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  1. In ten years from now, if the same salary inflation rate holds and the best player in baseball reaches free agency we would be talking about a guy signing a 1.8 billion dollar contract.
  2. Every contract for the best player in the game is going to be insane from here on out. If we aren't willing to go a little crazy, we'll never sign the best players in baseball ever again.
  3. I see people continously putting Mayer at 3B and Story at SS. While he scouted as having plus arm strength, his arm was weaker than both Story and Bregman last year. I'm not against Mayer at 3rd, but I am cautious over it.
  4. And that's why I loved the Bregman signing last year, but I wouldn't want to trade away the farm for a veteran presence. And I get just trading Duran for Marte doesn't run the well dry.
  5. If you were signing Tucker, you could trade two of your outfielders. That's a lot of chips to throw down and fill in the holes. I don't think it's very realistic at all that they sign him. If the Sox do something big this offseason, I think it's going to be on the pitching side of the equation. I think you're absolutely 100% right though, it's an upgrade in the roster not over Duran specifically.
  6. Ketel Marte - 2nd Kyle Tucker - LF Roman Anthony - RF Trevor Story - SS Masataka Yoshida - DH Marcel Mayer - 3B Carlos Narvaez - C Lowe/Casas - 1B (forgot about 1B until now, this position is the biggest question mark in my lineup and player too) Rafaela - CF Note: I know I just Poo Poo'd trading Duran for Marte but the more I think about it the more I'm not 100% against it. I also think signing Tucker is rather unrealistic. However, this lineup could really mash and Duran/Abreu should be able to fill in the gaps on the pitching side.
  7. I get that "Anthony" is the upgrade by the definiton of some and I don't disagree with that take but it's just an odd way of framing it. Like, the guy is already on your roster so how exactly are you "looking for". Could the Sox possibly move TWO outfielders this offseason and sign Kyle Tucker? LF Tucker CF Rafaela RF Anthony Not going to speculate further on this comment about who you get back for Duran/Abreu (or maybe it's Duran/Garcia) but packaged up with some prospects you can imagine the possibilities of plugging up 3B and SP2.
  8. I know he's like really good and this may be an unpopular opinion but I don't really want Marte. It would sort of feel like a slap in the face to suck all these years, build up the farm, and then just trade it away for a bunch of guys 32 and up. Imagine siging Bregman and/or trading for Marte? between those two and Story they're all going to be 32 and 33 next year and the vast majority, by far, fall off a cliff between 30-35. If I'm trading for guys, and I'm using up some of my better assets.....I'm getting back younger cost controlled guys. They all can't be elite like Crochet, but that's the type of trade I'm ok with, a guy who's young and in his prime. Otherwise I'd rather just build a homegrown team like KC or go out and spend the money.
  9. I think if you're the Red Sox, you're dangling all of Abreu, Duran, and Rafaela, and taking the best deal on the table.
  10. That's definitionally NOT the definition of LITERAL. If I literally said that I would have said "If it's only for one year then I still make this trade" It's either definitively one year It's either definitively a trade with an extension It's a trade with knowing the ballpark figure it would take to resign him (this is what I have said). This makes an extension doable, and likely if you have the will to pay the money. But it certainly does make it certain. THat's a risk, and one I'm willing to take. Knowing the framework of an extension and with certain level of certainty and risk trading for guy is in NO WAY anagolous with "literally saying I'm ok with one year"
  11. Here's another 3 team trade I put together: 3 team trade between the Red Sox, Phillies, and Tigers Red Sox get: Tarik Skubal/Josue Briceno Phillies get: Jarren Duran/Connelly Early/Noah Song (just because) Tigers get: Jesus Luzardo/Andrew Painter/Yhoiker Fajardo
  12. If he was willing to negotiate a long term extension yes. 100% yes. That's probably more on John Henry than Skubal. BTV has this as a fair trade.
