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Everything posted by notin
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I don’t think anyone is arguing they are worth the money, but rather what they will get…
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Lance Lynn is off the market. Back to St. Louis…
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And yet you incessantly complain about CBOs who buck the system to avoid paying these huge contracts…
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No one is even saying Montgomery is a great pitcher. He’s a (I hate this undefined terminology) #2 pitcher. But nowadays, the #2 guy does often command a $100mill contract…
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You clearly didn’t…
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And if they could get Trout for $30mill over 3, everyone would love it as well. But they can’t. Montgomery is going to top $100mill. It’s just a question of who is paying.
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Montgomery was only compared to them in terms of frequent team changes, which seems to be one of only two things you hold against him. This was very evident from the context of both statements…
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Atlanta just signed Reynaldo Lopez for $30mill over 3 years. Lopez pitched for 3 teams last year alone. That pushes him past “journeyman” straight into “slut”…
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Doesn’t matter what any of us think. He’s getting $100mill from someone…
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Playing on 3 teams in two years is pretty common. If Team A trades an option year pitcher at the deadline to Team B, something that happens every year - and that pitcher signs with Team C after the season, there you go. Now we see more pitchers dealt at the deadline with 1.5 seasons left, meaning they could be dealt at consecutive deadlines if the first acquiring team is floundering the next year…
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Exactly. Team plus pitcher. Not just pitcher. Bartolo Colon won the 2005 Cy Young over Johan Santana, despite Santana clearly out-pitching in every conceivable way. But Colon pitched on a good team - the AL runner up Angels - and consequently had more wins. And wins was the only category Colon beat Santana in. Did it make him a better pitcher?
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Montgomery also spent most of this season pitching on a last place team. That alone can impact win totals over a 3 year stretch…
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I do like Gray over Montgomery, but I think that’s just a personal preference. I can see arguments the other way as well…
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He probably wasn’t looking at that type payday then. To me, he’s a Plan B option if you can’t get Snell, Yamamoto, or Gray…
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All true. The thing is, the early buzz on Montgomery is he might be paid closer to ace money. ..
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Hernandez and deGrom had good numbers all around. If W-L record is such a tell-all, do you think Wade Miley is a better pitcher than Montgomery?
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$100mill would be fine. But I don’t think you will get Montgomery for that price…
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His W-L record didn’t bother me; it’sa bad way to evaluate pitchers. That he’s been on 3 teams in 3 years doesn’t and shouldn’t. You could say the same thing about Schrerzer. (Oh wait, Scherzer has been on FOUR teams in the last three years. AVOID THAT HALL OF FAMER!!) Montgomery is a good pitcher who stands to get overpaid due solely to his postseason starts (according to the talking heads at MLB Network). Not sure that’s a good way to evaluate a pitcher..
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No one said every team did it on every player at every opportunity. Tell you what - name the ethical question mark Bloom acquired at a discount first and we’ll start from there…
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Every team in the league does that…
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Montgomery is the hot name for an overpay after his postseason run. Nola’s deal was pretty reasonable…
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Yeah but the Mets aren’t really a NY team. I mean, they play games there and use the name. But, like their rhyming counterparts the Jets and Nets (and the poorly named Islanders), no one cares about them unless they force the issue…
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Because one pitcher went back to his old team? Didn’t take much to deflate this room…
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
notin replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
No. But it’s not DD’s choice. But this deal is a pretty good price for the 30yo Nola. Not surprised he stayed in Philly, and he wasn’t as expensive as many expected… -
Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
notin replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
It’s a conditional/hypothetical statement. No one knows what went down…
