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Not speaking financially…… just Roster wise. How much better would you feel about next years lineup IF we never traded Devers? Or traded him back in terms that were agreeable to us? 1b- Contreras 2b- Adames or Marte (Mayer was traded in my fantasy world last December) SS- Story or maybe Arias 3b- Durbin LF Anthony CF Rafaela RF Abreu DH Devers C Narvaez/ Wong

BTV severely under values Rushing IMO when you factor years and nearly 800 OPS 9HR already a 1.1 WAR after 156 AB’s extrapolate that out that’s a 4.5 WAR at 25 years old catcher with 5 years control. again I’m all for it. 100% in but I think it takes Early or Tolle + Prospects. Almost any other move whether trade/ or Free agency is going to require taking on more money coming back. So why not go get Adames? Add him + Story + Mayer to play middle Infield.

So to clarify your roster going into 2027: C- (trade), 1st- WC40, 2nd- Story, SS- Mayer, 3b- Durbin, LF- Roman, CF- Rafaela, RF- Abreu, DH- (Free Agent)… Trade options: Quero .486 OPS I’m out….. he looks like Narvaez 2.0 Rushing- I think this checks the box for me. Rushing trade would probably be Early or Tolle+ farm talent… Assuming dodgers willing to trade for SP as that’s where we have depth. Rushing Almost .800 OPS DH Free Agent Options: Taylor Ward (honestly I like) but it’ll make JH really uncomfortable in terms of years, Paul Goldschmidt took a discount to stay in NYC unlikely, Brandon Lowe (honestly I like) but again a 32 yr old Free agent looking to get paid. Ramon Laureano meh, Miguel Andujar?? Outside of them getting Rushing and Lowe/ Ward them rolling this lineup out in March 2027 doesn’t make you want to puke?

1- Because we don’t have any options on this team at C, 2b, SS, or DH that can even touch 750+ OPS over course of season. 2- because this free agent class blows, and the thought of going through 2027 with the worst HR hitting team in baseball in a hitter friendly ballpark makes me want to stab my eyeballs out. 3- assuming Roman comes back and starts hitting at 800+ OPS, Durbin continues to play more like he has in June, Rafaela and Wilyer I believe will be .750 OPS guys. We still have 4 positions in lineup with sub hitters. 4- Assuming Willson continues to play really well but reverts back to that 820 OPS rather than the 900 then we still have 4 positions with no path to measured improvements without a spend or depletion of farm system. Assuming Breslow sits down with JH and says OK……. If we want to look different offensively in 2027 here are our options. C- Narvaez/ Wong both are waaaaaaay below hitters and can’t be counted on for much in 2027. 1B- WC will be 35 but 900 OPS good D, check the box 2B- free agent or Romy/ Seigler platoon SS- Story/ Mayer a. Story 547 OPS, below avg defense and played 49.2% of possible games in Red Sox uniform. b. Mayer young not really consistent injury prone. 3b- Durbin assuming he plays like he has in June very solid. Check the box LF- Roman injury prone and very young. Check the box CF- Rafaela check the box RF- Abreu Check the box DH Duran/ Yoshida below par play out of this position aging not getting better actually worsening. SP is fully in the win now window even if we trade Sonny Gray away. Houck, Oviedo, Crawford, most likely Bello, Early , Tolle, Suarez, Crochet.

I don’t think it’s overblown. In my industry you have 2 types of management 1. Fear of making mistakes asset preservation management. 2. Celebrating the wins/ taking risks asset acquisition management. What do you think has shifted in Boston? And what type of management directive are Red Sox following since 2020? Dodgers have bad contracts everywhere, Tucker might be the worst value add all time, but they focus on the wins and keep pushing. Padres definitely have some clouds looming on their balance sheet, but they have increased love/ interest in that team year after year because they take chances. Guess which type attracts good talent?

Amen 100% agree

2 thoughts first on Breslow second on ownership. 1- I tend to agree, that Breslow must go. I’ll explain why…..ownership has definitely put a divider between him and them and you can see the divider being built from the day he fired Cora. Dead man walking sign to me. My analysis: His errors of commission: He botched communication with Diva Devers, He continues to overvalue Narvaez, undervalues Masa, should have never signed Roman/Campbell to extension deals yet. (My stance on signing Roman to that deal has never waivered). Errors of Omission: should have traded Mayer and Duran. Breslow went into offseason needing a big bat via free agency/ trade. WC40 offset the AB bat but we needed 1 More big bat…. His “models and analytics” drastically underestimated the value of productive bats. A decent year 1 return on WC40, Sonny, Bennett, and Ranger doesn’t make up for the fact that he created the offensive catastrophe by not signing a big bat. Durbin is far from a success story so far, has shown promise as of late. Breslow still hasn’t course corrected on bat, despite saying management saying things like “we are willing to take on money in a longer contract”.. conclusion he needs to be fired: Adios Amigo 2- We need management/ownership to focus a little bit more on 2027 season, less on having cap flexibility and value add contracts in 2031.

