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That was my first reaction too but…… assuming my trade package above: Rooker could probably play left field OK, and then you’re just where you were last year with the four outfielders, and without a really solid second base, you could move Rafaela to second base quite a bit, putting Duran in center, and let Masa DH a bit. Plus, injuries have been fast to hit this team. I think the A’s would make the move. It gets them younger, they have a they have an amazing young core, better defensively, give them a left-handed bat. And they are really not playing for the postseason this year but in the next couple of years.

Not mine…. And I’ll even put my max offer trades out there to be criticized. Unlike beta Breslow, I know you have to give something up to get really good players back. 1. K Marte for Abreu/ Duran +Bello +Harrison +Romero 2. N Hoerner for Bello + Crawford/ Harrison/ Romero 3. (New) B Rooker for Abreu + Bello/ Harrison/ Crawford/ Witherspoon 4. Shaw + ___ for Rafaela/ Abreu/ Duran 5. Sign Andujar have me depressed for a couple weeks. Then move on. 6. E Tovar for Abreu + Bennett + Harrison 7. Isaac Paredes + ____ for Abreu 8. Go into the season with this exact roster. i’ve never once looked at the BTV stuff you guys do. I always find it interesting, but when I throw out a trade, I shoot from the good ole hip.

I would be over the moon about Brent Rooker as our DH. He would fit so well into this lineup and into Fenway. Hits right hand pitching for power. Hits left hand pitching for average doesn’t strike out nearly as much. He makes us a much better team. Even if you have to give up W Abreu + young pitching to get him. Outfield: JD16, CR3, RA19, BR, MY Infield: still need a guy. But I think it moves you off of Isaac Paredes, and allows you to wait till May or June to figure out 2nd base. Give Campbell, another chance, see if Marcelo Meyer can hit left-handed pitching, make a decision as summer turns.

I did……. Rengifo can play 3rd too. Solid defensively… offensively very meh

Here is what I envision… No room for DHam RHP LHP J Duran CF J Duran DH T Story SS T Story SS R Anthony LF R Anthony LF W Contreras 1B W Contreras 1B W Abreu RF W Abreu RF M Yoshida DH R Gonzalez 2B C Rafaela 2B C Rafaela CF M Mayer 3B M Andujar 3B C Narvaez C C Narvaez C C Wong C/inf C Wong C/inf K Campbell ? K Campbell ? M Andujar 3B/LF M Mayer 3B/2B R Gonzalez 2B/3B M Yoshida OF

I think the play is Miguel Andujar. Guy rakes vs LHP, see where you are in May. Should be a lot of options at second base if Marcelo or Trevor are hurt by then. I can’t believe Beta Breslow didn’t sign or trade for anyone in the infield. If On December 1st, you had told me where we’d be today. I would have had an absolute temper tantrum come apart.

The no trade route: thoughts on Andujar+ Rengifo add? platoon Andujar and M Mayer at 3b platoon R Gonzalez and Rengifo at 2b I can’t believe this is where we are.

I agree, but you wanted to make the trade before he signed, now we’ve lost leverage that Suarez is an option for us. For example, if we call to check in with the Houston Astros today, they have more leverage than they did yesterday.

Donavan is a good baseball player, but his splits vs LHP are not good. 614 ops we could probably live with that, if it wasn’t for our 4 OF’s all hitting considerably worse vs left hand pitching as well. There are a lot of things to like about Donovan… He doesn’t strike out too much 13% SO, hits majority of balls up middle, his exit velocity is still climbing as well. And his hard hit % percentage is climbing. If we make this trade, and don’t give up any positional starters. I do like our depth. But in a pinch, like last year, let’s say both Abreu and Roman are out. Donovan plays pretty decent outfield, can play third base can play second base all at a very serviceable skill level. So I like his bat to ball, flexibility, defense, good teammate. The only thing I don’t like about him is the way he hits left-handed pitching. And not that it’s that bad, it’s just the way the team sets up. Nico is the guy….. I agree with you that we can’t guarantee that Craig would resign Hoerner. I just think it makes us the best baseball team. If we’re gonna give up Tolle in a package…. We better get an elite player back……. K Marte.

I’ve been the biggest defender of JD…. I’m officially ready to trade him for Nico Hoerner. Nico fits this freakin lineup like a glove.

