Allen into signing for the vet minimum and Marcus Camby for the MLE, they can pull it off, that would help their depth immensely.[/quote']

 

I could definitely see Nash in Miami, he hinted before he'd like to play there and he definitely wants a ring. It would be a damn near perfect fit for both sides.

[redsoxrules]

The Wizards really need a scorer, especially a SG (I don't really like Crawford) which is why I'd like Beal, I'd be fine with MKG also though.

 

Harden is a lot better and I'd definitely be for that trade, I just don't see it happening, I think OKC is gonna try and keep that squad together for at least 1 more season.

 

Westbrook is most likely getting at least 15 Mil so OKC's payroll will be getting up there and wont be able to keep Harden after next year. They might want to trade him to get something in return rather than just losing him next year.

[Divinity]

I could definitely see Nash in Miami' date=' he hinted before he'd like to play there and he definitely wants a ring. It would be a damn near perfect fit for both sides.[/quote']

 

I seriously doubt he would accept league vet minimum to go to Miami, if he leaves Phoenix I think Dallas is the most probable destination.

[redsoxrules]

I seriously doubt he would accept league vet minimum to go to Miami' date=' if he leaves Phoenix I think Dallas is the most probable destination.[/quote']

 

If he wants a ring , I bet he'll take the league minimum .

He's not winning anything in Dallas

[Divinity]

If he wants a ring , I bet he'll take the league minimum .

He's not winning anything in Dallas

 

You're right, after thinking it over and considering he's already made over 100 million during his career I guess if he wants a ring that badly he'll go with Miami.

[ellsburyforMVP]

You're right' date=' after thinking it over and considering he's already made over 100 million during his career I guess if he wants a ring that badly he'll go with Miami.[/quote']

 

Is that what the nba has come too? I'm not sure what the rules in the nba are, but atleast in baseball a player can't take a noticeable pay decrease to play with a certain team to keep them under the salary cap... And there's a little thing out there called pride? I can't imagine that juwan Howard will EVER gloat about winning a ring, sure he was a great player in his day, but he showed up, wore some warmup pants and had a ring handed to him... Not everyone wants s*** handed to them

[Bellhorn04]

IRT 'best players of all time', winning the Finals MVP isn't necessarily the best measure of that, of course, but basketball does seem to be a game where the best players dominate in the big moments. They've only been awarding Finals MVP since 1969 so obviously this list of winners is omitting Bill Russell and other greats.

 

Non-bigs

 

Michael Jordan 6

Magic Johnson 3

Larry Bird 2

Kobe Bryant 2

 

Bigs

 

Tim Duncan 3

Shaquille O'Neal 3

Kareem Abdul-Jabaar 2

Hakeem Olajuwon 2

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Draft is tonight, Houston's been dealing.

 

I really, really hope the Celtics aren't dumb enough to take Austin Rivers.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Draft is tonight, Houston's been dealing.

 

I really, really hope the Celtics aren't dumb enough to take Austin Rivers.

 

how come? honestly just wondering.... is it because he's somewhat of a "hothead" or just dot think he will turn into anything? no one can predict how he will turn out, but if anyone can calm him down and teach him the right way to play, i would say its his dad

 

edit: and i'm not saying we should or should'nt draft him, but if ainge does pull the trigger to try and get him, i gotta say it's the right call......i don't pretend to think i know more than danny ainge and the rest of guys they have in the "war room"

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

This has nothing to do with Austin's talent. He's good, but hardly a can't miss prospect. It's just not a good idea for a father to be coaching a son at this level. Too much potential for it to turn into a dicey situation, and it screams conflict of interest. The coach could be accused of favoritism, the player could be uncomfortable or just rest on his laurels, who knows what else. What happens if Austin gets traded? It's just messy. I doubt either Doc or Austin wants it either, especially Austin. He doesn't want to be coached by his daddy in the NBA.

[ellsburyforMVP]

This has nothing to do with Austin's talent. He's good' date=' but hardly a can't miss prospect. It's just not a good idea for a father to be coaching a son at this level. Too much potential for it to turn into a dicey situation, and it screams conflict of interest. The coach could be accused of favoritism, the player could be uncomfortable or just rest on his laurels, who knows what else. What happens if Austin gets traded? It's just messy. I doubt either Doc or Austin wants it either, especially Austin. He doesn't want to be coached by his daddy in the NBA.[/quote']

 

Idk...it happens all the time in high school and often in college, and i think doc , atleast, could keep it professional..... i personally dont think we need him, would rather have a talented big, but i'll deal with w/e they do........might bitch and moan for awhile, but come pre-season time i'll be over it

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Hornets take Anthony Davis

Bobcats take MKG (trade bait)

Wizards take Beal

 

Both of the Cavs top targets are gone. Barnes now?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Cleveland takes f***ing Dion Waiters fourth.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Cleveland takes f***ing Dion Waiters fourth.

 

My thoughts exactly .... I don't see how they passed on Robinson

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Drummond's going to fall to Detroit. Huge for them.

[Palodios]

Hornets crushed this draft.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Hornets crushed this draft.

 

Nice young nucleus... Rivers/Gordon/Davis

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

They should let Gordon walk. Paying him max money or anything close would be a mistake.

[ellsburyforMVP]

They should let Gordon walk. Paying him max money or anything close would be a mistake.

 

Don't know the details, but they already made him an offer thus making him a RFA

[ellsburyforMVP]

Wouldn't mind the c's drafting sullinger... Watched every gm for him in college, kid is a ball player

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Cavs had a chance coming into tonight to really set themselves up well for the future, and instead they completely bomb it. Waiters at 4 is blasphemous, and on top of it they trade 3 picks (24, 33, 34) for Tyler Zeller. Horrible.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Quincy Miller, Arnett Moultrie, Perry Jones, and Sullinger will all be on the board for the Celtics. I doubt Danny can f*** this up.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

If we do take Sullinger, it won't be with 21. They'll save him for 22.

[Laser Show]

We HAVE to take Sullinger with one of these picks, the kid is a beast and should've been a lottery pick.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

If we do take Sullinger' date=' it won't be with 21.[/b'] They'll save him for 22.

 

I lied.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Sullinger and Arnett Moultrie would be cool. Don't take Sullinger and Perry, too much risk between the two of them.

[ellsburyforMVP]

I'm happy with this pick.... If healthy, he'll be loved in Boston

[Laser Show]

I'm happy with this pick.... If healthy' date=' he'll be loved in Boston[/quote']

 

Agreed. I also think that regardless of who goes 22nd, this draft was a success for us.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Want me to spoil the suspense?