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Everything posted by notin
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The point of the post was all his new pitchers were not steps down, as was erroneously stated previously…
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I bet you also didn’t check Eovaldi’s home road splits from last year. Fenway : 5.26ERA 1.48WHIP Away: 2.64ERA 1.02WHIP
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Right. Especially if we ignore the age gap. The one that puts Kluber in the “one year deals until they dry up” phase of his career while Eovaldi should still be attracting multiyear offers…
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There is something about this that should raise questions. Why was Eovaldi’s deal so low? We focus on Boston not tipping it for obvious reasons. But there are 28 other teams that didn’t either. Heck his own hometown Astros, who were in on him in 2019 and had just lost a Cy Young winner, stepped aside at that money. Other consistently injured pitchers like Jameson Taillon and Taijuan Walker managed to land 4 year deals. But not one team would go that far for Eovaldi?
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Technically it was a bad word for Greinke. Not sure how in on Greinke the Sox really were..
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700hitter has ripped every move Bloom has made. This is not news…
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You’re trying to force the data to fit the conclusion and it doesn’t work. You can’t use Perez as a Ranger after he left Boston to compare to Hill and call it a step down. Garrett Richard hasn’t pitched anywhere since Boston; why can’t we call AAV move an improvement over him? The bottom line is Bloom replaced Perez (0.6 fWAR) and Richard (0.5 fWAR) with Hill (1.8 fWAR) and Wacha (1.5 fWAR). That’s not a step down. Your premise that it always happens is complete BS. Is Kluber a step down? Certainly looks that way, but quit pretending it was so obvious. Eovaldi threw 109 IP last year and was worth 1.0 fWAR. Kluber threw 164 IP and was worth 3 fWAR. I can see why Kluber was signed, and given that Eovaldi just gave the Sox 400 IP on a 4 year deal, I can see why he wasn’t offered multiple years. If he took the QO, Kluber isn’t here. What do you suppose the over/under is for IP for Eovaldi on this contract?
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No I’m not missing any points. Bloom clearly didn’t want Eovakdi back - and probably Wacha too - because both of them are very risky for multiyear deals. You know, like Chris Sale is showing us. Wacha in particular wasn’t even all that good in recent years when he has pitched. Try revisiting the one year old commentary when he was originally signed. His numbers are on full display alongside the shock. I have no idea whom Bloom wants in the rotation (besides Houck) but it wasn’t anyone on the market this year. And you can only sign the guy you want when he’s available. So rather than committing multiple years to a pitcher he didn’t want (again, probably for the very realistic and history-backed injury risk) for multiple years, Bloom brought in a one year stop gap solution. As fans, we often only look at this year. But GMs can’t do that…
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Did you want him back for multiple years?
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It’s not going to happen, but I appreciate the explanation. It answered my question exactly…
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Drohan, too…
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Eovaldi was available to the entire league. And nobody topped the 2 yr $34mill offer. Think the Yankees should fire Cashman for spending $162mil on Rodon when he could have had Eovaldi and saved almost $130mill?
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I believe many wanted him dealt away at the deadline. Or at least didn’t understand why he wasn’t…
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I wouldn’t argue with that. I have no idea either way…
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The luxury tax exists riley to benefit the small market owners. The larger markets undoubtedly do not like having to repeatedly pay the smaller ones so they can go through the motions of setting up a team…
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What is the answer? And how long will that answer stay the same?
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Step into the digital age!!
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1. Ok and how did that come about. We know he turned down a QO. Beyond that, did the Sox make another offer? 2. Based on Eovaldi’s history, how big should the Sox have gone? 3. Will Eovaldi actually pitch enough to be worth that deal, based on his history? If Eovaldi does miss significant time this year, and possibly next, were the Sox still wrong to let him go?
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Ticket scalpers? Those still exist? I’m talking about stubhub, seatgeeks, and all those other crowd sourced ticket outlets. Those are the folks who ramp up the prices now…
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I doubt he’s happy. The question is - is he patient?
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And if a GM judged Eovaldi to be a high risk for injury and therefore a risky multiyear deal, would you agree or disagree?
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That clinches it - he cares what fans think. Of course that kind of thing really only applies to season ticket holders. Far too many tickets get sold through second party sellers who up the price as they please. The Sox themselves used to run one, but I don’t know if they do any more.
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Yeah their credibility comes in waves, but those waves lately haven’t had much Devers Love…
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Maybe not, but that doesn’t mean he want to shell out a billion dollars every four years. Did he or did he not recently comment about ball players being expensive?
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Have you read the game threads lately?
