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That's fine, but if you're trading for a guy that fits that profile, elite pitcher with 3+ years of control then teams are going to ask for both Roman Anthony and Marcelo Mayer+++ more. In todays world, theres' also a higher chance that guy gets injured. At this point, especially with how well the pitching is starting to turn in the organization, I'd start to just invest more in our own pitching and sign a free agent to fill in the gaps.

This is the moment during the season where the Red Sox start to lose, if they can stay hot......especially against good teams. That's a statement.

Well let me just clarify that this is under the assumption that the team could consider them ready this year.

There's a lot of moving variables, It's more probably than not we see any one of these guys next year rather than this year. Development aside, a lot depends on the big league club. Here we stand, 2.5 games out of the playoffs. It feels like everytime they get some momentum they fall off, and everytime the start to lose it they string together a few wins. If they get healthy, perform, and are in the playoff hunt. There's not much need to rush Teel with the Wong/McGuire duo, or Anthony with Duran/Rafaela/Abreu, or Mayer with Rafaela, Hamilton, Valdez on the roster. But if anyone one of those guys is mashing in AAA come late July or early august and the Sox think they're ready or close to it and someone like Wong/Rafaela go down could I see one of those guys being called upon to come up if the team thinks they may be ready to contribute? Absolutely, and I still think one of them may even get a cup of coffee this year.

Well that's the reality you gotta face with many big leaguers. Most people don't bust in and immediately hit, many do, you just don't always know. Look at Duran, look at Pedey, although to be fair Pedey hit really well relatively quickly in the large scheme of things a down month or two isn't a lot. Look at even Bogey who hit OK then had a sophmore slump, Mookie was instantenously good. Some guys come up and are good relatively quickly and then fall off a cliff (Andrew Benintendi. The thing is, none of us really know, nor do we have the expertise to say when these kids are ready. But they certainly shouldn't ever be held back if they're ready to take the next step either. They're all hitting well and reaching the 250 PA threshold. I suspsect all 3 will be promoted to AAA this year and at least one of them is going to break onto the MLB roster, perhaps it's just a cup of coffee, perhaps more.

Yeah, welcome to the bigs, most players break into the bigs and aren't instantaneously all stars. That doesn't disprove, or prove my point either way. How many first round catchers debuted in the big leagues when they were 24 or older?????

Never said it wasn't. But now that's on my mind here are some other first round college catchers and how old they were when they broke into the Majors Buster Posey 22 Mike Zunino 22 Yasmani Grandal 23 Jason Castro 23 Matt Wieters 23 Teel will be 23 before next season starts. Suggesting he may be close to MLB level is not analogous with he is ready, and it's certainly not crazy to suggest he may be close to ready.

All good points, and you'er probably right, I'm probably pushing on Teel but I do disagree that the "despite not being blocked is telling" comment. It's not like they've been in AA for a long time. Take a guy like Mookie Betts as a prime example of someone who absolutely demolised the minors and pushed his way up to the majors. He got 257 PA's before he got promoted from AA, even a guy being rushed or pushing his way up is going to get at least 250 PA's at a level. Teel is at 230, he could easily still be mashing his way up AND afford to be kept in AA for another month. FTR Mayer is at 258 PA's Anthony is at 211 PA's Also the big 3 by OPS by Month Anthony: .638/.868/1.416 Mayer: .820/.845/.891 Teel: .678/1.003/.990 All three are building up towards a promotion, and it can probably wait a month or two before I would question why they're not being moved up yet.

Teel is mashing in AA, probably should be promoted within a month. How long do you think they will keep him at AAA for? He's going to be ready sooner, rather than later.

Grissom is 6 years younger than Dalbec too, and has never K'd like him, they are not the same. Not when it comes to DFA'ing or waiting for a guy to develop.

If he maintined, who says he can maintain that? If he's still hitting crazy good at the end of the year it will be because he starts barreling up the ball and hitting it harder. If he does not, his numbers will take a big step back. Hope to be wrong, but If we were placing bets here I'd be betting on Wongs numbers diving. Still see a bit of a clutch player in him.

I'm not advocating platooning them off of splits, just Teel is mashing. If both are still hitting one can DH some as well. Also, not that it changes my opinion, but I don't necessarily expect Wongs reverse splits to conitnue for his whole career.

I'm not looking to replace Wong, I'm looking to replace McGuire.

A little high? it's like .400 His Hard hit rate is in the 24% percentile Barrel 18% Average exit Velocity is 23% I like Wong, I like Wong alot, but a regression is coming.

I'm not fully ready to judge Breslow based off of one of anything. Especially if it's a prospect trade, it may take a year or two to really get a sense of how he did.

Well he has a career OPS+ of 98 I like Wong, I think he's a keeper, I just don't think he's this good. Ride it as long as you can.

I think it's fair to say they can not. Wong and Refsnyder are literally #1 and #2 on the team in BABIP, probably no one is due for a regression more than them. Refnysder has always hit lefties well, but Wong's batted ball data is horrible, he's probably due for a regerssion more than anyone on this team. Wonder if Teel is in the cards after the trade deadline? not to replace Wong but to platoon him with Wong for a playoff push.

Breslow, BresBlow, Bloom 2.0, the kid from American pie grown up. That's all I got for now.

The Celtics were undefeated in the playoffs when I wore my Brown Jersey, I lost it for game 4 and ya'll saw what happened. Found it and had it back on last night. So... You're welcome.

It’s not just about the closers role, as much as it’s about the bullpen overall. There’s a lot of young talent there, and Jansen is a HOF talent leadership there. Things could get very thin really quick if someone goes down or underperforms in the playoffs. Jansen is the kind of guy trade for if you have playoff ambitions. I got no problem if the Sox decide to be sellers if they make an honest effort to retool this offseason. But if they should or do go for it, you keep Kenley

I literally came in here to say exactly this. I get trading Jansen if you're sellers, but you keep him if you want to make a serious playoff run.

I think a hitter has to be closer to ready than a pitcher to be grabbed and kept. If a team really believes in a guy they might pluck that A/AA starter with a 5.00 ERA but 12K/9 and move him to the bullpen. We also have to remember they will ideally need a spot for Hendricks/Story/Giolito on the 40 man next year too.

Binelas was supposed to be the better prospect in the trade as well

I remember liking the trade at the time. For buying the prospects, but also because I assumed JBJ would be a defensive 4th OF and the Sox were going to buy an outfielder. Mainly Seiya Suzuki, is the guy I thought would be their target. If we buy Suzuki in 2022, we probably don't end up buying Yoshida in 2023. Here's to hoping Yoshida gets healthy and hits a bit, but I don't thin he'll ever play up to his contract.

This is the right place to ramble. This team is pretty much in the same place it's been mid year the last few years. I don't expect the results this year to be much different BUT the road ahead probably looks much rosier this year than it did in 2023, 2022. Pitching is good, guys who are performing are generally young and locked up. Our farm is the strongest it's been in almost a decade with a lot of those guys close to MLB ready. They are 3 games out of a wild card, I'm not sure you can sell. You don't have to empty the farm and go big, but you can't sell. I wouldn't mind a lateral move here if a guy with multiple years of control becomes available. For example, sell Pivetta and buy Crochet The Sox have a roster crunch coming up, rule 5 is going to be very interesting next year, so they almost need to trade a few guys down on the farm. Deadline Wish list. Starting pitcher - RHH bat - SS/OF/DH high leverage reliever. If you added that to Casas coming back this team could make a run. I don't think they're going to win the world series but they could get into the playoffs, show us they're comitted, and get us excited for 2025.