New York New York!

[Sizzlin22]

Why is it called "World Series" if there's only one country in it? There are "international" players in MLB? Still doesn't make much sense though. In fact, when it was Yankees-Mets - that's one CITY...ok yeah, just wondered about that? :dunno:

 

Over-analyze, much, yes.

I think they're kind of asuming that these are the best teams in the world, though I'm sure there has to be some Japaneese (sp?) team that is better than the D-Rays.

[YankeeDoodle]

Hmm, arrogant Americans, I suppose that's to be expected.

 

Japanese, lose the extra 'e', dear. LOL!

 

EDIT: *chuckles* Okay, we get it. We suck.

 

The article veers so off-topic into Yank-o-nomics, or something like that - I can't follow this spiel.

 

But it ends with:

 

So to everyone out there- I’m sick of it. If you don’t like the Yankees, I want to hear an argument that actually makes sense. Otherwise, stop talking just to hear the sound of your own voice. The Yankees organization stands for a lot of good things, and they give a lot back to baseball. Deal with it.

Bwahaha... Giving CHB a run for his money for absolute crap!

[BronxBomber61]

No, jackass, can you not read what he's saying? Who cares what you've done in the past? We're World Champions NOW and that would be all that matters.

 

That’s all that matters? So everything before 2004 is meaningless. Are you really that shallow? I guess then if the Yanks win it all this year what happened in 2004 should never bother them again. Come on, wake up.

[26 to 6]

That’s all that matters? So everything before 2004 is meaningless. Are you really that shallow? I guess then if the Yanks win it all this year what happened in 2004 should never bother them again. Come on, wake up.

its just ignorance man, the only reason they say that is because they have nothing to celebrate prior to last year with the exception of the 5 championships back in the early 1900's. They dont have anything to celebrate so they act as if there is no reason for anyone else to celebrate the past. if they dont win it this year theyll still be talking about how they won it last year...which is in the past, and according to Tex and Annie, the past doesnt count....so im going to say this right now, come November, if the Sox arent the 2005 World Champs, I dont want to hear another thing about their 2004 victory because it would be in the past and they wouldnt be the current/defending champions anymore

[See Red]

There's a huge difference between honoring your past and living in it -- once Yankees fans quit trying to throw their successful past into every single conversation, maybe you'll understand that. Is it a coincidence that you're named 26-6? Or would that be you somehow thinking that the past is more important than the present? Regardless of how many you've won in the past -- we are the current World Champions until we're dethroned.

 

Now, tell me, what's more important? The past? Or the Present?

[Boogie]

has there ever been a defending world champ that wasnt the current champ? or do you still not understand?

I'll ask the question again, are you celebrating or are you trying to defend right now?

[26 to 6]

i wasnt saying that you shouldnt celebrate the past, i BELIEVE that the past needs to be recognized and celebrated, its the Sox fans that dont think that, so thats why i said that i dont want to hear anything about this championship if they dont win this year, and if i do then that makes the Sox fans who say the past doesnt count frauds. And I obviously believe the present is more important, but without the past there would be no present.

[See Red]

I'll ask the question again, are you celebrating or are you trying to defend right now?

 

Defending. But defending is to compete against a challenger, or, in this case, challengers, to defend a Championship -- meaning the Championship is ours -- meaning we're the Champions -- meaning there's absolutely no difference between being the Champions and the defending Champions.

[AgentAnni008]

its just ignorance man, the only reason they say that is because they have nothing to celebrate prior to last year with the exception of the 5 championships back in the early 1900's. They dont have anything to celebrate so they act as if there is no reason for anyone else to celebrate the past. if they dont win it this year theyll still be talking about how they won it last year...which is in the past, and according to Tex and Annie, the past doesnt count....so im going to say this right now, come November, if the Sox arent the 2005 World Champs, I dont want to hear another thing about their 2004 victory because it would be in the past and they wouldnt be the current/defending champions anymore

ill tell you what mr. 26-6, if the sox dont win it again this year you will not hear me say anything about how we are the greatest team in baseball in 2006 just because we won it 2 years ago. its most of you yankee fans that for some reason think the yankees are great because you won a world series 5 years ago. i on the other hand can say that my team is great not because we won it in 1918 but because we are the world champs NOW!

