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Everything posted by notin
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Is that really a historic collapse? That’s two bad series. That type thing literally happens every year to some team…
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That is because every time the team plays well, you go into hiding to deliberately avoid positive talk about them…
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And if you give a really big Contract to Player A, it can and often does hamper your ability to give an even bigger contract to Player B. And giving out both often means saying goodbye to Player C…
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They had an unbelievable first half, but it’s only a collapse if you actually anticipated 112 wins.
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Burnes is younger and has much less wear on his arm than Nola. Obviously risk depends on the human, but it does mitigate it somewhat.
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More blown saves is going to be a trend, considering it’s not indicative of any sort of ninth inning failure. (Also a blown save isn’t necessarily a loss. What was the Sox record in those games?) We’ve seen pitchers get credited with blown saves as early as the fifth inning. In this day of reduced starter workload, 8 man bullpens, and the opener strategy, the blown save compared to previous years is a useless stat. Might as well compare DH numbers on NL teams from this year to those from 20 years ago…
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The 1978 “collapse” is the most overblown story in the history of Boston sports. That team won 99 games, fifth most in franchise history and second most since 1946, played at a .525 clip while “collapsing” and were the team that actually had to come back to force the 163rd game. The Yankees just played an unbelievable second half that year, much like Boston did for the first half…
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Really? Mine would be “why did you avoid getting pitching at the last two trade deadlines when the Sox were clearly still in the hunt for the postseason?”
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I take initial offer and do it right now!! “What? $45,000? Sounds good but I can’t do any GMing between 9 and 5!!” And let me tell you folks, after 4 years of me, you’ll be begging for Bloom back!
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Didn’t Henry himself take shots at Nomar after that trade?
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And he never did that, going over the first year and under the last two. Hopefully they didn’t expect 85 wins in 2020…
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He bought a team that hasn’t won in 80 years. I’m sure the notion entered his mind…
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The Sox under Henry also have a long history of taking a shots at those they dismiss…
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Or his orders changed over time. Not really fair to give the guy a bad grade off for the first 3 years, if, for example, farm and payroll were his top priority
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So why did they keep him around for four years?
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It’s not like we’re know what his marching orders were. Was he hired to win or to rebuild the farm and cut payroll?
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Oh it won’t be reasonable. But it might be more reasonable than Nola or Snell, since the Sox have a full year of exclusive negotiations and tend to throw around bigger numbers than Milwaukee. Plus he doesn’t have the wear and tear on his arm Nola and Snell have, so 6 or 7 years there might carry a little less risk (which becomes meaningless on the just ACL tear). You still looking at 6/$180 for the extension at a minimum. But I bet both Nola and Snell to that…
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They might. Then it gets a bit dicey. One thing we have learned is that a player making over $20mill (which Burnes might get) with only one year of control left doesn’t draw as much trade interest as you think they will. See Betts, Mookie. And this off-season, we should see it with Soto, Juan…
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Thinking the real Sox best trade target is Corban Burnes. Burnes is headed into his final arb year with Milwaukee and reportedly past negotiations have not gone well, with the former Cy Young winner somehow only getting $10mill. Burnes has one year of control left and is trying to prove himself out of Milwaukee’s range. BTV has Burnes’ surplus value at $30.5mill, but it will definitely go down, as he will have half of a season less control and very likely a higher salary for his last year. I expect something in the $15-20mill range for BTV. From a Sox prospect perspective, that puts Nick Yorke, Paxton Crawford (No!) and even (with a little help) Jarren Duran in play. Of course what Milwaukee wants is another matter…
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Seiya Suzuki is pissed at you right now…
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No Sonny Gray? Not liking Nola as an option. It’ll take a 7-8 year deal and he will break down in year two. If the Sox want a high mileage arm, try the trade market first. Some of the pitchers are still on the right side of 30…
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Well, they all do it eventually thanks to the laws of thermodynamics...
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Moderately-priced mediocrity?
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But a lot of his bad moves were far from catastrophic. JBJ didn’t work out but also didn’t last a full season. And the payment the next year didn’t impact the team since they were well under the tax threshold. Now how many years were impacted by Price and Sale? The two have combined for nearly $160 starting in 2020 and have kicked in less than 200 IP in that time. Some of this Nola/Snell/Yamamoto talk looks like attempting to repeat these mistakes…
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They could get by with a sufficient volume of dawgs. There was too much “bullpen” day built in from the start…
