Hugh2
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I believe when you put a guy on the 60 day you remove him from the 40 man, like we just did with Mondesi. Phillie can now retain Song without burning a 40 man spot.
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I think it depends on what we are talking about. Some things are more subjective than others and others not so much. An opinion, depending on the subject can be very wrong and if it's right to someone they're either crazy or they're just misinformed. Other things can NOT be taken away from us. Like, I could say Ohtani is the worse player in the league, does that make it right to me because it's my opinion? how can it be because any reasonable person would say that's wrong. My opinion is wrong. However, I can say Chicken Parm is the most delicious dish ever. That's my opinion and one no one can take away from me because it's purely up to my taste buds and no one else.
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In my opinion, Verdugo and Duval are going to be gold glovers this year. It's my opinion. That was a joke, everyone. To be fair, Kike's defense wasn't as spectacular in 2022 as it was in 2021, but it was in a much smaller sample size and he was battling injuries so to say it was average is still pretty good. That's fair. It's also fair to say that if given a clean bill of health we should expect him to play plus defense out there this year. I think he will.
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One thing is for certain, and that's this is a unique situation. I think you almost have to throw him being a starter out the window now, Philly will have to carry them on their 40 man, and if they want to compete that's a huge hole on your roster for a guy who can't help your team out right now. If he has a MLB future, hes' going to be helpful much much quicker coming out of the bullpen. Maybe he will become a good relief pitcher, with aspirations to start and come back to the Sox in free agency and become the reverse Rich Hill.
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eeeee arrrrrrrrr. He don't pass me eye test!!!!
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There's a huge difference between being 26 and doing something every day of your life, and being 26 and not doing it in 3 years. I speak as someone who has been a professional athlete and trained pro athletes for a large chunk of their life. He didn't just miss time, he missed developmental time. The time that he won't get back now because now he has to pitch in the bigs. This is bad because it really screws with the kid's development. No matter how well in shape he stayed in the military, it was not functional towards baseball, and he wasn't under the supervision of MLB pitching coaches facing live batters. He has talent, yes, talent is only half the equation. Franchy Cordero had all the talent in the world and he laid eggs without missing any time. You need development, and you NEVER truly know how a human being is going to develop. Do people really sincerely think we should have protected Noah Song? It really just boggles my mind.
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Three things. Your reasoning is purely anecdotal, and conjecture doesn't make you wrong. If they had an inside scoop, why didn't everyone else? I think we would of heard something. It didn't help the Phillies, their hope was to stash him on the military reserve list for the year. Now they were forced to have a kid skip up 4 levels of pro ball after not playing for over 3 years. No one wants to do that. When you consider that, it's very unlikely the Phillies had the inside scoop.
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Even when we signed him months back Bloom said they knew they were signing someone who was still recovering. You know how these Bloom haters are, they just make s*** up to complain about. The mind-boggling thing is there are real reasons to critique Bloom. Why not stick to the facts???
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Agreed, when they selected Song I believe they thought they could stash him on the military list all year
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I get you’re a navy guy, I was in the army myself so nothing but respect to all my fellow us service members but if really cared about song, he wouldn’t have messed with his development.
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I'd say Mike RiKard is the one who drafted him, with some input from Reed Gragnani. DD probably didn't know much about him until after he was drafted. Obviously, he fell in love.
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25 other teams did not. Usually, you draft a guy you think is going to stick on your rosters.
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WHy wouldn't they have been caught off guard? are you suggesting the Philly had the inside scoop to the United States military and new he was going to be allowed to play baseball this year?
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The development for the catcher is slower (especially on offense) than any other position in baseball. At this point in their careers, Reese actually has a higher offense output than Christain Vazuez has had with what is now better defense. It's not my first bet, or a sure thing by any chance, but he could end up surprising a lot of people this year.
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Maybe, maybe not. That's why I said he's an X-factor. This could be a break out year for him.
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That's fair
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That's the problem with Ort, poor command. If he had good command his fastball would play up well. High 90's with good movement. Of course, as Red said that doesn't make you good, if you don't know where it's going.
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No it doesn't. But you can't teach a guy to throw 99, 100 MPH. You can teach him to command it better. That can be the difference between a 5.00 ERA and being a shut down closer. This is why teams take flyers on arms in the bullpen every year. Every team does it. Some times a guy develops and sometimes they don't. That's baseball.....it's a hard sporrt.
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an X factor here might also be Reese McGuire. He could have a break out year this year. Or not. Either way his defense will be an upgrade.
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The lineup has talent this year too. Not 2020 levels but if Duvall is healthy, Casas and Yoshida are the real deal (looks good so far) and Turner doesn't fall off a cliff this lineup is going to be pretty good. Id' throw Mondesi in there but he has almost no history of staying healthy.
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That's fair, and he very well may end up turning into something, or not. But you can only carry guys like him for so long.
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*sigh* why do I even try. The thing I hate about this conversation is it forces me to be negative about Song, I hope the kid becomes an MLB starting pitcher. But this notion that he should have been protected when his picking was pretty unprecedented is just absurd. Also, linking him with Ort is just stupid....If there is an argument to be made here it is keeping Ort over WARD. At this point, a guy like WARD has a higher chance of having a good productive MLB career. He was literally the VERY FIRST guy picked in the MLB rule 5 draft. Losing WARD, and protecting Ort/Braiser seems really dumb at this point. I don't think you could ever say that about Song, even if he becomes good. It's just a weird, unprecedented, unlikely situation. If I had a genie lamp, I'd literally use one of my three wishes to end this conversation forever.
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Apparently you missed my comment where I said "this is probably not happening"
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By that logic Ort is a good prospect, he hits 100. He could be one tweak away from being the next Andrew Miller.
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Yeah, which is why you wouldn't rush him back like that, but they were forced to because he had to pitch on the 26 man this year. It's pretty hard to prove an injury depending on what we are talking about. But there are MRI's, X-rays, Cat Scans, etc etc etc. I'm not sure what happens with HIPPA when a grievance is filed, but I don't think it's that hard to prove if Philly is exaggerating the injury. Which, is probably not happening. I don't think it's sinister on Phillys part, just stupid.