As we look at the lineup vs RHP it’s not great but not horrific offense. 4 outfielders hit well vs RHP, Mayer hits much better, Contreras and Story are close to even splits. It’s an offense that can produce. vs LHP it’s dicey at best. LHP Avg OBP% OPS R Anthony .278 .337 .770 C Rafaela .220 .265 .679 W Abreu .230 .299 .678 J Duran .211 .260 .600 M Mayer .154 .185 .414 Roman hits lefties decently well, Ceddane has surprising reverse splits vs lefties , Jarren was awful last year, and Abreu is not great. That exacerbates the need for Inf vs LHP because Mayer is AWFUL So he is for sure platooning with Romy. We need someone who can rake vs LHP. Here are the options: LHP Avg OBP% OPS I Paredes .200 .324 .691 N Hoerner .369 .396 .935 M Shaw .250 .318 .808 B Donavan .230 .292 .614 K Marte .277 .375 .891 M Andujar .389 .409 .986 Honestly some of you guys might have more data than me, why Paredes was so bad versus left-hand pitching? If that is more than an anomaly, I don’t think he’s the answer, obviously Donovan is much worse vs LHP. No go there. Which leads me to this list: 1. K Marte 2. N. Hoerner Big gap 3. Matt Shaw another big gap 4. M. Andujar 5. N Arenado 6. K. Campbell

Since rarely this board stays on topic, and I didn’t know where to ask a question. I’ll just ask it here . I popped over to the Cubs message board, I wanted to see what their thoughts and feelings were on a trade. Consensus, they really love, Nico Hoerner. And hate their owner way worse than we do. HA Whilst on that website, I came across a hypothesis or theory about the Boston Red Sox that I haven’t read here. It might exist and I just missed it, so apologies if it’s already been written about ad nauseam. They implied that Craig Breslow has taken a big chance on the ABS system and that it might be part of the reason why we ended up with Suarez and Gray as opposed to any type of bat at all. Do you guys agree with this? 1. That this was actually part of his thought process. 2. That he consciously chose pitching, and guys who throw strikes over hitting? what do you think that means for our team offensively? We have an absolute ton of swing and miss in our lineup. And a few guys that are known for chasing. I know it’s not every pitch and only in a challenge situation so I’m wondering how much this will alter the 2026 Landscape.

If we don’t make any trades, and the Red Sox are unwilling to spend money. That Sonny gray trade looks really bad now, huh? We obviously don’t know what the future holds with injuries, etc., but it for sure limited what we could accomplish in terms of improving the lineup.

Here we go again, taking one little line creating an entire message about it… no, I do not personally know the efforts he made, I didn’t sit next to him, and follow him around all winter, nor have I quit my job and just stalked Raffy. That is what I was told via somebody from the front office adjacent of the Boston Red Sox. The Red Sox were disappointed in his effort. I totally get the language thing, growing up as a Mormon in Utah at the age of 19 you “volunteer” (with considerable pressure from your generalized other) to serve a mission, and they send you anywhere in the world they want. It’s supposed to be an act of faith…. They actually have a hymn entitled “I’ll go where you want me to go dear lord” I happened to be sent to a Spanish-speaking country, so I was forced to learn Spanish. At any given time there were 200 gringos in my mission, forcing our twisted Anglo-Saxon, traditional beliefs upon others. None of us chose to be where we were, so I saw various levels of competence and commitment to learning language. I get it the Vogue thing to say is “well everybody learns differently,” which is true, and I fully witnessed that. But this individual, I sat next to expressed that there was some level of frustration at Devers commitment to his body and I quote “learning English”. And let me get out in front of this. This is not me body shaming Devers. I don’t care…… I didn’t document what he ate on Friday nights, or if he got up and lifted weights on Saturday morning,…..just simply what was relayed to me in early August 2025.

Nope…… I actually got that from a FO member adjacent I met in SD last year… when RS played Padres. I sat next to him in game 1 of series. I’m kinda uniquely qualified to give insight on the “forced” to learn a 2nd language, my experience is effort is really important. If people know you’re trying, they give you grace… So effort to learn is what RS were looking for. Yes there are varying skill levels and successes with 2nd languages. You know how I feel about JH and Bres, I rarely side with them. Yet I understand if you sign a 10 yr 300m deal to be the face of franchise. It’s ok to expect effort. But if you look at Ohtani English progression it’s getting better and better. Sidebar on Ohtani front you don’t actually believe the interpreter had access to millions of Ohtani’s dollars without him knowing what was going on?

Wanted him to learn English, he wouldn’t. They wanted him to be face of RS, which means he needed to speak English. Wanted him to get in shape in offseason he wouldn’t. Boston actually sent tutors and trainers to DR in 2024-25 offseason and he avoided them until they gave up. Then had a temper tantrum about making the team better. Because it dislodged him at 3b. He was a poor teammate.

Ok but sign him and then work on getting under 3rd tax line. Otherwise we risk losing him, and then we will be stuck upgrading and salary dumping via trade.

I’m being facetious…. Cuz we just need to stop messing around to save a couple million and end up losing him too.

