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Better keep those duck boats hot!!!!

Yup 100% 162 games of highs and lows. Right now this team is trending up, at the very least my hopes are trending that way as well.

Story is out for the year, if you could find a RHB that can play up the middle and is a rental, why shouldn't we consider it?

Obviouslyl I'm focused on adding a RHH middle infielder. After that we almost definitely need some pitching, I know there's some talk of buying and selling at the same time, I'd rather trade Martin than Jansen, but I'd certianly look at add a starter. If this team is playing in October, they could really use another starter.

Brandon Walter/Juan Chicon for Paul DeJong also is an accepted deal. Nick Sogard for Brandon Drury + $2 million cash

BTV Accepts this trade. Dansby Swanson +$20 million for Masataka Yoshida/Nick Yorke

A baseball season is a marathon not a sprint. A month ago everyone would have said we are playing for the 3rd wildcard spot and shoudn't even be concerned with catching the Yankees. Well, if we were to sweep them we'd be only 2.5 games behind them. I think that will be hard, and will be very excited to take 2 out of 3. But this is what it's all about.....chipping away.

Theres' so much that has to happen for that to work. A lot of people view Hamilton as a utility infielder/speedbench bat, Medidroth is a middling prospect with minor league production but serious questions about having the ability to impact the baseball at the MLB level. That's not worthless, but just think if you were getting those two guys in return what you'd be willing to give up? Now, said team has to believe in the upside of those guys, and have an extra 40 man spot available to carry an extra guy who will have to be carried on a 40 man. The odds of those stars aligning are slim. Hypothetically Hamilton + Yorke gets you Tristan Casas. I would never make that trade. Now, if we are talking about a rental, that's a different story, but I wonder if a prospect that offers the flexibility of not needing to be added to the 40 man this offseason as being more valuable to a team. POSSIBLY, again stars must always align. For example. I think Hamilton/Romero might actually be more enticing, yes Romero isn't ranked as high but a team has the luxury of being able to keep him off the 40 man, develop him and see if he can become what comes along with a first round draft pick shine.

A second round pick will always be better than a 4th round pick. However in this particular instance, purely because of chance, it might have worked out in our favor as Campbell is now a top 100 prospect.

It just feels like a lot of money for a bullpen arm, but if the majority of your bullpen is comprised of cost controlled arms then it makes ense to build a bullpen that way. That's sort of exactly the way the Sox have it right now.

So really.........The Red Sox were just getting a leg up on everyone else with all the injuries the last few years.

I looked it up, it's shoulder injuries for starting pitchers. Elbows seem to be equal opportunity blow outs. Or at least according to some sources, admittedly I haven't read them myself.

I remember posters in here arguing about pitchers being injured more as starters. I also remember shortly after listening to a soxprospects.com podcast where they were talking about a study into this. I should probably look this up to verify that I'm not mixing it up and it's the other way around but I believe there's no relationship between starting and relieving for elbow injuries BUT starting pitchers tend to sustain a much greater number of shoulder injuries than relief pitchers. I think Tanners low pitch counts will allow him to pitch deeper in the season BUT he's at his career high right now. You can't just shake that off, and if this team does make it into the playoffs that will be even more stress on his elbow. Which seemingly is fine.....but we should hope it stays that way. I don't know how you can even think about doing this from a roster construction point of view, but from a physiological point of view, it almost makes sense to shut down every pitcher for 2 weeks in the middle of every season. You won't see that, but in a hypothetical alternate universe I bet that reduces a lot of elbow injuries.

we were all duped in our own ways.

It's my scarlet letter, I must wear it as a constant reminder. Never again.

Yeah, I have you read my quoted tagline? I could delete it, but I strive for authenticity damnit!!!!

Same, I always wanted the Sox to go out and get an ace and if Sale was healthy then BOOM you gotta playoff caliber 1-2 punch. I also didn't hate the Giolito signing, it sucks that he got injured but I also assumed (foolishly in hindsight) the Sox were going to go out and sign another ACE. The pitching has certianly been much better than anticipated this year but another ace at the top with Houck would be playoff worthy, assuming Houck doesn't slow down. Giving his innings that does make one wonder but one interesting fact is despite Tanners innings total he's doing it throwing less pitches. If you can get threw 7 innings throwing 10-15 pitches less, that's going to create a lot less stress on the arm.

Agreed, which in hindsight no one should have been surprised. The Kluber signing was a nice reasonable risk to take if building the back of your rotation, but the Sox seemingly were banking on him returning to Cy-Young form. Living on a prayer hasn't worked the last 4 years.

I was hopeful for Chris Sale, and still thought he could be good when healthy, but I'll admit I lost faith in his ability to stay healthy. He hadn't had a full clean bill of health in 4.5 years and was coming into his 35 season this year. It's not too unreasonable to assume the guy who is 35 and hasn't really been healthy during his enitre 30's can't come back and pitch like he did in his 20's. To date this year......he is proving us wrong. What he is doing, isn't all too different than hypothetically Corey Kluber coming in during the 2023 season and pitching very well for us. Albeit he was 37 not 35 but some some food for thought.

Not discrediting what you read, but if someone is performing surgery that a kid doesn't require they should be losing their medical license and should be sued for malpractice. From my understanding, the surgery itself doesn't make someone strogner and add velocity but rather the extensive training they undertake to recover from the surgery often adds velocity to a lot of guys.

With what some would describe as the "deepest farm system in baseball" you would think we could swing a few trades for rentals that strengthen the 2014 team without mortgaging the future at all.

Fangraphs released their top 47 Sox prospects. An excerpt from the article. "This is perhaps the deepest system in all of baseball, and one of the best, right up there with the Dodgers, Cubs and Orioles in terms of the number of 40+ FV or better prospects." Boston Red Sox Top 47 Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball

So Trevor Story is the next Chris Sale right? So lets hope we keep him and he comes back healthy next year and plays like it's 2019

I'm not sure if the percentage of ownership matters, Lebron has a minority stake. I saw a meme yesterday pertaining to John Henry buying the Celtics. Tatum in a Lakers Jersey and Brown in a Hawks Jersey the next day. I do get nervous about the timing and who may buy them. With Tatums new deal in 2025/2026 the Celtics will have a tax bill over 200 million. If someone cheap buys this team and they have even a slight drop off next season then the wrong owner could be inclined to start selling off assets to reduce that tax hit.

Gio pitched almost 5 times the amount of innings as Sale the last few years. If his problems were more mental than physical, heck even if they were physical the staff may have seen a mechanical adjustment needed to be made to get him right. I can see their mindset for making the trade. It just looks really bad now that Sale is good and Gio is hurt. If Gio was healthy and pitching like crap, I'd have a much easier time bashing the trade.