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I think he gets about that, not sure about the 4th year though. I just don't think he's going to get that in Boston.

I don’t think Scherzer is realistic. This will be his last contract and he wants to go on the west coast. I think they still plan on moving Whitlock to the rotation next year. I don’t think both of JDM not opting out and Schwarber extended happen. I think only one does.

Go down with the ship? You people do realize this team would have been worse with AB in lf this year?

For me, a better way of looking at things is "everyone has a price". I would trade anyone at any time contingent upon return. Which often doesn't make sense, like....how often do you see Ace for Ace trades?

Seager is probably get paid much more than $20 million per, and he probably won’t be worth it, he has declining defense at SS just like Bogaerts. Id sign Correa this off-season and move Bogaerts to 2nd. If you want a good hitting shortstop who is going to continue playing short stop my money is on him.

You don’t think a team will give Bogaerts a raise over 4/80?

I’d take Carlos Correa over Bryant. He can slide over to SS in a year or two. Bogey to 2B/3B. Devers to 1B/DH

Maybe, but I don’t think Duran was a consensus can’t miss prospect. Even those who inflated him bought into his power. While he may have received too much helium in my opinion the book is far from closing for him.

I was really surprised to see Duran as a top 25 prospect. Unfortunately that makes the expectations for a kid almost impossible to attain. He’s maybe an average starter at best, a good 4th outfielder if not.

My money is on him starting in Greenville but being on the first bus to Portland. He will not spend more than 2 months in Greenville In 2022 if that.

EROD is getting a QO.

BTV has to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Any given team could be placing a much higher or lower value than they do on a guy. Plus depth and needs need to be taken into account too. Also how competitive a team currently is will change their value system as well. For example. You could blow away the LA Dodgers in a trade for Walker Buehler but guess what the dodgers aren't trading him. You'd literally have to offer them something stupid like Pivetta/Casas/Yorke/Bello/W. Gonzelez.

If Dalbec is getting you a young pitcher with serious ACE potential it's because he's part of a package that headlines other prospects such as Casas, Mayer, or Yorke +

Plus you're not getting an ace for Dalbec. You are probably going to get the pitching version of himself. A very live arm that has some holes in his game, maybe it's lack of a 3rd pitch, or a guy who has the stuff buy hasn't found his control yet. Maybe you end up getting lucky with a guy who puts it all together or who develops into a late-inning reliever but it could take you a year or two to see that. We need a rotation for 2022.

Fair, but how many up and coming prospects do you hear a GM say, “this guy might be special but he might only be as good as a 4th outfielder”

Ok, I have officially changed my opinion. I'd rather face the Yankees in a one-game playoff. Maybe we can win the 1st WC spot and the Yankees and Bluejays tie for he 2nd one and they both have to burn their ace to face us.

Red Sox have fared better against Cole this year too so maybe my fears are unfounded.

I believe I addressed my opinions on the matter above.

ADD: the reinforcements ready mid-2022 might be a lot better than what we got this year. I suspect Seabold to pushing for the majors and could provide great relief for the rotation. If Richards continues to look solid out of the pen, I'd love to have him back on a 1-year deal to replace the Garrett Whitlock role, and you never know, he may be a guy who can step into a Setup man/Closer role too. Casas bat might catch fire for you in the dog days of summer and I think Connor Wong is a real sleeper pick for a future catcher in Boston. I don't expect Groome to be a serious option right now as I'd have him penned in to spend most of his 2022 in Portland, but if he returns next year and regains some of his velocity back he could fly up to the majors too. Josh Winckockski might find himself on the SP depth chart next year too.

Look, I suppose one could say the prospect of facing Robbie Ray isn't any better. But I think RR is having a career year while Cole is one of the best pitchers in all of baseball. Good Pitching almost always beats good hitting. I'd be more scared of facing Cole and the Yankees than Ray and the Blue Jays. But who knows, Maybe the Jays are the team you want for one game and the Yankees are the team you can beat in a series.

I'd rather face Toronto than Garrit Cole and the Yankees in a one game series.

For 2022 I want to strengthen the starting pitching. The rotation may improve naturally with Chris Sale back to full health and Garrett Whitlock making a successful transition to the rotation, but you may be losing E-Rod as well. First thing I do is offer Erod a qualifying offer, if he turns it down you can effectively target another starting pitcher without losing a draft pick. There's no silver bullet in FA, everyone comes with a level of risk vs. reward. Scherzer is still elite but old, Syndergaard could be the steal of the century but he's coming off of TJ. So my rotation is going to look something like this. Sale Erod/Gausman/Scherzer/Syndergard Eovaldi Pivetta Whitlock. Next I'm signing a position player that can shore up the defense and elongate a lineup that's too top heavy. I have Carlos Correra in mind, plug him at 2nd with the plan on moving him to SS when Xander walks. Pick up the option on Vazquez and plug Kike into CF. Your lineup becomes Kike CF Correra 2B Devers 3B Bogaerts SS JDM DH Verdugo LF Renfroe RF Dalbec 1B Vasquez C If you JDM does not return you can sign Schwarber, which gives you another lefty. Of course you could just sign Schwarber anyways and plug him in LF and move Kike to 2nd.

Chris Sale is your #1 pitcher

Additionally, even if bloom is only 1% responsible for the turnaround it doesn’t change the reality of their past and current situation. There’s a timing mechanism to this, the fact that the Sox are resetting the same year they’re competing should spell good things for 2022 and beyond.

That was merely a supporting bullet point to my overall point. It’s fair that bloom is not single handily responsible for the turn around.