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[italstallianion]

I looked at the box score and it says Tim Duncan attempted a 3 pointer and that Bosh attempted 3 3 pointers in the first half. wtf?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Yeah, but I don't see why you're surprised. Every year poor 3 point shooters attempt a 3. Howard just made one not too long ago. Bosh has looked like a fool on both ends tonight.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Good news, the apartment complex washing machine just s*** the bed and waterlogged my clothes. Soon as I can think of a funny tirade regarding that I'll put it up. Maybe I'll send anthrax to Coinmach while I'm at it.

 

Lmao can't wait, popcorn is a must.

[italstallianion]

Yeah, but I don't see why you're surprised. Every year poor 3 point shooters attempt a 3. Howard just made one not too long ago. Bosh has looked like a fool on both ends tonight.

 

I'm surprised because Tim Duncan seems to be better than that. Bosh should stop shooting 3's regardless of whether it's an All Star game.

 

And it's 2013 and Kobe is still styling on LeBron.

[italstallianion]

Kobe's stuffing LeBron again.

 

 

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/italstallianion/8efb22697343ab999ca813f63d1bb8e0_zpsc914e651.gif

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Loved every bit of those blocks, and so did Skip Bayless. First take is a much watch tomorrow.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Celtics are getting Jordan Crawford apparently.

 

For Leandro Barbosa.

[Jasonbay44]

Crawford is a straight up chucker with no basketball IQ and is very streaky. But when he's on, he can score in bunches. If I was a Celtics fan I'd like the move, not much risk and there is a lot of potential in Crawford.

[italstallianion]

It looks like the Celtics gave up Barbosa's expiring contract and Jason Collins. I think it's a good deal, however I think they really could have capitalized if they were able to deal Pierce to Brooklyn (I think) and Kevin Garnett to the Clippers. That said the deals on the table for those two weren't "must do's" therefore I don't blame them at all for staying put.

 

I also wanted both deals to happen to increase the talent on teams not named "The Heat"

[seabeachfred]

I notice no one seems to having anything to say about what happened last night when my Lakers kicked the s*** out of the Celtics in LA. Well, turnabout is fair play they say, and wasn't just about two weeks ago your guys humiliated the Lakers in Boston? Well, they split their two game series this year which is probably best for both fandoms. We had to win this game, though, since we were paying tribute to the departed Jerry Buss who we feel is the greatest owner in sports history. It would have been totally disgraceful if the Purple and Gold got black and blue last night. Bad enough our season is in the outhouse as it is. Now I wonder when we will ever have a Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals again. Say what you will, three thousands miles apart or not, this is by far pro basketball's greatest rivalry.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

No one's saying anything about it because it doesn't matter. The Celtics are old and paper-thin. The Lakers are dysfunctional, old, and paper-thin. Neither team has any shot at accomplishing anything so bantering between the two is stupid.

[Palodios]

No one's saying anything about it because it doesn't matter. The Celtics are old and paper-thin. The Lakers are dysfunctional, old, and paper-thin. Neither team has any shot at accomplishing anything so bantering between the two is stupid.

 

The East is incredibly thin right now. We seem to be see the same old story in the playoffs for the Celtics... they go deep on veteran experience, but end up being steamrolled by one of the teams that goes to the Finals.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

A 35 year old Pierce and a 37 year old Garnett plus scraps won't accomplish a whole lot. Miami has the east on lockdown anyway, the minute the Celtics meet them they're doomed.

[Palodios]

A 35 year old Pierce and a 37 year old Garnett plus scraps won't accomplish a whole lot. Miami has the east on lockdown anyway, the minute the Celtics meet them they're doomed.

 

AKA, steamrolled by the team who goes to the finals.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Not much to get excited about, but that's just me.

[seabeachfred]

No one's saying anything about it because it doesn't matter. The Celtics are old and paper-thin. The Lakers are dysfunctional, old, and paper-thin. Neither team has any shot at accomplishing anything so bantering between the two is stupid.

 

When you say the LA Lakers are dysfunctional, old and paper-thin, you have the perfect reason for my elation with our win last night over your Celtics. Any victory we get against a better team is cause for celebration this season, and right now at least your team has a winning record. We don't as you well know.

 

Still, knowing how we were once 0-7 against the Celtics in NBA Finals until we finally won one in 1985, anytime we beat that team is cause for elation, and you have to admit that when those two team play they seem to rise above their mediocre play this season. I only hope I will be able to see a few more Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals before it is my time to go.

[Jasonbay44]

John Wall with two clutch jumpers late in the 4th to seal the win? Holy s***, I think he might finally be developing that jumper.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

f*** the Wizards man. I knew after the 3rd we were going to lose.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I only hope I will be able to see a few more Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals before it is my time to go.

I wouldn't hold your breath, granted it only takes one stroke of dumb luck to change everything.

 

The Lakers don't have to do much to hold up their end of the deal. They're a double whammy; they're an attractive team for players of all types because they're constant contenders, they've won 10 titles since 1980 and they've been in the finals essentially every other year, and their home city is probably the most desirable one in the country. Not too long after Kobe's finished they'll draft another Kobe or Magic and be right back at it. Success will come to them, unless Jim Buss completely shits the bed.