I’ll go the other way, use a supposition but not give Breslow the benefit of the doubt that you do almost every time. I wonder if Suarez like really wants to be in Boston. Why? The ballpark fits his swing perfectly, he gets to join a team that’s gonna be a winner, oh, and it’s the Boston Red Sox. Everybody wants to play for the Boston Red Sox. He’s willing to take a discount, except Beta Breslow is still is holding his feet to the fire on the no trade clause. And Suarez doesn’t want to give a discount only to be shipped off for relief pitching in July that Breslow thinks he can unlock. Like May or Hicks last year..

I do disagree about Bello hook in game 2, he was getting hit hard. Felt like it was teetering. Don’t disagree with this pitching staff being deep BEFORE adding Gray and Suarez…… but also Ranger Suarez postseason performances have been stuff of legend. I’m freaking excited for that contingency plan if we end up in wild card and you have to face Crochet/ Suarez on back to back nights. *IF ANY of Kutter/Tolle/ Oviedo/ Early take a leap forward….. this could be insane

Yup! He makes us better so yeah.

ok so since you can’t without a shadow of a doubt know who said no/ thought the other guy was bluffing you absolve him of most blame? moving on…., I’d say the Ranger vs Bregman signing comparison is incomplete, IF it was the last move of 2026 season then I’d say AB is more valuable to this team based on other holes in roster. IF we sign or trade for a serviceable OFFENSIVE 2nd/3rd baseman….. then I would agree with you Suarez > Bregman. I’m also not going to pretend to know what contract is going to be better in year 4 & 5. One thing I can say for certain I sure wish we could have handed Ranger the ball in game 2 vs Yankees last year.

At least you’re admitting his plan never ever turns out. The fact you think our current roster, and options are his Plan B is funny because I believe we are probably on plan F. And if you dissect the transactions desperation definitely sets in.

Moon, you sound like my mother-in-law making excuses for her son’s bad decisions. It’s always someone else’s fault—trauma from 30 years ago, friends who are doctors or finance bros influencing him to make bad decisions but it’s not his fault. At some point, if you’re Craig Breslow and you hold the job, you’re responsible for what you say and what you do. These ownership constraints, bad luck etc just don’t land anymore. Yes, we don’t know the exact conversations between John Henry and Breslow. But we do know what Breslow has said publicly. And I’d imagine that shiny Yale diploma on his wall taught him at least one basic lesson: don’t say things to the media unless you’re confident you can back them up. Or, at minimum, check with ownership before you do. So when he tells us “we’ll be big players at the trade deadline” and we end up with some curly red-haired guy who absolutely can’t pitch, that’s not bad luck. That’s a failure of expectation-setting. There is accountability there. <Strike 1> Then came the end-of-season comments, which—credit where it’s due—were actually spot on: We need a middle-of-the-order bat and a legitimate No. 2 starter. That messaging strongly suggested a plan: maybe keeping Bregman, maybe adding a Pete Alonso–type bat, and pairing that with a real top-end arm. Instead, he finds a “good deal” with the Cardinals that kind of fills those needs if you squint hard enough. And by “fills,” I mean only with a generous amount of imagination. <strike two.> Then we get to the Bregman fiasco—which has been discussed plenty—but there’s another angle that matters. It looks increasingly like Framber Valdez might have been available on a short, two-year type deal. The speed with which Breslow pivoted after the Bregman situation collapsed felt desperate, not calculated. And while Ranger Suárez is a great addition, Framber Valdez by most accounts is the better pitcher. It looks like he could have been had on a 2 yr deal…. I’ll add I like Suárez, and if we get to postseason he is virtually unhittable —which should be a blast to watch when it happens. But it looks like desperation to me. So now here we sit. Breslow still has options. He can: 1. Spend a little more money without mortgaging the future, bring in Suarez on a short one- or two-year deal. 2. Or make a trade that hurts a bit, but actually lands a real difference-maker at second or third base This team is not boxed in. This team has options. But based on what he himself has told the media, it’s hard not to conclude that his plans and negotiation tactics simply aren’t working. Making excuses for him at this point is asinine. Does John Henry kind of suck as an owner these days? Yes. Could Henry be placing real constraints on Breslow behind the scenes? Also yes. But Breslow is still the one going in front of microphones, telling fans what’s going to happen—and then repeatedly falling astronomically short. That part is not on ownership. That’s on competence, execution, and the ability to sell Fenway, which should be one of the easier jobs in baseball. Literally a tie goes to the Red Sox every time. please don’t take one sentence out of this entire admitted the way too long diatribe, and dissect it, take the opinion on the whole. Which is yes we do not have Breslow and JH phone conversations/text messages,but there is a pattern of incompetence that has grown at a really fast rate over the last 14 months.

I like the idea of Donovan but I don’t think St Louis wants Bello or Duran. (Just speculating where they are in the reboot.) I’d trade him for Harrison, Romero and Casas. But then I think you still need a power right handed bat. Suarez and Donavan would be best case scenario. With what’s available/ realistic.