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At least that’s something. Of course Miller has some advantages Houck doesn’t have - larger ballpark, better defense, better bullpen, weaker division. And yet his performance overall is maybe comparable on some metrics…
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Or signed him instead of Giolito. But Flaherty isn’t much of a workhorse…
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Then tell me how they are more successful than Houck, and not about their stuff. They’re beyond that point…
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Fair point. By ERA, Severino is basically a league average pitcher. ERA+ is 105, so slightly better. But there’s nothing wrong with league average (unless you pay for much, much better)…
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And you left out Manaea. Problem is the success rate with these type of signings is not optimal, and there were quite a few flops this past off-season in this range, like Giolito, Stroman, Montas, Lynn, Gibson, Severino, and Maeda…
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I do agree with all of this. Except whether or not Crochet is overhyped, but that’s a trivial point. (And the Burnes assessment, but that is immaterial since zero chance the Sox get beyond the “rumored suitor” phase.) A deep bullpen is ideal, rather than one built around a closer/set up duo. The Sox do have numerous pitchers returning to the pen. Along with the signed absentees Liam Hendriks and Michael Fulmer, there is Winckowski, Slaten, Bernardino, Booser, Kelly and Whitlock. Of those last 6, the most likely locks are Winckowski, Slaten and Whitlock, with Bernardino on the fringes. If that’s the case, the Sox have two immediate openings on the MLB roster. This is the place to spend. Tanner Scott would be nice. Or AJ Minter. The trade market is likely to have Kyle Finnegan. There are options to bulk up the pen. I hope they still look into Crochet. Or maybe a Seattle starter…
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Mayer?
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And Fitts recalled. Also, Shugart headed back to Worcester…
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I haven’t given much board time to RHH needs, but they are real. So some thought: 1. Bring back O’Neill for RF. Assuming he doesn’t want years. The Sox need a guy on short years to hold the position for Anthony. 2. Story and Grissom both return. While likely to hit better vs LHP than Hamilton, not sure this is anything more than a minimal upgrade. 3. I like Yoshida, but an exchange with Larry made me notice a realistic Yoshida trade would send him and Hamilton to Seattle for Mitch Garver. Garver has been awful this year, but he also entered the season with terrible numbers in Seattle. Can he bounce back? If not , unlike Yoshida, he has only one year left.
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No. I said the MLB landscape is littered with stuff guys blah blah. Basically, don’t tell me about stuff. Tell me why Miller is better than Houck. He penciled Miller into the 2 slot ahead of Houck…
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I have no clue about the budget, so I anticipate minimal change. I also suspect some of the groundwork for 2025i !has already been done - namely Hendriks, Fulmer, Priester. Not sure why you disagree with this. As I said, it’s already been done. i hope they attack the top of the rotation. As I expect one major SP to be added at most, I’d prefer Skubal, Freddy Peralta, or Garret Crochet (in that order). While the availability of all three has been rumored or could happen due to the contract, it seems to me only Crochet is going to be available. I don’t think Burnes or Fried are on the radar, or ever will be. id like to see better than Crochet, whom the Sox pounded last night. But who else will be available?
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Also all I have said about Hendriks and Fulmer is they’re both already signed. The point being “don’t expect the Sox to overspend on the bullpen.” I’ve yet to say anything about the performance of either. Also I’m 99% sure Hendriks gets first crack at the 2025 closer role, I’ll go out on that limb…
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The only support for him being better than than was given was about his “superior stuff.” That’s not real support…
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It’s one year. Burnes, like any pitcher, can have a good or bad season. The real point is Crawford is better than many think. He’s not a reliever and not a depth piece. He’s an MLB-caliber starting pitcher who probably needs to build up some stamina. His last few starts have been better (second wind?), but his season overall has been complete overshadowed by his post-ASB struggles. And barring an unforeseen trade or injury, he will be in the Sox rotation next year. By which I mean Boston, not Worcester.
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Not what I asked. I asked why he was better than Houck..
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No, I suggested Priester as a stand-in for Giolito., who I doubt is recovered until July/August. Crawford has the same bWAR as Corbin Burnes. Why not count on him? Would you count on Burnes? I can find dozens of posts denigrating Houck and Crawford while wishing for Burnes and/ or Fried. But as of today, Houck and Crawford (total 5.5) are outperforming Burnes and Fried (5.1) on bWAR… Ive said it before. If we had Sale, we’d be in the postseason. Doubtful another Sale is available, but I’ve been posting lately about the best pitchers rumored to be available, or seeing whose contracts are coming up and therefore might be…
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Yeah realism!! I wonder what it will take for folks to notice Houck (3.3) actually has more bWAR than Fried (2.6) and Corbin Burnes (2.2). In fact, Burnes has the same bWAR as Crawford. Our grass as Fenway is greener than we realize, And we need to use that green to extend Houck and Duran…
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“Stuff” Is meaningless unless it can be translated into useful pitching. The MLB landscape is littered with guys with amazing stuff who simply couldn’t pitch…
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Just a guy who knows JH isn’t going to spring for a Dream Pitching Staff, and who doesn’t look at Houck and his 3.3 bWAR as a “#3 at best” while eyeballing some arm from another team with 2-2.5 bWAR as the missing TOR starter we need…
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Casas, Abreu, Yoshida and Hamilton for Miller and Garver? Seems a bit too big to ever happen. Also why is Bryce Miller (2.6 bWAR) a clear #2 while Tanner Houck (3.4 bWAR) is not?
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If they acquired Yoshida, they’d need to play him in the OF unless the Sox took back Mitch Garver. That’s much less fair to Seattle on BTV, but they have no need for both Yoshida and Garver. A deal of Yoshida and Hamilton for Garver works on BTV and gives the Sox the RHH DH they could really use, but doesn’t help their pitching at all. It also requires some faith in Garver bouncing back
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I’d be shocked if Seattle took that trade. Yoshida has a large contract and they give very little money back. Plus he has no position. Hagenman is a 27yo AAA depth arm. Seattle, like every team, didn’t have a shortage of them. Hamilton is a question mark but might have some appeal. Casas is a good centerpiece here. And there’s always the issue of taking on 3 players requiring 40 man roster spots. (Will Hagenman require one next year? If so, that’s 4 spots.) But BTV gives Casas a surplus value of $27.9. Bryce Miller had a surplus of $54.4mill. If you like their model, Casas plus Abreu is better match for Bryce Miller…
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And Crawford is a “depth piece”? He’s second on the team in bWAR and has pitched 160 MLB innings with a 4.08 ERA, and yet somehow isn’t good enough for the rotation? Is Breslow expected to assemble a staff like one normally seen in a 10-man Yahoo Fantasy League?
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If we had kept Sale, we’d be a playoff team this year. That’s one TOR pitcher away…
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Rebuild half the staff? The Sox have 4 SPs and the bulk of the BP returning, plus Hendriks and Fulmer. SPs will include Houck, Bello, Crawford, and Giolito, probably with Priester filling in for him until he’s cleared..