 

The Celtics on the other hand are basically back in 1993 now. Garnett and Pierce are old. Rondo's talented but he plays up and down to his competition and doesn't make his teammates better, and now that he ripped his ACL his trade value is gone. We don't have any future franchise players on the roster, nor do we have any means of getting one outside of the draft. Boston isn't a destination on the NBA map, it's cold, it's in the shadow of New York, and it still has the racist tag. When Red built the Russell dynasty, he was well ahead of his time in a league filled with boneheads. When that was over he still had Havlicek (franchise caliber player), and was able to draft Cowens to go with him, and got two titles out of that in the 70s. In the late 70s when the Celtics were tubgirling, Red made an enormous gamble by drafting Bird's rights while he was still in college. Once the Bird era was over, the Celtics stalled because the rest of the league had finally caught up. Everyone else was as smart as the Celtics, if not smarter (due to Red taking a back seat), and all the loopholes were closed.

 

We could get back on top by throwing away next season for a strong draft class, but the owners won't have that because odds are they're getting ready to sell the team. It's hard to sell a basement dweller when they haven't had prolonged success since 1990 and don't play in NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, or Miami. So we'll be riding Pierce and Garnett until they expire, Rondo will 'lead' the team to a bunch of 29 win seasons, and barring a miracle it'll probably be at least a decade before we're relevant again.

[seabeachfred]

I wouldn't hold your breath, granted it only takes one stroke of dumb luck to change everything.

 

The Lakers don't have to do much to hold up their end of the deal. They're a double whammy; they're an attractive team for players of all types because they're constant contenders, they've won 10 titles since 1980 and they've been in the finals essentially every other year, and their home city is probably the most desirable one in the country. Not too long after Kobe's finished they'll draft another Kobe or Magic and be right back at it. Success will come to them, unless Jim Buss completely shits the bed.

 

The Celtics on the other hand are basically back in 1993 now. Garnett and Pierce are old. Rondo's talented but he plays up and down to his competition and doesn't make his teammates better, and now that he ripped his ACL his trade value is gone. We don't have any future franchise players on the roster, nor do we have any means of getting one outside of the draft. Boston isn't a destination on the NBA map, it's cold, it's in the shadow of New York, and it still has the racist tag. When Red built the Russell dynasty, he was well ahead of his time in a league filled with boneheads. When that was over he still had Havlicek (franchise caliber player), and was able to draft Cowens to go with him, and got two titles out of that in the 70s. In the late 70s when the Celtics were tubgirling, Red made an enormous gamble by drafting Bird's rights while he was still in college. Once the Bird era was over, the Celtics stalled because the rest of the league had finally caught up. Everyone else was as smart as the Celtics, if not smarter (due to Red taking a back seat), and all the loopholes were closed.

 

We could get back on top by throwing away next season for a strong draft class, but the owners won't have that because odds are they're getting ready to sell the team. It's hard to sell a basement dweller when they haven't had prolonged success since 1990 and don't play in NY, LA, Chicago, Dallas, or Miami. So we'll be riding Pierce and Garnett until they expire, Rondo will 'lead' the team to a bunch of 29 win seasons, and barring a miracle it'll probably be at least a decade before we're relevant again.

 

Jacoby, seems I have more confidence your Celtics than you do. They always seem to come back. It may take a few more years but they'll be back. One or two solid players and they revive. Besides, the rest of the teams in the EC, save for Miami and maybe one other, always seem to fall on their faces. I can see a Lakers-Celtics NBA Finals in about five or six years. Hopefully my Lakers will somehow get off their snide and start playing well again.

[Jasonbay44]

f*** the Wizards man. I knew after the 3rd we were going to lose.

 

Don't be ashamed, of the Wizards 17 wins, almost all of them were against teams over 500, including another one tonight.

[Jasonbay44]

Lebron just dropped 40/16/8 in a double overtime win.. Holy s***.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Why is that impressive? He played against the sorry ass Kings and nearly lost.

[Jasonbay44]

Why is that impressive? He played against the sorry ass Kings and nearly lost.

True. Every night a player is putting up 40 and 16 against the Kings.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Well the superstars capable of doing it, don't go 2 OT in order to make it happen. What was LeBron's stat sheet like at the end of regulation?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

15 points and 4 assist in OT.

 

He would have finished with 25 points and 12 assist had the game ended in regulation. I'm not surprised by the end result because he earned the points with extra time. His 2OT performance was impressive no doubt, but don't see the oohs and ahhs of him dropping 40 and 16 on a scrub ass team in not one, but two overtimes.

[Jasonbay44]

Well the superstars capable of doing it, don't go 2 OT in order to make it happen. What was LeBron's stat sheet like at the end of regulation?

In the history of the NBA, there has only been 6 other times where a player has had 40+ points and 15+ assists, this includes games against s*** teams, 2+ overtime games and playoffs and its only been done twice since 1994. The last time it was done, was in 2010, by of course, Lebron.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=ast&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

 

 

Even with two overtimes, Lebron "only" played 48 minutes and he took over the 2nd overtime, a part of the game where most players are fatigued and would be slowing down, he seemed to actually get stronger. The numbers he put up are impressive, it doesn't matter who he was playing against and how many overtimes there was, 40 point, 15+ assist games don't happen very often.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

The stats don't suck and I gave him credit for his 2 OT performance. I just don't find it impressive because he needed more time to get there. Even if he did it against the bobcats, I would have been impressed, only if he did it in regulation.

 

Btw: You say only 48 minutes but he averages 38 a game.

[Jasonbay44]

Numerous superstars have played in 2+ overtime games in their careers and have never put up a 40/15 game, the only active player with a 40/15 game is Lebron. those type of numbers don't happen, regardless of amount of overtimes or team they are going up against. I know overtimes can inflate stats (Paul Pierce had like a 20/14/14 game in triple OT a few weeks ago), but these number are still impressive and incredibly rare.

[italstallianion]

I think you're both right.

 

The numbers are impressive.

 

The numbers are slightly discounted because of the fact the game went to two overtimes.

 

Settled?