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  1. I thought they issued some statement on policy that situations will be handled under the law in which the contract was signed. Song isn't getting out of his military service.
  2. Song won’t be able to play, he will still be on the military list. His waiver is likely going to be denied with current legislation. Ward makes no sense, why not protect him and never even trade for Hoy?
  3. Better than all three. Aside from Ward, the other two guys are whatever. Song probably retires.
  4. Hosmer had a no trade clause. If no one good wanted him why would he agree to be traded just anywhere? Better to be DFAd and become a free agent. It’s whatever, Hosmer wasn’t moving the needle.
  5. I don't think they trade him, they work out an extension or continue to negotiate but he is your 2023 3B
  6. IDK, Bloom seems to have a better track record at drafting than he does trading. I'd rather go for it, try to work out and extension with Devers along the way. But I want him starting 3B in 2023 no matter what.
  7. If you're locking guys up early and buying out their arb years and getting their free agency year into their early/mid 30's you're coming out on top. If they did Bogey (longer) Betts, Benintendi and JBJ years ago they'd be 3/4 right now. I'm imagining them locking up their 2018 core as early as 2015/2016. In that scenario, the amount of money you save on Betts/Bogaerts pays for JBJ 5 times over. You probably come out even and a little ahead on Benintendi. So I'd rather pay a little bit more and have these contracts without any opt-outs. But, on the other hand, I'd take a deal with an opt-out in-out over no deal with Devers. At this point, that may be the only way to get Devers to sign an extension.
  8. While this is generally true, I'm sure there's some instances where a team benefits from having a player for a few extra years in his prime but then someone else pays for his 30's.
  9. I’m not saying it does whole heartedly but once you start buying those years up you have to take into account the potential value the player is leaving on the table.
  10. Albies is a good comp, maybe I’m overshooting it a bit. But on the other hand, I’m also talking about buying out more free agent years. Otherwise you’re left with another situation where a guy like Bogaerts walks when he’s 30.
  11. No but take a time machine back to 2016. JBJ looked like a perennial GG centerfielder who would give you over .800 ops and he hit 26 bombs that year too. That was the player he looked like he was growing into. What does that guy get on the market?
  12. Absolutely. But if you’re going that route it can’t just be one guy. That’s why I use JBJ as an example. Look at the talent Atlanta locked up.
  13. I was thinking 100/8 He put up a 5.8 WAR that season, you’d be buying up 3 arb years that we’re looking pretty costly.
  14. Exactly, add in what one possible addition (such as Kluber might do). Thing is, I think all of these things are perfectly plausible, but all of them happening seems improbable. If all those things happened and Sale looks like Ace Chris Sale then it’s a 90+ win team. How often does everything break right?
  15. Absolutely, but he’d be ok the books right now for another 2-4 years for probably something around 10-15 per.
  16. I think this team is better, and a lot of that will show up in guys already on the roster having better seasons. But this is an 85 win team, maybe 89 if everything breaks right. With enough injuries and bad luck, they could easily finish last again.
  17. How so? I understand the years are different. But any deal done with 4 or more years of team control left should give the team a hefty discount for a star player. Of note, I was thinking of 2016 JBJ.
  18. My only problem with setting value on a player and holding your ground is you may be missing out. Someone made a similar argument on another board not too long ago. Let’s say their valuation models are good. That’s great! But if you’re the most rational guy in the room every time, you will probably lose the bidding every time. The most irrational guy will win almost every time. I’m pro nerd, but in this instance the nerd becomes too smart for his own good. Rather, they should think about WHO is worth breaking the model for? If the sign a guy to be an 7 WAR player and he’s only a 5 WAR player you still have a better player at said position than if you pay a guy for 3 WAR and he gives you 3.1 War. I get not wanting a $300 million dollar payroll seemingly into perpetuity, but you gotta roll the dice on someone. They have not, and if they fail in 2023 they need to face that harsh reality.
  19. Locking up guys early has risk too. Here’s some food for thought, would have looked amazing to have locked up JBJ for 8+ seasons after 2016. Still, you win some and you lose some, you’d have made up for that through paying less for guys like Bogaerts/Devers. I’d be comfortable rolling the dice on guys like Bello/Casas. If the feeling is two way, and you can wait a season on those guys too
  20. Brilliant! Bloom will get the best bargains.
  21. People are making assumptions based on this abysmal offseason. I can't really blame them at this point. But yeah, I don't think he's your starting 3B.
  22. My point exactly, none of those guys are very inspiring. Maybe Blaze, who likely moves to 1st and will have to hit. It's not like SS where you have Mayer, heck you have Rafaella there too (although he belongs in CF)
  23. I wonder if there's a market for Eovaldi or not? If there is not, then the Sox waiting to sign him is probably working out in their favor. Honestly, I'd rather take the pick and get someone like Kluber. It's not like we are trying to compete next year and Kluber could easily be better if Eovaldi isn't healthy.
  24. If we don't sign a starting pitcher I don't think it would be because Bloom lied about wanting to get a starting pitcher. What I will believe is he was unable to attain any pitcher because he sets a value on what someone is worth and they're uncomfortable going above that threshold. If that strategy is the reason they keep on missing out on guys they wanted (and not because their interest was hyped by agents and media) then they need to seriously re-evaluate their evaluation process. You can look at the sum of every addition in a vacuum and be happy with the value you are getting but if the sum of all the parts is a team that can not compete then they have failed.
  25. Yeah, I don't know. The thing is who do they at 3B coming down the pipe? At least at SS they have Mayer who should be ready in a few years. But there's no real 3B prospect that is either very good and inspiring OR close to the bigs. If they had a guy like that maybe Turn makes sense as a stopgap there. But if they trade Devers this offseason and place Turner at third then.....that will be very interesting. Does this mean Dalbec or Arroyo is going to DH? or hey, maybe Dalbec is their 3B? As lackluster as this team has been this offseason, I still can't believe they'd trade Devers and plan on plugging Turner at 3B for 2 years. If they do, I'll drive the extra 1:45 and go to a SeaDogs game.
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