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  1. Brother I have news for you, It’s all hypothetical: everything on here is hypothetical. whether it’s moves RS should have made, or ones they shouldn’t have made. Youre applying it while looking at Alex Bregman stats in Chicago and saying see “good glad we didn’t sign him.”Or looking at Adames metrics and saying “he won’t be a good signing.” All of this is applying the hypothetical that their stats would be the same in Boston as they are in Chicago or SF. And the reality is will never know. What we do know is this team came in with a clear message, that we were in a window to fight for a championship. Yet halfway through June RS are 12 games below .500. The only reality is this is the worst RS team in relation to expectations in my lifetime. You’re right that I think it gets murky on whether RS would have traded for WC40 if they had signed Alonso. But the argument could be made Alonso vs Duran is a more relevant argument at DH. Hindsight I certainly wish we traded Duran and signed Alonso.
  2. Doesn’t surprise me, I’m not sure in the splits where I could quantify this but I’d imagine the Padres win more games 4- 3 or 3-2 than the Red Sox. It seems like we lose a lot of close ones, and until it feels like the pressure is off we can’t hit, then trailing 4-0 going into the ninth inning we score 2 runs to lose 2-4 or if we win it’s 6-1 or more.
  3. They could have traded him for WAY more than we are gonna get at trade deadline for him. Maybe Harrison would be killing it here as well. All we actually know is this Sh** lineup isn’t working and many around here aren’t shocked.
  4. Or with Alonso and Contreras protecting them MAYBE they’d be batting .300 with 15 HR’s. We will never know.
  5. Look it up I was very VERY frustrated when Alonso signed with Orioles. Not for bench for 1st and DH.
  6. The reality is that Bregman/ Marte/ Alonso results would not be identical to their current results on different teams. And there is actually no way to delineate their #’s on different teams, as to what they would have done/what impact they would have made on younger hitters. IF they were in Boston Uniforms this year. All we can see is the reality of what THIS lineup has become, and the composition looks like an absolute nightmare. And MANY were worried about the lack of firepower in February.
  7. There were many MANY on here, and podcasters and pundits, who were questioning the offensive composition in Dec- February. Yes he’s paid to look around corners. This lineup this year has been hardest thing for me to watch in 25+ years of following the team closely.
  8. Ok not sure I’m following. Red Sox have 34 year old Contreras having career year, and yet we are tied for dead last in home runs, 29th and RBIs 29th and runs scored. So WHO are the big bat dH’s we could get? Red Sox farm System is definitely not as highly rated as we all thought it was. The players we do have can’t hit so nobody wants them. And there aren’t any free agent bats that fit this model. So I repeat WHO could Red Sox acquire that is a thumper? One of the worst things Breslow did was not understand the true value of this market last free agency. The reason all the bats got so much money is cause there was nothing coming in the pipeline 2027 free agents look awful. Red Sox fear of having a bad contract in 2032 sincerely, effed our lineup in 26-27.
  9. Agree…. Contreras was good. Offsets the abysmal effort for Schwarber and Alonso. I still think Alonso would have raked in Fenway. And Contreras in record season will probably not match Alonso productivity offensively. That deal aside. 1. missed on Marte. Early/ Mayer most likely would have got deal done. F 2. missed on Bregman would still have Harrison too.
  10. who is these big thumper DH’s you all talk about like they magically aren’t in demand for other teams? Alonso? Contract too long remember schwarber? Too old Eugenio Suarez? Strikes out too much? sub 30 yr old big thumping bats at DH & 3b just start growing on trees??
  11. A lot of holes in that lineup. Without logic to improve it. 1b if he regresses at all will be 35 next year. (You know the age Adames will be when his contract ends) Could be a hole. Could be great 2b ok fine agree SS massive hole (arias is 2028 producer at earliest) still not close to guaranteed 3b unicorn to obtain especially since you hate any deals that could be bad in 6 years (won’t obtain anyone) OF is set barring injuries. DH unicorn to obtain especially since you hate any deals that could be bad in 6 years (won’t obtain) c- Narvaez pathetically avg this lineup F***ing blows can’t wait to be 27-30th in HR’s, runs scored, RBI’s until Arias evidently Justin Gonzalez and all these other guys arrive in 2030. That worked out super well for us last time. Casas, Campbell, Mayer.
  12. Shaw would be a great to elite get for RS. Cubs probably do the deal for Sonny Gray+ Early. 2027 SP- Crochet, Suarez, Tolle, Bennett, Oviedo, Kutter ability to add someone else if injuries happen.
  13. Yes I think he is really good defender as well. Plus there are pitching FA available next year virtually no bats
  14. Agree about your needs assessment 100% but I’d love your ideas of deals you’d pursue to help this team. 1- free agency? Gleyber Torres? 2- Trades now? 3- guys you think will be available before 2027 season.
  15. “Big time players at trade deadline” ”we are the Boston Red Sox, we don’t have resource issues”
  16. Agree, 100% that’s why I think we need to make some risky trades. I can’t fathom going into spring training next year trying to tell everybody our starting lineup will be 1. Anthony 2. Rafaela 3. Abreu 4. Contreras 5. story 6. Mayer 7. Durbin makes me physically ill.
  17. But FO says they are willing to take on contracts?? You mean to say you don’t believe them??? 😂
  18. No idea……… Bello+ Godbout+ Justin Gonzalez. Something like that. Doesn’t make sense on BTV but I’m assuming Giants aren’t just looking for salary dump. I’m off the rails here but: Hell what if RS got: Adames+ Devers for Bello+Godbout+Gonzalez+ Yoshida? Devers contract will definitely age poorly but 2027-2028….. lineup would be so much more fun. 1b W Contreras 2b W Adames/ Story SS M Mayer maybe Arias late next year 3b Durbin/ Adames LF R Anthony cF Rafaela rf Abreu DH Devers c committee trade: Duran, Chapman, Sonny maybe Whitlock? For prospects
  19. See Buster Olney report. Yes they are willing arguments: 1- Adames is the 1st player in Giants uniform to hit 30 HR’s since Bonds. (Pretty good) 2- RS lineup now. (Not in Notin “Nostradamus 3years from now timeline”) 29th in runs scored 29th in home runs 29th in RBIs 28th in total bases Bottom tier in slugging and OPS Only average in batting average and OBP 3- no free agents that will fix lineup next year, and odds of WC40 playing as well as he has again next year? Using your same fear of guys over 30….. 0% 😄 4- Marcelo Mayer has done nothing to prove he is a “building block” for this squad. This is the first time he’s been healthy in 3 years. Solid SS but literally a platoon SS. 5- RS FO need a right handed bat, Adames could play 2nd or SS, hits for power, FO “says” they are willing to take on money back. Name a better available player that fits need.
  20. Thanks for the play by play of the Woo Sox but how did the Red Sox do? This lineup is criminal in Boston. Brutal brutal brutal
  21. Have you seen Machado contract? Yikes
  22. Early/ Narvaez/ Mayer: I’m willing to move all 3 for proven bats 2027-2028.
  23. I listened to national guys on MLB Now saying how poor catcher play has been for them. Maybe 3 weeks ago…. I could be way off.
  24. If Narvaez has the value around the league that he has on BTV ship him…… tonight. His AB’s are not competitive. I think Wong and Gaspar have outplayed him. Maybe Narvaez for Adames straight up? Giants need a catcher of the future and we need a sh** ton of changes.
  25. There will always be a Yoshida type contract. Every team has them. No team obsesses over them like the MLB top 4 Revenue Red Sox.
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