 

p.s. the only thing i will mention about the 2004 season if we dont win it will be how you guys choked a 3-0 lead in the ALCS.

[schillingouttheks]

Anni, I may not agree with you much, but I agree with you 100% here.

 

Yankee fans, most of them, (not to make generalizations ) tend to say/think that they are still the best team/organization in the world today. I'm sorry, but I tihnk the best one is the STL Cardinals, as of right now. They are flawless, and just because they haven't come off of a three-peat in the past decade, I find them to be the best TODAY.

 

Yes, the past should be recognized, that I find correct in 26-6, but it should not be brought into arguments about today's ordeals. Not to take anything from the Yankees, they have been a dominant force for YEARS, (26 championships IS quite impressive), but they just aren't what they used to be, as hard as that may come. Recently, this past year and this year, the Sox have shown that they are still dominant coming off of last year, and while the Yankees obviously were a great team last year, I do believe that the Sox showed why they were better last year. Now, you may disagree that the Sox were a better team, but that's a different discussion.

 

My point being, you can't justify the present with past arguments.

[BronxBomber61]

There's a huge difference between honoring your past and living in it -- once Yankees fans quit trying to throw their successful past into every single conversation, maybe you'll understand that. Is it a coincidence that you're named 26-6? Or would that be you somehow thinking that the past is more important than the present? Regardless of how many you've won in the past -- we are the current World Champions until we're dethroned.

 

Now, tell me, what's more important? The past? Or the Present?

 

My argument was that the past should be recognized but what is most important is who is winning now. I’m more concerned about losing 3 of 4 to the Angels; you should worry about your bullpen blowing a game to the Devil Rays. The Yankees are the most successful team in sports history but I don’t bring that up until I’m provoked. No fan takes more abuse then the Yankee fan. When we win it’s “the payroll”, when we lose it’s “how could you lose with that payroll”.

 

You wonder why we always use the Yankee history. I went the Sunday game at Camden Yards to see Red Sox vs. Orioles this month. The ballpark was about half RS fans. I couldn’t possibly count how many anti Yankee Tee-shirts I saw. The Yankees were playing Cleveland, they weren’t in Baltimore. You guys should wear anti Harry Frazee Tee-shirts, you can thank him more then anyone for what Yankee fans have to brag about.

[riverside sluggers]

Brown out again, Pavano pushed back

 

July 26, 2005

NEW YORK (AP) -- Kevin Brown was scratched from his scheduled start Thursday and Carl Pavano was pushed back as he comes back from a shoulder injury, leaving the New York Yankees uncertain about two turns in their rotation this week.

 

Brown met with a doctor in Colorado this week. After talking to the pitcher, who has chronic back pain, Yankees manager Joe Torre said Tuesday that Brown wouldn't be able to start against Minnesota. Torre did not go into details about Brown's condition, saying he wanted Yankees team physician Dr. Stuart Hershon to speak with Brown's doctor first.

 

Pavano will make a rehabilitation start Wednesday in the Gulf Coast League and throw 65-70 pitches, Torre said. New York originally hoped he would start Saturday against the Los Angeles Angels but decided to bring Pavano back more slowly.

 

Aaron Small appears likely to get one of the two open slots in the rotation this week. He made his first major league start since 1996 last Wednesday and beat Texas for his first major league win since 1998.

[schillingouttheks]

DAMN IT! When KB pitched it was almost an insured loss for the Yanks

[yankees4ever]

this whole arguement that you yankee fans have resorted to is comical. you guys cant win one for a few years and you have to say "we are better because we won 26 titles in the last 100 years". i guess the 49rs or the cowboys are the greatest because they USE TO BE great...thats a joke because they suck RIGHT NOW. just like you guys suck RIGHT NOW. and yes before you start, you suck when you blow a 3-0 lead in the alcs. the RED SOX are the WORLD CHAMPS RIGHT NOW!!! that is what matters RIGHT NOW.

