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I'm not sure how this makes any sense. Does one have to be in love with every single position, slot in the lineup, and player to not hate baseball? I think most people would prefer an everyday player over a platoon player. It feels teams typically platoon when a better option isn't available. It's reasonable in some cases, you can't have an all star at every position and sometimes a platoon can work out great, but you can't over use it because you ONLY GET 13 position players. I don't think it's hateful, or unreasonable to state that someone would prefer continuity at a position such as short stop and not have it be a rotation of players.
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er? 1. It's not like these guys sit around and do nothing on days they don't play. They have training programs. Not playing some games isn't the time off that I think people think it is. Unless you're literally F**** from injury and can't move, you're being active and training your body ifyou're a pro athlete. If hes not....shame on him. 2/3 there's a very stark difference between rotating ROmney around as a platoon guy and sitting Mayer, perhaps against some lefties and then strictly platooning him. Definitions mean something to me, a utility guy who might take some at bats away from Mayer vs. LHP on days off iS NOT the same as him being a platoon player. I'm not against that, I'm against a Platoon at SS.
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You can't learn to hit lefties if you sit vs. lefties. If you platoon him you're putting his development on hold. That's a bad ideal.
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I'm being over dramatic GDit
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See, I just think it's 100% reversed. THat's like saying you break in a stud starting pitching prospect as a reliever. Which actually DOES happen, but they don't keep a guy there. That's why I used Peyton Tolle as an example. Yes, they put him in the pen at the end of last year but they're not going to keep him there this year. 2026 is a new season. They're starting off 0-0, that's not the time of year teams get cute and do desperate things. If he does get platoned, it will not be until after they've given him a long look. He still needs to develop at the MLB level and platooning him is effectively putting his development on hold. I would be about as surprised as I've been about anything I've seen the last several years if they go into the season planning him to be a platoon. Like, insanely surprised. It doesn't make sense.
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What would an offseason be without me taking a stand against everyone and being right in the end. Last year it was going over the first LT threshold. This year it will be Marcelo Mayer being your full time SS to start the season.
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So how does a guy go from top 10-15 prospect in all of baseball to a platoon player in value in just one season?
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this. But I fully plan on gloating when Mayer is NOT a platoon player. Do we have precedent for this?
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Yes exactly. And Mayer is still considered one of the most talented and promising youngsters in the game. If you plan on just platooning him you're doing your team a great disservice by not trading him for better value. But I think the thing to do is stick him SS and Story at 2nd just like you said. If his defense is plus to better then even if he only marginally gets better vs. LHP he's a full time starter. You don't move off a good defender from SS for a platoon. SS is not really a platooning position.
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you're better off trading him first. I never heard of a guy being regarded so highly and then almost immediately with little exposure and little development being platooned. You say "you don't just ignore that" but you have to realize that you're the one suggesting they do something that teams just don't do. He's never really had a lot of time or AB's vs. LHP at any level either. You don't just give up on someone with all star talent like that in such a small sample size. Again.....they will not start him off as a platoon player next year. You can book that.
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If they're going to platoon Mayer, he has more value to the team in a trade. Trade him.
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That makes more sense, you're 28 and have been in the league for 5 years. You kind of are what you are at that point. Mayer is a young top prospect still developing perhaps at the MLB level. If they believe in him, at the very least, he's getting a long look before he's platooned.
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Cora literally said he would play FT mostly, last year.
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No, I don't think you take one of the top prosepcts in all of baseball and almost immediately start off his career by sitting him vs. LHP. He will never learn to hit LHP if he has it in him by doing that. It's 100% a growth stunter if youre ceiling is an everyday player. THe Sox are betting on this youth movement, they can't have platoons. Platoons are your plan b, never your plan A. I just think it's insanely unlikely they do that.
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I'd still take that bet for the 2026 season, althought I'd be much more confident, like 100% confident that they're not going to start off that way. That's like, it's agusust, they're in a playoff race and Mayer is just absolutely AWFUL vs. LHP and the offense needs a boost.
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So hold up, they won't platoon a guy because they aren't doing it already? But they'll take a kid who was regarded as one of the top prospects in all of baseball who NEEDS exposure to LHP and platoon him? I think the logic is the opposite there. If anything Platoon Duran.
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Well Mayer is either on the team or not, so if he's not then he's certainly not platooning here.
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Good point, If I remember correctly they brought him up because of injury. If Bregman didn't go down, they likely don't bring Mayer up until the end of the year (if he was still healthy)
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*sigh* Everyone once in a while I feel so strongly about something I'd be willing to bet on it. Anyone want to wager Mayer platooning in 2026? The Red Sox have a very strict plan for how they develop guys, yes they make exceptions like.....there's a few months left in the season and we are in a pennant race. A perfect example of this is Tolle, who they moved to the bullpen for the end of the year/playoff run. But he's probably going to move back to the rotation and start the year in AAA to finish his development. Anyone who has listened to what guys like their director of player development talk about what they plan on doing with Mayer, or even Cora explicityly stating he's going to be a full time player it's BLATANTLY obvious they're going to play him full time. THey're not looking at the splits on BA like you guys, assuming zero growth, and making the types of moves you make in September/October in the spring of next year. I'll wager on that.
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Mayer may be platooning in 2027, or at the end of the year in 2026, but he's going to be a full time starter this year. Book it.
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No, they're not going to do that with him.
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I don't think that's a 100% fair accurate assessment of the Sox player development philosophy. I think there's a very real difference between how you handle a guy long term vs. calling him up and exposing him to the big leagues for the first time. There's a very stark difference between calling a kid up to the big leagues when he's still developing at the end of the year and platooning him for a month or two vs. platooning him all year round. The only way Mayer will ever learn to hit LHP will be hitting LHP. I feel pretty confident about stating that they're not going to go into the 2026 with plans for him to be both on the big league club and to be a platoon player. I'm not saying they won't sit him vs. some lefties and let Romney get his at bats, but they're not going to cut his development short by depriving him of that opportunity. He was ranked 15th/12th by BA/MLB last year (and got into the top 10 at various times). Correct me if I'm wrong, but has a team ever taken a player of that caliber and potential and with only 125 at bats under their belt said "nahhhh lets platoon you now".
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You won't ever develop into an everyday hitter by sitting vs. all LHP. You can't learn to hit LHP if you don't face LHP. Mayer may very well end up being a platoon player one day, but they're not going to platoon him in 2026. That's certianly not good for his development, and thus maybe the team long term.
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I doubt we add 3 infielders this offseason, certainly not starting caliber MLB level infielders.
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Mayer may be a platoon guy, but he's too young and too talented to not see if he can be an everyday player right now. I don't think they should take a guy deserving of being a top 10 prospect in all of baseball and make him a platoon guy without giving him a chance to see how he grows first.
