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I’ll throw 2 other theories. High school pitchers throw as hard as possible because radar gun readings over 95 mph translate into scholarships and signing bonuses. No one needs to throw 95-100 mph to get high school hitters out, but players do, often with negative results sooner or later. My prime example is Lucas Giolito, who had TJ prior to being drafted. Also, Canadian pitchers seem to have a very high rate of injury. I’ve heard theories this is due to a shortened season in parts of Canada due to weather. And they’re not as prepared for dedicated baseball lives. Certainly our Paxton fits this, although the Sox other Canuck(Pivetta) does not. Others like Rich Harden and Adam Loewen absolutely do. But Paul Quantrill not so much. So it remains a plausible theory at best…
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But my original point was - we don’t know today if players can pitch that many innings, and maybe teams just prefer they not do so for reasons related to money and strategy. Also, those players in the 40s did face a smaller talent pool…
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As for TJ surgery, it didn’t exist until 1974, and didn’t achieve decent success rates until the 2000s. It wasn’t even 85% successful until 2009! Before 1974, if you tore that ligament, you retired. So, no Disabled List…
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I think - but no numbers to back it up - a lot more pitchers throw sliders now. I’ve heard that pitch was fairly uncommon until the 1950s and was instrumental in increasing the amount of switch hitters in the league…
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Well you don’t see many physiques like Lolich or Rick Reuscel or Pete Vukovich anymore…
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First of all, we’re talking about pitchers who throw 200+ innings per year. That total takes Chapman at least 3 years. Yes Chapman was huge. But Billy Wagner threw almost as hard (with his weak arm!) and looked like a casual fan. And Tim Collins threw almost as hard and looked like a casual fan’s son. As for starting pitchers, not many really average 95+. Only 12 pitchers have done so over the past 3 seasons. I’m not sure whether or not that’s really a difference from 40-50 years ago, or
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Two (but maybe not all of the) reasons 1. Teams spend significantly more money on pitchers now and prefer to risk that investment as little as possible. 2. Current MLB strategies employ the use of a larger and more specialized bullpen. I doubt it’s anything physical. If anything a lot of those pitchers who threw all those innings appeared to be in much worse shape…
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No. I don’t think the situations were similar. Piazza had homered off Clemens earlier - I think in that game - and it looked like clear retaliation. Manning just let one get away. But that’s not the point…
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The accusation was that Clemens threw at Piazza. Just because he didn’t hit him the face doesn’t mean he didn’t throw at him…
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Keith Law did call them out for it, but it did sound kind of silly. It’s like saying “You have lots of money, but not enough 20s.”
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I think that’s why they’re being avoided in the farm-building exercise…
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Actually, he did both. Zip ahead to 2:35
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So… no AA meetings or flea markets?
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I’ve heard stories of the beforetomes. Back when posters had to etch their thoughts on to cave walls…
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I don’t think it was a curse that prevented Lavarnway from reaching All Star levels. Unless you think his parents cursed him with mediocrity genes…
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2019 Sale started slow but then hit an elite level run for a while. I’d be ok with that. 2019 Sale is light years ahead of any version of Winckowski or Crawford…
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Better the Devil you know…
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Oh. I thought you had some info. My bad for not checking it out…
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And the Sox need to push him hard to keep that streak going!!
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Well there is the 40 man roster opening.
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Not to mention, maybe Sale himself was saying he’s just not ready yet. I would imagine Cora has been talking to pitchers about when they’re ready to go. And no pitcher has had a longer layoff than Paxton, and his first outing didn’t exactly go well…
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True, but that’s really always been the case. We’ve seen bunt hits go for doubles with the old alignment. I figured teams would just move the SS to one inch left of second base, but the use of the CF in short right has the same effect as the old shift…
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It doesn’t matter what type of vehicle takes him to the mound; just whether not not it’s an ambulance that takes him from it…
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I just said I was against making defensive strategies illegal. This new rule allows for re-positioning outfielders exactly how they had infielders last year. And since teams didn’t position in the shift by accident, and clearly WANTED that defensive alignment, they’re going to do it again. I wouldn’t cite an absence of outfield shifts in spring training games as proof it won’t happen. That it’s happened at all in spring training means teams are thinking about it.
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Teams seem fairly dedicated to this for some reason…