 

Anni, you're right. All that matters is right now. The only World Championship that matters is the current one. However, as I expect from many Red Sox fans, you blow your whole point away with foolishness. The Yankees are a game behind the Sox, so if the Yanks suck then the Sox are sucking right along with them. The Yankees are no longer the team they once were, but trust me, this season the Red Sox aren't doing much better. Hope the Sox fans on this form plan to live a long, long time, because that's probably the only way you'll see another WS championship. The Sox are the champs, and they beat the greatest team in the history of sports to get that opportunity to win that championship, but 1 title doesn't mean very much in the grand scheme. The Yankees are no longer the best, and Sox fans better wake up and realize their chances of being the best again this year are fading fast. The American League East is a mess, although I admit it's a good race right now.

[yankees4ever]

ill tell you what mr. 26-6, if the sox dont win it again this year you will not hear me say anything about how we are the greatest team in baseball in 2006 just because we won it 2 years ago. its most of you yankee fans that for some reason think the yankees are great because you won a world series 5 years ago. i on the other hand can say that my team is great not because we won it in 1918 but because we are the world champs NOW!

 

p.s. the only thing i will mention about the 2004 season if we dont win it will be how you guys choked a 3-0 lead in the ALCS.

 

Sustained greatness, Anni. I can't speak for every Yankee fan,but that's what I believe alot of us are talking about. No doubt the Sox have had some great teams over the years, but the bottom line is championships. No way am I, anyway, trying to convince anyone the Yanks are still the greatest team in baseball. Just the greatest team in the history of sports, period.

[yankees4ever]

Anni, I may not agree with you much, but I agree with you 100% here.

 

Yankee fans, most of them, (not to make generalizations ) tend to say/think that they are still the best team/organization in the world today. I'm sorry, but I tihnk the best one is the STL Cardinals, as of right now. They are flawless, and just because they haven't come off of a three-peat in the past decade, I find them to be the best TODAY.

 

Yes, the past should be recognized, that I find correct in 26-6, but it should not be brought into arguments about today's ordeals. Not to take anything from the Yankees, they have been a dominant force for YEARS, (26 championships IS quite impressive), but they just aren't what they used to be, as hard as that may come. Recently, this past year and this year, the Sox have shown that they are still dominant coming off of last year, and while the Yankees obviously were a great team last year, I do believe that the Sox showed why they were better last year. Now, you may disagree that the Sox were a better team, but that's a different discussion.

 

My point being, you can't justify the present with past arguments.

 

As a Yankee fan, Schill, I can't really disagree with anything you say. Although I think the point about the Sox being dominant this year is a bit untrue. They're not dominating anybody. The White Sox, those fools are dominating everone. The American league East is a mess right now, but the division is close. Which doesn't say much for the Yanks, Sox or Orioles. As far as the Sox being better, I speak now as a baseball fan and not as a member of the greatest rivalry in sports: The Sox, in my opinion, were not a better team last year. But they played with so much more heart than the Yankees apparently could muster in the ALCS, they showed why they deserved to be champions.

[YankeeDoodle]

schillingouttheks: What's insured is that ridiculous check he's getting. BLAH!

 

AHHHHH! Not to totally overreact; Pavano's rehab start is only pushed back until tomorrow, and BBB shouldn't have come off the DL in the first place. And now RJ might have a slight "tweak", but he's still going. So that makes Mussina the only guy who feels fine, at least by all outward appearances.

 

Small, be BIG for us. As huge as Wang was in the first-half (I'm in no mood to joke).

 

So, SP stands at (and not in order that they go in):

Moose

RJ

Leiter

Small

?????

 

I miss you, Andy. I really do. Please don't let us get stricken the pitching plague ANYMORE!

[26 to 6]

ill tell you what mr. 26-6, if the sox dont win it again this year you will not hear me say anything about how we are the greatest team in baseball in 2006 just because we won it 2 years ago. its most of you yankee fans that for some reason think the yankees are great because you won a world series 5 years ago. i on the other hand can say that my team is great not because we won it in 1918 but because we are the world champs NOW!