  13. I'm not saying you have to negotiate a done deal, but players, teams and agents talk to each other. Even if they don't have a deal in place before executing a trade (which moon pointed out is rare) that doesn't mean you don't either have A. a frame work for one, or B. an ideal of what they're looking for. E.G. Maybe Skubal is looking for 400 million. which has been floated, so now you know about what it's going to take, maybe he takes a little under 400 if you're offering higher AAV....or maybe not. But you have a ballpark figure and if you're not comfortable with that you don't make the trade. I get this is fantasy, lots of moving parts, but so is pretty much everything we talk about until it happens.
  14. Ok, but I've literally posted a three team trade scenario where Duran is going to Cleveland or Philly. and yes, as I and others have continuously stated here if you believe you can extend him then yes you do that trade over and over again. Skubal is the best pitcher on planet earth it really isn't very hard here to justify trading for him. Whether or not it's realistic is irrelevant. This is a fan forum and there's speculation that he's on the trade market, and a lot of these rumors have come out of DETROIT. Why wouldn't anyone want to kick the tires on that?
  15. Baseballtravevalue rates this trade as a fair trade. Red Sox get: Braden Montgomery/Kyle Teel/Chase Meidroth/WIkleman Gonzalez White Sox Get: Garrett Crochet 😎
  16. Depends on what your criteria is. Are you saying that teams don't trade for players and players do not immediately sign an extension? because by that definition the Sox didn't trade for Crochet and then extend him but they did shortly afterwards and they likely had an ideal what it was going to take to extend him before they pulled that trigger.
  17. The Detroit Tigers won 3 more games than we did in 2019 and the Sox largely had the same team that won a world series in 2018. It's not like I'm pulling this out of nowhere, as it's been reported that the Tigers have kicked the tires on trading Skubal if they can't resign him. Which is where I think the decision to trade him comes from, and not how many teams finish in front of you. Conversely, the Tigers could hold onto Skubal and trade him at the deadline in 2026 instead if they're out of contention and know they can't resign him. I'm not saying it's likely he's traded, it's probably more probable than not he isn't. But if the Tigers decide to trade him.....you got to be interested.
  18. Ok, but there's been rumblings that Detroit has considered shopping him around. Perhaps they're just that, rumors, but it happens, and if he does go on the trade market you'd be insane to not kick the tires and see if you could live with the contract/price
  19. Because they have no interest in resigning him at the value he wants. If you know you're not going to dish out 400 million for him why not get value? That's what happened with Soto, and that's what happened with Betts. It's not that insane....teams do it.
  20. Every single player in MLB would extend for the right price. The question becomes what that price is and if you can live with it. If the answer is no.....then you don't trade for him.
  21. Because if Skubal is legit on the trade market another team will trade for him. And while that doesn't guarantee they extend him there's a good chance they could. We shouldn't be as inept as the Yankees were with Soto, you don't do this if you can't extend him. You should have a pretty darn good ideal what his number is.
  22. I'm not saying I like it, but I think a lot of this is their philosophy in advanced metrics and using data to analyze players. Personally, I would really like them to do both, maybe they feel that would be a conflict of interest.
  23. Here's a BTV trade that works 3 way with the Cleveland Guardians. Disclaimer: I know this is a long shot, and does not fully grasp team needs and evaluations, but it's for fun and conversation. Tigers get: Travis Bazzana/Connelly Early/Michael Kennedy Guardians get: Jarren Duran/David Sandlin Red Sox get: Tarik Skubal/Khal Stephen/Jacob Cozart Why the Tigers do it. They can't resign Skubal, so they go out and get value for him now. They get a controllable pitcher with 6 years of team control, and a top infield prospect in Travis Bazzana who fills a need on their roster, and another young arm in Kennedy. Why the Guardians do it. They reportedly have liked Duran and need both help in the outfield and the bullpen, Sandlin is a high minors prospect who many think is best suited for the bullpen who could probably accelerate his path to the majors by committing to the bullpen. Why the Red Sox do it: Do I really need to explain????
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