Nick

So you just blow off your manager's request to get a right handed batting infielder depth?

Let's not make this complicated...John F mentioned last week he'd like to have right handed bat for infield. DD said alright John. Nothing more, nothing less. He simply adds depth and reinforcement for Shaw, especially vs tough left handlers. It's a good move.

Price was definitely right....less than $3m...he will fit right in with this bunch....

He hit 38 home runs one season.....Mr Hill, meet Mr Greenmonster....

I meant Shaw injures Sox from left side......

Or just maybe Sox needs upgrade over Hernandez with Shaw's injury.

Mid Season Baseball Prospects Rankings-top 50 2 Moncada 11 Benintendi 19 Devers 24 Espinoza (former Sox Margot checks in at 16) Yankees have two prospects #25 Aron Judge OF and #29 Jorge Mateo SS Tampa has Brent Honeywell RHP at #44. Baltimore and Toronto has none. Colorado has 3 in top 24. It would be hard to give up any of these kids.....

What's the down side of giving Benintendi a shot? Position players are much different than pitchers. You don't think Benintendi can't survive a say 1 week slump in the majors? He'll be damaged good forever? He'll have a mental set back of couple of years? Give me a freaking break. What he breaks out just as Shaw and Leon have? The point is he CAN play defense. Him going 0-4 is not detrimental to the team unlike a starting pitcher melting down. If Benintendi looks over matched at the plate, just send him down. Do you honestly think his mental fortitude is that weak? Wow....

What happens if Shaw is out for extended period? Who comes up? See any scenario of Benintendi getting a call? Holt plays 3rd, Hernandez a backup. Brentz and Benintendi platoon in LF? Can Benintendi do any worse than some of the pitchers we've trotted out? Benintendi won't lose a game by himself. Yet this board is okay with continuous unsuccessful tryouts for #4 and #5 spots?

Would Miami give up Fernandez and Conley for all of above?

good series win ......

Here comes walk machine....

11-6.......this is why we stole 3B with less than one out with Sox leading 9-1 back in 3rd or 4th inning. Running up the score? Hell no, we just don't trust our pitchers.....this is 3rd straight shaky outing by Wright....

No. Only difference is our lineup is pretty well set for several years now that we've held onto Xander, Betts and Bradley.....What if we're able to get a #1 and #3 type pitchers for above named players to go along with Price, Porcello and Wright? Obviously it's extreme but you have to make choices.....do we want a team that's fun to watch but can't win the big one because we have no pitching? We have 6 all stars and Texas has 2, But can we win without making changes? Mortgaging our future would be to trade Betts/Bradley/Xander....that's not what i'm proposing. C Vazquez/Leon 1B Hanley 2B Pedey 3B Shaw SS Xander LF Holt CF Bradley RF Betts DH FA Is this good enough offense to win?

IN THEORY, assuming we can sign a power bat to DH next year, hell we can trade away every prospects, no? What pitcher(s) can we get for Moncada, Benintendi, Espinoza, Devers and Swihart?

can we bank couple of these runs for next game?

As Moon will tell you, DD has a history of overpaying.....lol....jk Moon. That subject is CLOSED (I bet the 4 guys we traded could have done just as well last night)

Obviously I think it's matter of asking price (duh).....Difficult task is for Sox to have a clear understanding and planning as to what they want the team to look like for next 5 years. They need to flush out duplicity in the system in order to execute any trade. Is it Swihart? Are they ready to move away from him? Have they given up on him as a catcher? If that's the case then as Moon has often stated his trade value is much higher than what he can do for Sox as an outfielder especially in light of progress Benintendi is making? Do you offer Espinoza knowing that pitching prospects are often crap shoot? What if he's another Owens in making? Different skill sets but same results? Does pending signing of our #1 draft pick come into play? If we can sign a power bat as a DH, then we're stuck with Hanley at 1B for three more years (his 5th year vests based on plate appearance for 2017-2018 seasons). Or do we live him at DH with the thought of relocating Shaw at 1B while Sam Travis heals? Does the ultimate lineup look like Benintendi in LF, Moncada at 3B, Shaw at 1B and Hanley DH? Or Benintendi becomes expendable with the thought that Moncad's best position is LF? If we do get Hill, does the qualifying offer good enough for him to return to Sox in 2017? Or will it necessitate 2 yrs and $20M+? We do have $13M coming off the books for Bucholtz. What can we get if we packaged Benintendi, Espinoza and Swihart? That leaves us with Moncada in left, Shaw at 3B, Hanley at 1B and add a power bat at DH. Hell we haven't even discussed Devers.

Dave is the Managing Editor of FanGraphs....... the gist of his article is that Sox will get more bang for bucks (improving the team) by acquiring the catcher from Milwaukee (and probably cheaper) than acquiring a pitcher most likely available at trade deadline. ......I kind of agree with that sentiment.

So your evaluation is superior to the random writer on Fangraphs?

"Back in May, when looking for landing spots for Ryan Braun, I noted that perhaps there was room for the Red Sox to make a big trade with the Brewers, bringing in Milwaukee’s slugging left fielder, but also acquiring catcher Jonathan Lucroy in the deal as well. The idea of the team bringing in Braun looks less necessary now that Andrew Benintendi is crushing Double-A pitching and is looking big league ready; Steamer already projects him for a 109 wRC+ if called up right now, and so the team is probably better served just calling him up to be this year’s Michael Conforto rather than bringing in a veteran to block his path".............but everyone here thinks Sox should hold off on bringing up Benintendi......it's obvious infielders need a break, Holt can provide valuable depth there.

Based on Shaw's struggle against left handers, do we need to platoon him? Is this why JF is looking for right handed utility infielder?

It's better to know NOW than wait......he's the last one standing to try out. What does it hurt?

Typical Sox......run up hits and runs unnecessarily yesterday but can't get to the starting pitcher tonight..... but hey, we are sending 6 All Stars....

Anyone here pinch hit for Shaw vs lefty? Are we trying to build up his confidence? We had Hanigan on the bench....oops.