 

p.s. the only thing i will mention about the 2004 season if we dont win it will be how you guys choked a 3-0 lead in the ALCS.

why would you mention the choke...its in the past...according to all of you Sox fans, the past doesnt count.

[AgentAnni008]

why would you mention the choke...its in the past...according to all of you Sox fans, the past doesnt count.

well to all of us sox fans sure but i will mention the choke for you yankee fans and we all know you guys live in the past.

[Sox fan in Tex]

You're right 26-6, let's not go with "the past" which I guess to you can include this past season. Let's talk about this year: Once again, we are out in front of you and have been so for a majority of the year. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about your team picking up Nomo in order to help your rotation. Let's talk about you losing 3 of 4 at Anaheim. Let's talk about how the Royals can arguably be better than you. Let's talk about Tampa Bay being the definition of your "DADDY."

 

If you want to not talk about the past, there is this year summed up for you right there. Pick a topic.

[riverside sluggers]

They're not dominating anybody

 

ok yea the sox havent dominated anyone, 8-4 against Tampa Bay thus far, you guys would be 7-3 against the D-Rays. sweep of the Reds, Phillies, Tampa, Oakland, Cleveland...Overall 3 out of 4 against Detroit...4 out of 6 against Texas, Oakland, Cleveland...2 out of 3 against Atlanta, Angels, Pittsburgh

 

The Sox, in my opinion, were not a better team last year.

 

Riiight, so a 98-64 record is sub-par huh? haha along with the biggest choke in baseball history, sweep of the mighty cardinals in world series, nah they werent the better team at all

[soxie thefangirl]

Those are just dumb comments. Everyone knows the Sox are a dominant team.

[riverside sluggers]

well yankee fans are one-sided most of the time, i just love giving them the cold hard facts

[soxie thefangirl]

Yeah no kidding.

[MC Hammer]

ok yea the sox havent dominated anyone, 8-4 against Tampa Bay thus far, you guys would be 7-3 against the D-Rays. sweep of the Reds, Phillies, Tampa, Oakland, Cleveland...Overall 3 out of 4 against Detroit...4 out of 6 against Texas, Oakland, Cleveland...2 out of 3 against Atlanta, Angels, Pittsburgh

 

 

 

Riiight, so a 98-64 record is sub-par huh? haha along with the biggest choke in baseball history, sweep of the mighty cardinals in world series, nah they werent the better team at all

 

Don't forget about the sweep of the Angels in first round. It was basically a sweep, 3 losses, a sweep, and a sweep

[riverside sluggers]

thats correct, hmm who won with the walkoff homerun during the angels series?

[YankeeDoodle]

New millenium: 1-1. Doesn't matter in which the manner one loses; sweep or choke, some may be more memorable than others, but bottom line is a loss is a loss, a win is a win.

 

The Yankees have TWO wins, entire 2005 season, when trailing by the 8th. Clutch? Rally? Not to mention absolutely sucking when not scoring a gazillion runs (4? too much to ask?). At times when the SP has been solid...the bats get cold. Or the bullpen blows it.

 

The Angels have dominated the Yankees for awhile - this isn't anything new. The White Sox looked terrible against the A's in that series - still have a lot of ground kept. And glad we can give the fans in KC and TB something to smile about. Heh.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

From what the Yanks have grabbed, I'm not impressed. Unless, they pull off a block-buster deal, they're done.

[CrespoBlows]

From what the Yanks have grabbed, I'm not impressed. Unless, they pull off a block-buster deal, they're done.

 

They aren't done, because the Red Sox aren't that much better then the Yankees are. You are correct though, they need to get 2 SP's at least, with Kevin Brown being done, and Jaret Wright likely not contributing. They also need to adress the bullpen, and get a CF.

 

The Yankees have exactly two prospects worth mentioning, and those two prospects won't even get you a number 3 starter. Too many holes to fill, not enough to do it with.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

Exactly, they got crap to trade and they're grabbing the left-overs from a Boy Scout speggitti dinner.