Hugh2
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Born in Orlando, grew up in the suburbs. He choose to stay home for the same money. Sox would probably have had to of added a year. Are people going to complain about not signing a guy to 4 years who they never even heard of last week?
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Throwing all my chips in. This will make…or break me
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Prediction: Sox will make MAJOR move within the next 180 hours…..starting now
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I've been a strong advocate for the Sox signing two starting pitchers. I would have been ok with Eflin as the second guy.
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You can slide Correa over there in 2024 to make room for Marcelo Mayer.
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Everything comes down to price. What are the Mariners asking for?
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Does Xander really have that many years in front of him? I could see him being a MLBer for another ten years! But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him hit a wall and no longer be an everyday player in just a few years. It’s not unreasonable to assume something inbetween.
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Mookie probably breaks the cycle (age helps him) but the Sox actually have an above average track record of knowing when to move on from a guy. Still, if Henry has a time machine I don’t think it’s 100% unreasonable to see Sale gone and Mookie locked up.
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The Sox may be shopping the trade market for an outfielder too.
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It also doesn’t have to make sense. The Sox didn’t trade are Renfroe with the ideal they needed to sign Haniger in a year. It’s a consequence and not out of reason.
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My point exactly
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Who is durable in this FA outfield class?
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If healthy Haniger is better. More D and OBP with good pop. That’s a nice player on your roster.
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Imagine being the one guy against signing a 26 year old Rafael Devers
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Lets go Red Sox! Lets go Red Sox!
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No matter what our opinions are, isn’t there a little bit of every Sox fan that wants to see Leonardo DiCaprio go inside John Henry’s head and tell him he needs to spend like he’s the Dodgers. I’ll dream big for a minute. Heck, they could hypothetically resign Bogaerts, #2/3 pitcher, and Judge and still reset and stay big next offseason. Judge $43 Bogaerts $27 Senga $17 You’d probably have to trade for a bullpen arm. If John Henry told you you had to make a big splash this off-season how are you spending $90 million dollars?
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A Devers extension likely will have some type of opt-out, meaning it will guarantee he's here for another 2-3 years but then after that he will be in the same boat Bogaerts is in this year. I'm ok with that, I'd rather take Devers in his 20's than his 30's.
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I think there's a time and a place for everything. Lets say Devers ends up walking after next year but the Sox make a WS run.....was it worth it holding onto him? I'm all for trading players away for something before you lose them for next to nothing, but sometimes it's worth just having one more season of an elite player in his prime.
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If you look at the market for rentals at the deadline, it's not what it once was. Teams don't want to pony up for 1/2 a year of control. The teams that got PAID were the ones who traded away guys with the extra year of team control. The chance to make the playoffs is worth a boatload more than what two months of Bogey would have returned.
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That might be insanely premature. Bogaerts put up a 34 WAR his first 10 years in the majors, he will have to replicate that production for another 10 years to be considered a contender for the HOF. Can he do that late into his 30's?
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People forget how often these big contracts go bad on you. The tigers paid miggy a boatload of money, but after an 8 year 240 million dollar extension he turned into a sub .800 OPS guy who was hurt half the time. Albert Pujols was good in LA but he put up a decade of sub-.800 OPS after being paid for being a perennial MVP candidate. 1/2 the reason this team is in trouble is because they signed the wrong guys. I'm not saying we shouldn't sign Bogey, but this team could be forgiven for letting Bogey walk if the money gets outrageous if they end up extending Devers.
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They were counting on a clean bill of health the second half to make a run. To be fair it worked in 2021…well they fell two games short of a World Series, but that was their plan.
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Bogey wasn’t going to negotiate though, he already cut a deal once he wasn’t going to do it again. What I want to know is what his demands where, because that’s likely what the Sox would have had to offer to stop him from opting out. If that number is $250/8 are you still upset the Sox didn’t sign him for that? Regardless, for both opinions, it would be useful to know.
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I think this is right, but probably in reverse of what red said. He’s not off, but I think it’s on Bloom to negotiate a deal, but with so much money involved he has to go back to John Henry, with that said he probably has an ideal or a window of how high he can go and if negotiations go beyond those figures he has to go up through ownership
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Exactly, whether or not the Sox are right will be determined by what he signs for. If he gets paid somewhere around $200 or less, the Sox played the market correctly; if it’s for another team then it’s just because the Sox didn’t want to sign him for that still. If Bogey ends up signing somewhere else for $230 or above then they over played their hand