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  1. Hugh2
    He finished every season on the IL, it’s really not that misleading. There’s serious injury concern with him.
  2. Hugh2
    I’d trade him for an infielder of equal value right now.
  3. Hugh2
    Games played by year Mayer: 91, 78, 77, 87 Story: 94, 43, 26, 157 even before one of them goes down you’re running a platoon out at 2nd. not sure any “but” is making me feel better when you add up all those games you get some full seasons. In 8 potential full seasons you have 1. the capacity for things to get ugly is sky high
  4. Hugh2
    Trevor Story and Marcelo Mayer. Two guys who have one full season between the two of them the past 4 years. theres a real chance your infield at some point this season is Romy Gonzalez, Nate Eaton, Nick Sogard and Wilson Contreras. A very high chance of that infield minus one plus one of Story/Mayer. spring training is 3 weeks away and this is starting to feel like roster malpractice with what they’ve spent prospect capital and money on this offseason and to have nothing to show for it up the middle.
  5. Hugh2
    What I think would be interesting, is if Bregman would have taken the Sox offer, as is with the cash and PDV if they only added a full no trade clause.
  6. Hugh2
    Yes but my point was Ohtani was telling other teams the same thing. That he wanted the deal structured in a such a way, he would have had a similar deal whether he signed in LA, or NY or Toronto. His motivation was largely about the team acquiring him to be able to work the luxury tax for competitive reasons
  7. Hugh2
    I don’t think it has anything to do with CA law because reportedly Ohtani was asking other teams to structure the deal the same.
  8. Hugh2
    If you take the payments it’s often more in principal, but if you want an apples to apples comparison you have to discount those cash flows back to a present day value using a discount rate, I know with financial instruments they often use the risk free rate or something like that [LIBOR was standard back in the day]. So if the principal of future payments is equal to principal in present day the payments are never enticing so they HAVE to be higher. you literally just made my argument. How many pro athletes f*** up in life and go broke? That crap happens. There is a lure to taking more money in the future. That was my only argument, I was never trying to say the NPV of Boston’s deal was superior. just because pro athletes are already paid, doesn’t mean that they don’t make financial decisions like that too.
  9. Hugh2
    I meant the cash, the Sox are paying out or would be paying out more Cash to him in the future. I never once said the NPV of their deal was more, obviously the Cubs offer was superior.
  10. Hugh2
    I’m sure no one else out there wanted to offer Ohtani money. The bluejays offered $700 million, but it’s known that Ohtani SPECIFICALLY requested that any team paying him structure it with massive amounts of money deferred because he wanted whatever team he played for to have the financial flexibility to build a team around him.
  11. Hugh2
    I thought it was implied that if you’re taking money later, rather than sooner there is a premium attached to it. That’s how it works the majority of the time, but there are certainly times like this that make sense for a lot of people. it’s like the age old question of taking the monthly payments or the one time payout when you hit the jackpot. We can math this all day but fact is there are people choosing one and some the other.
  12. Hugh2
    Net present value can easily be higher taking more money in the future if it’s a lot more money. You’re not the only person who understands how to discount back cash flows to present day.
  13. Hugh2
    And I gave you A reason to, I didn’t say that’s what people always do or even that it was optimal. It’s just a fact. Some people take money spread out, they usually get compensated for waiting.
  14. Hugh2
    So the only reason people invest in 401k? (Lets disregard every other financial instrument) is because the employer matches? people take more money all the time to receive it in the future. It’s like saying I can give you $5 today or $10 tomorrow. you act like what I’m saying absurd or non existent but yet we live in a world where contracts are signed everyday that are backloaded and or have deferrals. So if what I’m saying is wrong why is everyone else wrong too? Riddle me that.
  15. Hugh2
    If principal is equal more often than not you’d be right with caveats but um some people like to win. lets not act like there are not contracts that are back loaded because there are. Is that not money later? What is deferred money if not money later. Why invest in a 401k are we all dumb???? It’s more enticing if those payments go up.
  16. Hugh2
    A. That’s pure conjecture, that’s fair but that’s exactly what it is. From what we know that came out of Bregmans camp it was all about job security B. Why can’t they be mutually exclusive? Would you feel better if after signing Bregman we spend zero money and didn’t sign anyone else? that seems to be very conflicting with taking issue with the team not spending the money to improve the team. And why is PDV so important here? Some players prefer the money later. Also, Suarez is younger and performed better than Bregman last year. Suarez got 130 million. What was the Sox offer to Bregman?
  17. Hugh2
    This is pure conjecture but I feel if Breslow did hand out a no trade clause, going against “club policy” he probably could have defended his position while keeping his job intact. Maybe not…idk. but I think it’s painstakingly obvious Raffy was shipped outta town because of John Henry. He wanted him off the team at all costs.
  18. Hugh2
    I thought it was fairly obvious that the defining factor Bregman was the no trade clause. Boston has a history of trading away aging stars and Bregman has been pretty adamant about wanting his next contract to be his last. He wants to sign where he’s going to end his career. Idk, maybe you don’t trust the reporting of Abraham but this is pretty consistent with what he heard out of Bregmans camp for a long time. He valued stability.
  19. Hugh2
    I’m not comparing Contreras to Alonso here. I just don’t think the offers the Sox made to Bregman and Alonso weren’t mutually exclusive. in other words, I don’t believe that the Sox offer to Alonso changes if Bregman signs before him. more often than not, the Sox place a value on a guy and they don’t budge. For better or worse. They’ve probably avoided a lot of bad contracts with that philosophy, but they’ve also missed out on a ton of premium players over the last several years. Hence the dance reference.
  20. Hugh2
    Are you seriously trying to combine my analogies and get all serious with them? Edit: I’m not trying to sound brash, I’ll play along. ok but in pro sports the prettiest girl dances with the guy who hands out the biggest contract
  21. Hugh2
    No one is saying they don’t have value. Just that they’re overvalued by some people. exhibit A. The desire to sign Eugenenio Saurez
  22. Hugh2
    And once you hit that LT your cash spent goes up exponentially. Of course cash spend is paramount but I don’t think a team with revenues as high as the Sox say “whoaaa, if we sign Pete Alonso we are going into the red” teams that do dabble around the LT we see year after year set themselves up to go under and reset. Even the Dodgers have reset.
  23. Hugh2
    I don’t think there sights set on Bregman had anything to do with it. The Sox had their number and they don’t budge, they think they’re the smartest guys in the room but more often end up being the guy without a girl to dance with.
  24. Hugh2
    Would you rather have the Sox not in on people? You know I’ve been very critical of this FO this offseason but all these teams are checking in on guys; you just read about here because this is the Sox FO. This is what happens in FA with teams and agents. Everyone is “checking in” with everyone. i get mad/excited about the final product.
  25. Hugh2
    Yup, I still say there overvalued. When a guy hits 50 home runs a year and literally nothing else he gets overvalued. id say Saurez fits that narrative better than Alonso does but Pete still ain’t no judge
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