Old Red

Who’s the long guy now?

Now we wait to see if there is a run of more players coming down with Covid. You definitely don’t want to get it while in Toronto, or you’ll be there awhile.

The report I read said multiple players won’t be making the trip to Toronto, so who, and how many does that mean?

Your right that Normar was a sulker, and did it during games. That one shot of him in the Yankee Stadium dugout sitting alone when the rest of the team was standing was perfect Nomar. You don’t see Bogey doing that. Bogey is the team leader, and to professional for that.

Exactly. Two entirely different situations outside of the contract. The contract is not the only thing.

Some players have a shelf life in Boston, and Normar was at that point. I remember Nomar sitting in the dugout in Yankee Stadium sulking while Jeter was diving into the stands headfirst going after a foul ball. Bogey, and Nomar is nowhere near a good comparison, and Bogey has plenty of shelf life left.

The way everyone is talking it sounds like everyone is expecting the Red Sox to be out of playoff contention, so might as well trade everyone. Well if that’s the case then let’s do it right, and trade Raffy too. 9 games into the season, and all the trade talk already. WOW! And then of course everyone is just assuming Bogey will wave his NO TRADE. That is a lot of assumptions. Once again Wow! Glad the Celtics are on, because there ain’t no sense watching this team anymore.

I thought the Bogey contract talk on the bullpen thread had dried up yesterday, but wow it started up again. The only thing I want to add is that no one knows what JH is thinking, or Bloom is thinking, or what Bogey, and Boris is thinking. Everything on here is speculation, and opinions by everybody. I do wonder though why people on here wonder why Bogey would not consider himself a SS, and he’s just reciting a line from Boris saying so. I believe Bogey saying he’s a SS is all coming from Bogey himself, because that’s the way he feels about himself, and has nothing to do with Boris. Once again my opinion, and speculation on my part.

That’s the way it looks at the moment unless someone can take it over.

I thought Houck was going to go 6 today, but didn’t quite make it. Good point about Whit giving the pen for the most part the day off. The only problem with Whit going long is that the Sox don’t have a reliable closer at the moment that could be a problem going forward.

I never had a problem with yours, but you can’t say the same about mine, which wasn’t the only one like it on here.

Not a narrative, and just an opinion that you have a hard time accepting. Evil management? You make things up as you go along on your lonesome road. Can I get a hell yea?

I don’t go into it that deep. I’ll leave that up to you to over analyze the whole thing.

John Henry is Ivy League? I didn’t know that.

I disagree that it was worth countering, and I disagree Bogey is playing any guessing games.The offer doesn’t make the Red Sox sound very serious, and that I agree. If the Red Sox make a serious offer, and then it would be Bogey’s turn to either accept, or make a counter offer, but not until then. For once Moon, and I agree.

Exactly, and it wasn’t even worth making a counter offer for a ridiculous lowball offer the Red Sox made with that 1 year add on. The Red Sox would have been better not to make the offer at all.

First of all I did not say Boston was not Bogey’s first choice, and money is. I know how it works on here that if something isn’t worded just right to fit someone else opinions then the word police come out, and try to reword it for you to try, and tell you what you actually think. Hilarious, but nowhere near accurate. If these are facts being stated it would be one thing, but they are not, and just opinions. I know it wouldn’t fit your narrative if Bogey chose curtain number 2 instead of curtain number 1 as people sometimes do. I don’t care if Bogey signs somewhere else for more money, and even if he ends up in a Yankee uniform it would not change my OPINION that his first priority was to remain in Boston. It just my OPINION. When I said Bogey was vastly underpaid I was talking about total, and not about what his per year was. I’m sure he can get more than the $60M left on his contract from someone, and will, and would not be to financially sensible not to do it. Why would anyone make a counter offer to a ridiculously lowball offer that the Red Sox put out there? Come on man is that all you got? Once again these are just my opinions, and won’t change no matter how much you word analyze, and don’t like my opinions.

Pretty much a listless performance from the first play of the game.

Not that I know of.

Cora put him in when they had just closed the gap to 2 runs.

Just because Bogey would choose to opt out of his last three years of his contract that he would be vastly underpaid in does not mean that staying in Boston is still not his #1 priority. He has a big chance to make more money, and I don’t fault him for that, and I’m sure his number 1 option would be to make that money in Boston. He hasn’t even opted out yet, and your talking about is all his actions, and inactions.

The SOUR MAN has joined the party.

I’m not speaking for Bogey at all. I have heard him say he wants to stay in Boston. We have no idea if there was a counter offer, or not, but if just the one year added to his contract was the offer they may have just not seen any sense in any kind of counter offer since that offer wasn’t even any kind of offer to respond to. I’m sure Boris, and Bogey do have a figure in mind, and have for sometime.

If he is teed off enough at management you may be right, but that would be a bad ending as a RedSox. Of course walking out the door at the end of the season will too.

Boras was his agent when he signed his last contract. We disagree on Bogey wanting to stay in Boston. I have no doubt that is his top priority to stay there.