I’d obviously prefer Adames but Bichette, Lowe would be solid…. My favorite idea with these 3 is that i think it would take very little outside of AAV capital to get them… on these other guys it will take a ton of young assets to get them..

Every move i have seen anyone list has 2027 more in mind… 2026 while I want to win but agree long shot. Aside from the Mets trade. But here is the logical case. mets trade would give them 65m in salary relief while taking back only 17m. that would save them 80-90m in cash savings. Give them 2 young highly touted guys who they could “fix” and Jake Bennett who looks really really good. For the RS one thing they can do is develop pitchers so we could easily survive that move. Plus will need space in next years starting rotation. So trading Bennett would be survivable. i just don’t see another bat available in FA anywhere near the value of Bichette. Devin Williams could be fixed/ be a boost to bullpen in 2026 maybe 2027?. Peralta would be awesome to add to 2026 rotation if we got into WC, but also could be sold at deadline if we don’t go on a run. That my case for the most 2026 centric trade I’ve seen on here.

I saw on BTV RS get: Bichette (rakes in Fenway) heating up in June. - Peralta- Devin Williams Mets get: Bello- Campbell (upside moves)- Jake Bennett peralta doesn’t make any sense but maybe if we go on a run he would be fun to have…. If not we could trade him again in 30 days

Yep he is not going anywhere….. i forgot about Monfort loyalty

Agree Adames is still by far my favorite fit for this team. He would fit the “willing to take on salary” RS stated publicly category. Obviously every trade will require risk, this would be risking 3 years from now being another Story vs losing all our future farm pieces. I also just think Adames is a good baseball player and will only be 35 when contract is up. Dodgers are FULL of 33-37 year old good baseball players.

What are Goodman stats away from Coors? That would be amazing.

Agree lineup is getting more bat to ball I’d like to see us win 4 out of next 5 it sets up nicely. lineup needs to be left alone… maybe swap Duran and seigler if he keeps pounding. Thats it. Masa needs to bat everyday until RA gets back, or we make a trade. Narvaez has been awful ABS challenges and 5 RBI’s in 137 AB’s get him and Gaspar out of lineup.

I don’t know i could see Royals blowing their deal up on Witt, and he obviously wouldn’t fetch anywhere near his BTV. But Witt for Arias, Mayer, Early, Eyanson, Gonzalez, Soto. They have to listen….. and it would set us up at SS for a LONG time.

Doesn’t strike out a lot… this lineup is hitting ball more great to see. Seigler was a former 1st rder solid on D too. Gaspar experiment is over.

We need a proven bat @ 3b, 2b, or SS. Durbin would translate well to 2b if the right 3b came available. Trade chips right now: Mayer, Early, Witherspoon , Duran, maybe Eyanson, or Arias for a big enough bat……. Targets Marte, Maikel Garcia, Masyn Winn, CJ Abrams.

Good thing “Abreu Gold glove” sucks balls at defense when we actually need it. F***ing loser Breslow here is your dream!!! Defense and pitching for F** sake. Good hell I hate this team.

I now agree. He’s a head case. Time to go!!

Romy 4 ground balls. Way to cost us

F*** Abreu you piece of Sh*t. GG turns to sh*t when we actually need it.

Dude F**k Abreu…. Good god this is F***ing pathetic

mvp doing his best donkey from family guy..

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2 thoughts permeate in my head: 1- Breslow is terrible at roster construction and the fact he thought this team would be fine offensively was a massive risk. He wanted to win the value game in Nov-Feb and misjudged the value of bats. SP is easier to obtain than bats ergo he got better “value” with Starting pitching. a serious miscalculation on his part. 2- Cora created a culture of absolute Divas, he allowed Devers to become who he became. The fact that mid 500 ops Story felt the GM needed to talk to him about any roster/organizational moves was comical. It makes me think the culture of clubhouse needs a complete reset. Guys mentally weak like Mayer, Story, Duran, Casas, Devers show the culture.