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Old Red replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Saying Monty has been about as good as anyone the last three years is quite the S T R E T C H. How deep are you going to call almost anyone? -
Why are you only focused on the 3 team comment with Monty. That was just something I mentioned along with Monty being not much of a winner. Once again i wouldn’t compare Monty to Scherzer like they are close to equals, because they are not unless you only want to talk about how many teams they have been on the last 3 years.
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NO ONE EVER SAID W-L are everything. NO ONE at all. You on the other hand are trying to say W-L are meaningless. Just, because they are to you in no way makes it that way, and never will. And yes that 39-14 record would be what most people not on here would point out.
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Not everyone who pitches for 3 teams in 3 years is someone I consider a journeyman. Just because I said that about Monty some are trying to compare everyone else who has done that in the same light. Everyone is different, and all the ones I heard compared to Monty are better than Monty like Scherzer, and Lester earlier, and now Bassitt.
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Bassitt 43 wins the last three years. I’ll take it, and one of those years were with the A’s.The rest of his stats aren’t that bad either. I’ll take him over Monty. Oops he’s not available, but Monty is.🙈
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Evol is a good comparison, and he probably wouldn’t have gotten the contract he did without the strong performance in the 2018 PS. Monty picked a good time to pitch well at the end of the regular season, and the postseason, and yes he will get paid more, because of it.
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This we agree on.
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And once again I’m not one who is disregarding the W-L record, so all kinds of bells, and whistles are going off to tell me I’m wrong.
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If you’ve been in the league for 7 yrs like Monty, and are just 38-34 for your career it can’t be all blamed on the team he has been on. Some of the blame has to be on him too. He had a good postseason, and now he’s available. Take him, or leave him. Some one will take him, and pay him well. If it’s the Red Sox I hope it works out.
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We’ve already gone over this hundreds of times already. I’m not into making trade suggestions even though I did make one today. I’m not a GM, or HOBO, and I don’t get paid to be one.You like making BTV trade accepted suggestions, and that’s fine for you even though they never happen.
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You don’t have to be arguing, and I didn’t say you was. My stance is FA pitching is over priced, and risky. Agree, or disagree one way of the other, but in the short, and long run it doesn’t change my opinion.
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Well said. I know many things go into W-L for a starting pitcher, and they are not the stars today like they used to be back in the Koufax, and Gibby days.
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If it took that much then definitely a BIG no! I was just throwing something out there that I don’t normally do, but things are slow at the moment.
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No, I said I goofed up. I thought for some reason the White Sox CF was named Martin. I wasn’t thinking about Chris Martin.
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Yes that would be a concern that I hadn’t looked up?
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Who would be aging from the Red Sox?
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My goof. I was talking thinking about Robert the White Sox CF.
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It’s been close since Brez was hired.
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Let’s throw in Martin, and some other pieces on the Sox, and make it a blockbuster.
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Have they even gotten a pitching coach yet?
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I have already mentioned before. Let’s make some trades for some younger pitching. And no I don’t know with who. FA pitchers with big contracts are just to risky to me.
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Rondon was pretty good his last two years, before the Yankees signed him. How did that work out? How has Robbie Ray worked out in Seattle? These guys were available too.
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The Yam Man’s suitors can begin courting tomorrow at 8 AM. I’m thinking his courtship will take longer than what Bloom’s did with Yoshida, which was done in record time.
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I don’t know how the Yam Man will work out, but I’ve been telling you guys that this current crop of FA pitching is not worth all that money. You guys are trying awfully hard to convince me they are. I’ve been saying right along I would rather see the Red Sox trade for some young pitching from somewhere that would be a lot cheaper, and hopefully just as good. Most of these guys are just getting paid more so, because they are available than anything else. Let’s made some trades.
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I understand that point just like ticket prices go up every year to help pay for it.